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dzkid39 0
I dont have that attitude bacause I have seen what happens when skydiving goes wrong. I think I know the concequences as good as some experenced skydivers.
QuoteI apologize to all for starting this post that has been horribly blown out of proportion... I do accept the fact that not everyone is going to accept me jumping at the age I am although I wish I could just get in touch with other jumpers my own age without the interference of old experienced jumpers... but thank you for all of your opinions and concerns...
I'm obviously catching into this thread late but imo I don't think there is anything wrong with it. I wish I could have started jumping with I was 15-16, little did I know I actually could have in Brazil. As long as there is a waiver in place, the DZO is aware of it and most importantly of all, you're safe. I don't see a problem with it. I know a number of skydivers who started young, power too you, just be careful and don't let other try to push you around. Follow the rules and remember you're just one of us, no one should be holding your hand or making any exceptions. Have fun, maybe I'll fun into you somwhere and take you on your head
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Quotelittle did I know I actually could have in Brazil.
Where people probably don't sue each other like they do here.
Wow...this post did get blown way out of proportion. Amazing how that can happen on here. Im 16 and its legal to jump at 16...i really dont see why people are making such a big deal out of it.
Most of us who started when we were 16 didnt just show up at the DZ one day and go "i wanna jump out of the airplane" We were there packing all summer and editing vids (for me anyways). Most of us have probably saw someone burn in or get hurt some way. And at night when everyone is sitting around talking about skydiving...you think we didnt pick up on most of it. In skydiving...i really dont see the difference in starting when your 16...or 18 (other than a bunch of legal concerns).
When it comes to maturity...i think that there are some 16 year old kids that should NOT be skydiving....but have i seen 30+ year olds that shouldnt be skydiving...yes.
As for wearing a sign around my neck that says im 16.....never done that. Dont think i need to. And i think most of the people that jump with me would agree on that.
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Most of us who started when we were 16 didnt just show up at the DZ one day and go "i wanna jump out of the airplane" We were there packing all summer and editing vids (for me anyways). Most of us have probably saw someone burn in or get hurt some way. And at night when everyone is sitting around talking about skydiving...you think we didnt pick up on most of it. In skydiving...i really dont see the difference in starting when your 16...or 18 (other than a bunch of legal concerns).
When it comes to maturity...i think that there are some 16 year old kids that should NOT be skydiving....but have i seen 30+ year olds that shouldnt be skydiving...yes.
As for wearing a sign around my neck that says im 16.....never done that. Dont think i need to. And i think most of the people that jump with me would agree on that.
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bigway 4
QuoteAs for wearing a sign around my neck that says im 16.....never done that. Dont think i need to. And i think most of the people that jump with me would agree on that.
agreed....you are a MALE
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Quoteother than a bunch of legal concerns
That was my point.........didn't make any other.
haha ohhh...i see that kind of sign...thought he was refering to a sign that said "im 16, i could sue your ass off...if i get hurt the dz will lose everything" sign.
Freeflir29....I know but it seemed like you were making it sound too dangerous to jump at 16. USPA has actually said that its perfectly legal to jump at 16. And...most of us have known the DZO for awhile so i guess its more of a matter of trust. For me...theres no way i would take any legal action against my DZO and he knows that. I agree though, with not letting every 16 year old that comes through the door skydive.
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Freeflir29....I know but it seemed like you were making it sound too dangerous to jump at 16. USPA has actually said that its perfectly legal to jump at 16. And...most of us have known the DZO for awhile so i guess its more of a matter of trust. For me...theres no way i would take any legal action against my DZO and he knows that. I agree though, with not letting every 16 year old that comes through the door skydive.
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Quotetheres no way i would take any legal action against my DZO and he knows that.
Not saying you or any other jumper would. It's 3rd parties that are my concern. Like if someone ended up in the power lines across the street (I helped put that fire out once) and burned down someone's house.....or landed on a car and killed someone. Since a 16 year old kid doesn't have much to be sued for......they are going to look at the millions of dollars of property and aircraft that were associated with the jump. Then they will start to hear the cash register ring.....
