Andy_Copland 0 #1 August 1, 2006 The BPA will give you an A license, yet you being able to pack isnt a requirment. Yet they wont let you jump a full face helmet until you have a B? Am i missing something here? 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pawl 0 #2 August 1, 2006 Well when you do find it, explain to me "Africa is not for sissies" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #3 August 1, 2006 I had a veteran DZO who said i couldn't wear my full face yet because she said i won't be able to see my handles. I told her i never look anyway and put my full face helmet on. I had about 100 jumps at the time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #4 August 1, 2006 I tried on a Mamba full face while i was geared up and located my handles, it wasnt a big deal at all. The part that bigs me is the BPA will give a license to someone if they cant pack yet its too dangerous to jump a full face...1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 35 #5 August 1, 2006 Quote I had a veteran DZO who said i couldn't wear my full face yet because she said i won't be able to see my handles. That's a stupid reason. I can't see my handles anyway because my boobs are in the way, it has nothing to do with my helmet! She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #6 August 1, 2006 I never even thought of that Why am i looking down myself to see if my boobs are stopping my vision...1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
godfrog 2 #7 August 1, 2006 QuoteQuote I had a veteran DZO who said i couldn't wear my full face yet because she said i won't be able to see my handles. That's a stupid reason. I can't see my handles anyway because my boobs are in the way, it has nothing to do with my helmet! OOOOOOWWOOOOW!!!!!Experience is a difficult teacher, she gives you the test first and the lesson afterward Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
missg8tordivr 0 #8 August 1, 2006 Boobs I can understand....but full face helmet blocking your vision of the handles? Only thing that I can think of, is under canopy it would be hard to hear for instruction. If you are off of student status hopefully that wouldn't be the case. From what I have experianced...Full face helmets have a tendancy to fog up when the get to a lower alti...any goggles/sunglasses do for that matter. If you aren't sure where your handles are and need to search for them with a foggy helmet then your out of luck.....you don't have much time to open your lens to clear the fog.... Thats the only thing that I can think of.*** F LORIDA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbrian 0 #9 August 1, 2006 QuoteI can't see my handles anyway because my boobs are in the way Braggart! In a world full of people, only some want to fly... isn't that crazy! --Seal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 35 #10 August 1, 2006 I've worn a full-face on almost every one of my post-student jumps because I wear glasses when I jump. I freefly in it all the time too. As for the fogging up, I've had a different experience. I've only had it fog up in the plane on cold days and on a wingsuit jump but usually it clears itself once I enter the air (it's not the kind that can flip-up). Maybe you're right about not being able to hear well, or maybe they think vision is obstructed in them. I dunno why they'd have that rule either. I've never relied on being able to see my handles. I always make an effort to feel where they are by running my hand up my harness as part of my pre-flight exercises. It's come in handy twice for me so far, thank goodness!She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #11 August 1, 2006 I've had 4 cutaways. 3 on a tandem, 1 sport jump and 1 that I don't count that was an intential on the Skyhook demo rig. All of them I never once looked at my handles. However, low time jumper (sub 50 jumps) may not have done enough handle touches that they can located directly without grabbing the MLW or their jumpsuit by accident. Especially doing 2-handed chops, since the harness moves after cutaway, making the reserve handle harder to located.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adventurechick 0 #12 August 1, 2006 Weird, packing was a requirement for my A...and I started wearing a full face helmet at 16 jumps. Why is it different here? PMS #449 TPM #80 Muff Brother #3860 SCR #14705 Dirty Sanchez #233 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #13 August 1, 2006 QuoteQuote I had a veteran DZO who said i couldn't wear my full face yet because she said i won't be able to see my handles. That's a stupid reason. I can't see my handles anyway because my boobs are in the way, it has nothing to do with my helmet! Sigh - Thank you for that.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 35 #14 August 1, 2006 QuoteSigh - Thank you for that. Stop thinking about my boobs! She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #15 August 1, 2006 QuoteQuoteSigh - Thank you for that. Stop thinking about my boobs! Ri i i i i i i i ght! I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #16 August 1, 2006 QuoteThat's a stupid reason. I can't see my handles anyway because my boobs are in the way, it has nothing to do with my helmet! How about some pics?!!!!! Uh, strictly for safety-evaluation, of course! heh, heh Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #17 August 1, 2006 Quote However, low time jumper (sub 50 jumps) may not have done enough handle touches that they can located directly without grabbing the MLW or their jumpsuit by accident. Especially doing 2-handed chops, since the harness moves after cutaway, making the reserve handle harder to located. My instructor usually tells his students if they can't see the handles, to grab both MLWs at the shoulders and feel your way down to the handles. These students pull high enough so an extra second is not going to be a big deal."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgm 0 #18 August 1, 2006 It might not be a requirement but Students and above can pack if they have the right qualifications or are supervised. Not sure about the helmet rule, it just is? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #19 August 1, 2006 Some people should be FORCED to wear a full face helmet.......... and backwards too Hi boy... fancy a jump with me and Billy this weekend? . (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #20 August 1, 2006 PM sent1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stitch 0 #21 August 1, 2006 QuoteQuote I had a veteran DZO who said i couldn't wear my full face yet because she said i won't be able to see my handles. That's a stupid reason. I can't see my handles anyway because my boobs are in the way, it has nothing to do with my helmet! I wonder if Clay has that problem."No cookies for you"- GFD "I don't think I like the sound of that" ~ MB65 Don't be a "Racer Hater" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,279 #22 August 1, 2006 Quote Anyone find it funny how... The BPA will give you an A license, yet you being able to pack isnt a requirment. Yet they wont let you jump a full face helmet until you have a B? I find it funny that we pay £115 dollarpounds a year to be treated like children... No, wait, I got a bit confused there - actually I really don't find it funny Ah fuck it you've got to laugh haven't you?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shermanator 3 #23 August 1, 2006 well, not initially a problem, we soon forget incidents of the past.... http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2189177;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread post #52 starts about how full face might have contributed. an interesting read.CLICK HERE! new blog posted 9/21/08 CSA #720 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,279 #24 August 1, 2006 Speculation at best. Anyway mine was more a response about the BPA in general rather than full faces in particular.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shermanator 3 #25 August 1, 2006 speculation, but still something to think about. I've never worn a full face, i like the wind in my face feeling, its part of the relaxation for me. oh what fun it is when i pop my goggles on top of my helmet and forget them there! .. *why do i feel so much wind in my eyes? ... ohhhhhh*CLICK HERE! new blog posted 9/21/08 CSA #720 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
