AndyMan 7 #26 June 16, 2010 QuoteI don't think that is true. The yellow coating is something different, but Racers have a red teflon coating (with some debate about the possibility of it being able to crack/stay on the cable), isn't that right? Paragear says yes, Teflon is on the yellow cables. Maybe someone can check with Poyntner. http://www.paragear.com/templates/parachutes.asp?group=161&parent=27&level=2 _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #27 June 16, 2010 Quote Paragear says yes, Teflon is on the yellow cables. Maybe someone can check with Poyntner. I dove into Poyntner myself, and it doesn't say. He describes the rings and loop, but not the cable. Poyntner does recommend a light machine grade oil, such as 3-in-1, for cleaning cables. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huge 0 #28 June 16, 2010 QuoteQuote The yellow cables are already coated in teflon, I don't think that is true. The yellow coating is something differentLolon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadoe 0 #29 June 16, 2010 I say save your money and use the natural oil in your skin, simply pull the cables through your palms a few times. Or, sprinkle some cement on your hands before each jump so you can harden up and deal with a hard pull! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doperope 0 #30 June 16, 2010 Although I am still a little hesitant to try it on my rig, fly line dressing would probably work fine. I have been fly fishing for 17 years and I can put my hand on my heart and say that a flyline that has been maintained will far out last one that is not. Simply cleaning and "dressing" the line will make it last longer than you want it to. I also know a guy who swears by rain-x to maintain his line. Now being new to the sport of skydiving, I don't profess to know what is best, but I figure since line dressing is primarily silicone, and leaves no "residue" it sounds like a logical choice. Fire away! lolBad decisions make good stories!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racerman 0 #31 June 17, 2010 Quote The yellow cables are already coated in teflon, I don't think that is true. The yellow coating is something different, but Racers have a red teflon coating (with some debate about the possibility of it being able to crack/stay on the cable), isn't that right?Quote When Parachute Labs first started using the red teflon coated cables there was a problem with the supplier (many years ago)where the coating cracked.The old yellow cables were supposed to be lightly coated with 3in1 oil but that was a long time ago Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fcajump 153 #32 June 22, 2010 Quote I don't find silicon all that hard to find. I know ACE hardware carries it, in aerosol form. http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/ProductDetails.aspx?sku=12293 _Am (unless I misunderstood at the time...) That's the stuff that I've used ever since getting a chance to talk to BB. As a relative newbie, I figure I'll listen to my elder's until I have a good reason to do differently. But that's just me. The only caution he gave me was that (at the time) ACE also sold a Silicone Spray Adhesive in a similar can. Make sure you know what you have in your hand! JWAlways remember that some clouds are harder than others... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JALUV2 0 #33 June 23, 2010 Quote Quote I don't find silicon all that hard to find. I know ACE hardware carries it, in aerosol form. http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/ProductDetails.aspx?sku=12293 _Am (unless I misunderstood at the time...) That's the stuff that I've used ever since getting a chance to talk to BB. As a relative newbie, I figure I'll listen to my elder's until I have a good reason to do differently. But that's just me. The only caution he gave me was that (at the time) ACE also sold a Silicone Spray Adhesive in a similar can. Make sure you know what you have in your hand! JW I saw this exact can at a local ACE HARDWARE and upon reading the ingredients list on the back of the can it states that it has "Acetone" in it and I put it right back on the shelf! No way was I going to purchase anything that has acetone in it and put it anywhere near my rig! I understand it evaporates very quickly but it is in there along with propane, petroleum distillates, napthenic oil, and ethanol. So I will be looking and searching for the food grade silicone, perhaps the SCUBA silicone that some have mentioned will do the trick. Just a heads up! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverkeith 1 #34 June 23, 2010 Quote Quote Quote I don't find silicon all that hard to find. I know ACE hardware carries it, in aerosol form. http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/ProductDetails.aspx?sku=12293 _Am (unless I misunderstood at the time...) That's the stuff that I've used ever since getting a chance to talk to BB. As a relative newbie, I figure I'll listen to my elder's until I have a good reason to do differently. But that's just me. The only caution he gave me was that (at the time) ACE also sold a Silicone Spray Adhesive in a similar can. Make sure you know what you have in your hand! JW I saw this exact can at a local ACE HARDWARE and upon reading the ingredients list on the back of the can it states that it has "Acetone" in it and I put it right back on the shelf! No way was I going to purchase anything that has acetone in it and put it anywhere near my rig! I will be looking and searching for the food grade silicone, perhaps the SCUBA silicone that some have mentioned will do the trick. Just a heads up! Acetone is extremely volatile. Therefore, if you spray it on a rag, and wipe in on the cables, it will have vaporized long before you can even reinstall the cables. Also, acetone doesn't hurt nylon so it's not realy an issue regardless...Blue skies, Keith Medlock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JALUV2 0 #35 June 23, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote I don't find silicon all that hard to find. I know ACE hardware carries it, in aerosol form. http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/ProductDetails.aspx?sku=12293 _Am (unless I misunderstood at the time...) That's the stuff that I've used ever since getting a chance to talk to BB. As a relative newbie, I figure I'll listen to my elder's until I have a good reason to do differently. But that's just me. The only caution he gave me was that (at the time) ACE also sold a Silicone Spray Adhesive in a similar can. Make sure you know what you have in your hand! JW I saw this exact can at a local ACE HARDWARE and upon reading the ingredients list on the back of the can it states that it has "Acetone" in it and I put it right back on the shelf! No way was I going to purchase anything that has acetone in it and put it anywhere near my rig! I will be looking and searching for the food grade silicone, perhaps the SCUBA silicone that some have mentioned will do the trick. Just a heads up! Acetone is extremely volatile. Therefore, if you spray it on a rag, and wipe in on the cables, it will have vaporized long before you can even reinstall the cables. Also, acetone doesn't hurt nylon so it's not realy an issue regardless... Thanks for the heads up, I did not know that! I just knew that the wife uses acetone to remove nail polish and I thought it was in the lubricant itself...So it sounded dangerous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fcajump 153 #36 June 23, 2010 Not being a chemist, I admit to following the example of those who have more time/experience with these questions and then try to follow a conservative approach. To those who are in the industry, I would like to follow up with this second recommendation that was given me years ago... Prior to wiping down with the aforementioned ACE Hardware Silicon Lub, especially for those cables that have obviously not been cleaned in a long time, one should clean them with Lighter Fluid (Ronosonol). spec sheet: http://www.local510.org/msds_sheets/Ronsonol_MSDS.pdf By observation, this definately cleans off the aluminum ozide and/or dirt/oils etc... I've used this to clean and the Silicon Lub at every repack on my own rigs for over 10 years and the cables are clean and move very smoothly with no visible sign of ill affects to the coating. Curious what the chemists can tell me about this additional "cleaner"? JWAlways remember that some clouds are harder than others... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpwally 0 #37 June 23, 2010 warm soap and water also removes dirt,grime..etc,,,don't over do it with the chemicals...there are tons of stained rigs out there, where people used who knows what,,,they all look like hammered fuck smile, be nice, enjoy life FB # - 1083 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downtoearth 0 #38 June 24, 2010 I found astroglide silicone lubricant works good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #39 June 27, 2010 I learned a long time ago about 3in1 oil. It tends to get tacky and attracts dirt. I used to use it on my sewing machines and I found myself cleaning my machines too frequently. I now use Chevron 'Handy Oil'. A light coating of pure silicone seems to work best on release cables and attracts less dirt. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
