jsaxton 0 #1 February 9, 2004 Sunset 6way RW, turn and track, throw out. 1,2,3 hey that's not so bad, uh, 5,6,7 oh shit! line twists. Canopy's turning, then it layed on it's nose. FUCK THIS! Tried one hand on each, only got the cutaway out about 3 inches, brought the other hand over to help, got one riser released, gave another shove and cleared the second riser, two hands on the reserve ripcord and rolled over on my belly. 1,2,3 Beautiful white PD reserve :) Followed by freebag down and the main landed about 20 feet away. Thank you Vic Kruse for saving my life. Case of beer for the DZ and a bottle of GOOD Tequila for my rigger. Nowhere near as scary as I thought my first cutaway would be, meby it's because I teach ground school every weekend so I'm current on my emergency procedures. Anyway next day borrow a rig to do a couple of jumps on, just to get back on the horse. First jump I get 5 line twists but I got out of them. Thought I was going to have back to back chops for a second there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #2 February 9, 2004 Body Position? Hmmmm. Just Kidding - Glad you are ok.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #3 February 9, 2004 Do you have riser inserts? When was the last time the 3-rings were dis-assembled and massaged and the cutaway cables were cleaned? Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #4 February 9, 2004 Ah JS!! Sorry to hear that! I woulda freaked out...my mal was left side in a tension knot around the slider whipped me into a spiral...a lot of G's, but didn't 'feel' high speed at all. Time slowed down for me. Serious, I would have had to concentrate hard if I was spun up in line twists...the most I've ever experienced was 1 1/2. (I don't fly those fancy-pants canopies though and never will.) Glad you did the right thing JS and are healthy and happy! -I miss ya in the Pub! ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsaxton 0 #5 February 9, 2004 Yep, late model wings with hard inserts, besides, the twists didn't make it into the risers, they stoped at the top of the risers. The rig is brand new, meby 45 days since assembly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antithesis 0 #6 February 9, 2004 Glad you made it bro. I was a fool the first time that I had a good spinner on my heatwave and fought it all the way to make it a really close call.. Mine was a night jump and I landed fine but Never again I say. I travel the land, Work in the ocean, Play in the sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #7 February 9, 2004 How long since the cables had been cleaned and the 3-rings disassembled and massaged? Edit: Even from the manufacturer, the cutaway cables should be cleaned and coated with Silicone Lubricant (Ace Pure Silicone Libricant works very well). Cutaway forces should never exceed 22 pounds, same as the reserve w/o the seal. Derek Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsaxton 0 #8 February 9, 2004 Brand new rig, meby 45 days since assembly, always packed indoors Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyhi 24 #9 February 9, 2004 QuoteYep, late model wings with hard inserts, besides, the twists didn't make it into the risers, they stoped at the top of the risers. Any idea what made the cutaway so hard, then? Quote(I don't fly those fancy-pants canopies though and never will.) Is that a brand name? Sounds foreign.Shit happens. And it usually happens because of physics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #10 February 9, 2004 Quotethe most I've ever experienced was 1 1/2. (I don't fly those fancy-pants canopies though and never will.) Line twists can happen in old dungaree pants canopies, too. I had ludicrous line twists - pinned my head down - in a spectre 230....while I was not spinning (thank you God), I did have a problem on my hands. Managed to address it before I had to cut (well, I shoulda cut, but that's a different thread...) and landed fairly well. Just be aware that it can happen to you, too.... Good job on the cut, JS! Well done! Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsaxton 0 #11 February 9, 2004 Meby I was pulling some Gs or was just to wimpy on the cutaway pull, this is my first one and I've never pulled handles except on the ground before. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malfunction 0 #12 February 9, 2004 Nice recovery, man. Glad ya came out on the right end of that. When I come back to your area, you owe me a BEER too! I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjhdiver 0 #13 February 9, 2004 QuoteSunset 6way RW, It was a seven way. And you went to the wrong slot, Mr Air-Awareness. BTW, the cutaway force was probably pretty much standard for the type of problem you had. It's your first, so you didn't have much to base it on for comparisson. I've had quite a few, and the difference between cutting away away something like a streamer (relatively easy), and a developed spin on an eliptical is night and day. It only takes one or two revolutions to build up very significant cutaway forces. That's one of the reaons I use an RSL. I know there's debate about that, but that's another thread. I like to have the options to get both hands to the pad if needed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #14 February 9, 2004 Was the main packed with tender lovin' care? That can make a difference. Huggin and a kissin', that's what my PD's been missin! __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsaxton 0 #15 February 9, 2004 That's what I was thinking, just required more force than I was used to exerting when I pull handles on the ground. I'm sure that there were no problems with the rig. I'm totally happy with the rig and would recommend the superior comfort and fit of a Wings harness/container system to anyone! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FIREFLYR 0 #16 February 9, 2004 Hey I didn't see no beer Good lookin' cut away though! it turned in to a nice streamer before you got it all the way off too!"One flew East,and one flew West..............one flew over the cuckoo's nest" "There's absolutely no excuse for the way I'm about to act" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Girlfalldown 0 #17 February 9, 2004 Damn! I always miss the good stuff. Glad you're ok Jeff. -------------- (Do not, I repeat DO NOT, take my posts seriously.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vdschoor 0 #18 February 9, 2004 Did you notice I didn't ask you to pack for me on Sunday? I am glad you're ok.. Iwan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cornholio 0 #19 February 9, 2004 Way to go Jeff on your first! I thought you had other cutaways before this one. It was actually very entertaining on the ground.... " uh-oh, that doesn't look good. cutaway! " " Damn, that looks harsh.... oh good - cutaway and reserve is out. " I saw the whole thing from the ground, and it looked like you handled it pretty good and pretty fast. Butthead: Whoa! Burritos for breakfast! Beavis: Yeah! Yeah! Cool! bellyflier on the dz.com hybrid record jump Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #20 February 9, 2004 QuoteI'm totally happy with the rig and would recommend the superior comfort and fit of a Wings harness/container system to anyone! I bet that does not sound quite as good when you say it as when Gareth does... Good jopb on the chop....I would hate not having you around to taunt in the Pub at night. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityGirl 0 #21 February 10, 2004 Why did you try one hand on each? Is that what you teach your students? Do you think you're cool now? I'm out of the country for one week and I miss all the fun! Since I wasn't there to harrass you in person, I'm making up for it now! Of my eight reserve rides, only one was a one handed cut-away. Lessons learned. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsaxton 0 #22 February 10, 2004 No, you know danm well that's not the way I teach it. Now I know why you use two hands Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chopchop 0 #23 February 11, 2004 What is that on your avatar, Bonnie? and sketchy, congrats on your first. tehehee... Mr. Air-Awareness... LMFAO at Garreth.. chopchop gotta go... Plaything needs a spanking.. Lotsa Pictures Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoysPlayThing 0 #24 February 11, 2004 I heard you threw away your handles... chopchop never threw his away! .... just kidding Sketchy... lol_______________________________________________ My mind is like a parachute...it functions only when open. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityGirl 0 #25 February 11, 2004 QuoteWhat is that on your avatar, Bonnie? and sketchy, congrats on your first. tehehee... Mr. Air-Awareness... LMFAO at Garreth.. Oh. Just me hanging around. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