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Then Gene Paul's attorneys are going to have to prove, in court, that you should have been jumping. Speaking in a strictly legal sense........that's going to be a tough sell to a Whuffo jury. But........that's just IMHO.....I'm sure I'm wrong.
I see what your saying. But i actually think that anyone would go straight for the DZO. I dunno if the fact of a 16 year old skydiving would actually play a role in court or not. But...im no legal expert.
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Zep 0
Quotehey now, I've met a little skydiver at a boogie before, then he was like 11 and had at least 200 jumps I think.
Ya never know, maybe this girl's father owns a popular jump-plane
If your talking about who I think your talking about
I met him in a T-otter 6 years ago at WFFC
That little guy really impressed me
Then his Daddy did own a jumpship
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mx757 4
I got no problem with her skydiving at 16. seems like she's been around sport long enough to know, been packing 4 years etc. etc plus sounds like she got good group of skydivers keeping an eye out on her..sounds like they trained her well, and hold her to higher standard too. so she's 16? damn.. I was I could have started at 16 instead of when I was 24... Way to go girl.. but let me know when you turn.. 21 and can buy beer, because then your BEER! list while be so long.. you'll have to buy whole damn beer truck to pay off your beer!
She's a USPA member. She's got 3rd party liability insurance.
You are so very right about being sued by a third party or anyone for that matter. That is what makes this country so great, FREEDOM, if you take a chance and lose, be prepared to except the consequences.
Have you seen the waiver at Raeford lately? It is the size of a blank check. Worry will put you in a grave just as fast as a spinning canopy.
We all know what the risks are, especially DZ owners!!
My 2 cents (or lack of)
Have you seen the waiver at Raeford lately? It is the size of a blank check. Worry will put you in a grave just as fast as a spinning canopy.
We all know what the risks are, especially DZ owners!!
My 2 cents (or lack of)
BSBD...........Its all about Respect,
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USPA#-7062, FB-2197, Outlaw 499
QuoteShe's a USPA member. She's got 3rd party liability insurance.
Ahhh..........the laughable $25,000 worth.
I've been to dropzones before that wouldn't let me jump because I was underage, and also not been allowed to jump out of certain aircraft during boogies and the wffc. So in the end the DZO/Aircraft Owner have the final say. I don't see anything wrong with the situation if it is alright with the DZO. Besides this thread was about her trying to find other 16 year old skydivers, not whether or not she should jump at a DZ. I mean this is a forum for skydivers isn't it?
QuoteBesides this thread was about her trying to find other 16 year old skydivers, not whether or not she should jump at a DZ. I mean this is a forum for skydivers isn't it?
I agree...now how did all this legal stuff come up? Back to the original post.
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skymama 35
QuoteI agree...now how did all this legal stuff come up? Back to the original post.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
If anyone wants to debate the subject of 16 year olds skydiving, please start a new thread. This thread is back to Sky_Chica finding other kids her age to talk to.
She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man,
because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon
because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon
QuoteBetsy,
She was exposedm early and started packing 4 yrs ago. She is a great young lady who took up freefly right off of student status (last year). Her dad is a freeflier (former GK) and video guy out here. She is "watched carefully" as all "grommets" should be.
We got it...
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vt1977 0
I started skydiving at 16 too... that was a little over 10 years ago.
Nice one sky_chica!
Vicki
Nice one sky_chica!
Vicki
mouth 0
I for one am so excited you are up in the air with us. I can't wait to get up there and hopefully jump some with you even although I REALLY miss your packing skills as I still hate to pack.
I'll be up this w/e and actually have something for you. Remind me.
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At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit.
I'll be up this w/e and actually have something for you. Remind me.
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Hot Mama
At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit.
Who ya callin' old?!
Who ya callin' experienced?!
Jeez, kids these days...
I think it's awesome that there are skykiddies. As long as they're being safe and not following the usual teenage "I'm awesome and hot and invincible" thought process, I see no problem.
If I had started jumping when I was 16, I'd be dead. I had no maturity or sense of responsibility and most likely would have bounced trying to show off for a hottie.
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