johndyer 0 #1 June 5, 2007 I ordered a Z1 from Paragear and when I recived it, the box had a lot of damage. Look at pictures to see. Would you return it if you recieved it like this? I don't see any visible damage to the helmet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #2 June 5, 2007 Quote don't see any visible damage to the helmet. Then no it's a helmet and made to bash your head into stuff, so as long as the face sheild is not damaged, try it on and bash your head into something hard to make sure it really works....you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johndyer 0 #3 June 5, 2007 Get right on that bashing. Kind of figured it's ok, just cringed when I saw the box. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #4 June 5, 2007 Quote Get right on that bashing. Let us know how that works out for ya...you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 8 #5 June 5, 2007 Yes, like Strato says, you should put on your helmet and get your skydiving buddies to help you out by bashing you in the head to make sure your new Z1 works. A couple of suggestions: 1) Lay down on a creeper and have your buddies spin you around head-first into a pole or something. This will simulate getting kicked in the head while performing a RW block transition during freefall and getting kicked in the head by a person in the opposite piece. 2) Stand-up and have your buddies bash you over your helmeted head with kendo-sticks. This will simulate getting your head bashed into the door jam during a mass exit when the person behind you cuts the corner and runs you into the airplane on the way out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #6 June 5, 2007 Quote I ordered a Z1 from Paragear and when I recived it, the box had a lot of damage. Look at pictures to see. Would you return it if you recieved it like this? I don't see any visible damage to the helmet. Return the BOX or the helmet?! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewGuy2005 51 #7 June 5, 2007 Send it to me and I'll check it for you and return it sooner or later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #8 June 5, 2007 QuoteI ordered a Z1 from Paragear and when I recived it, the box had a lot of damage. Look at pictures to see. Would you return it if you recieved it like this? I don't see any visible damage to the helmet. Keep the helmut. Return the box. You paid for a perfectly decent box. That's scandalous. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johndyer 0 #9 June 5, 2007 Quote Quote I ordered a Z1 from Paragear and when I recived it, the box had a lot of damage. Look at pictures to see. Would you return it if you recieved it like this? I don't see any visible damage to the helmet. Return the BOX or the helmet?! Guess I goofed, the helmet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Floats18 0 #10 June 5, 2007 I sincerely doubt that box's ability to protect your head from rogue skydivers and or aircraft now that it's been ripped. I DO NOT reccomend jumping with that box attached to your face--- and give them wings so they may fly free forever DiverDriver in Training Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenneth21441 0 #11 June 5, 2007 If no damage to the contents then keep it. I am sure that they packaged the contenets to prevent any damage. Te reason why the box looks that way is because of the empty space. After all what can you expect it must have been sent via UPS.... They try to max out the cube on those trailers....Kenneth Potter FAA Senior Parachute Rigger Tactical Delivery Instructor (Jeddah, KSA) FFL Gunsmith Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brianfry713 0 #12 June 5, 2007 I would doubt that Paragear sent you a bad box. Either throw it away, or go complain to the shipping company. Get a gear bag of some sort to carry the helmet in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,426 #13 June 5, 2007 >Would you return it if you recieved it like this? No! The box is there to protect the helmet from shipping damage. Looks like it performed its job admirably. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #14 June 6, 2007 You paid for a perfectly decent box. That's scandalous. Quote Perfectly decent?! That's absolutely mediocre! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #15 June 6, 2007 Quote After all what can you expect it must have been sent via UPS.... They try to max out the cube on those trailers.... And it's in the employee handbook each box must be drop kicked or tossed into the trailers AKA "fingerprinting" the load....you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #16 June 6, 2007 Fedex hires college kids around here. They sneak booze on the job and drop kick boxes into the trailers. Heavy boxes get throw through teamwork! "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #17 June 6, 2007 Could have been much worse Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johndyer 0 #18 June 6, 2007 Quote Could have been much worse You're right, could have been a lot worse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #19 June 6, 2007 Quote Fedex hires college kids around here. They sneak booze on the job and drop kick boxes into the trailers. Heavy boxes get throw through teamwork! Wanna bet who's rougher - baggage monkeys at the airport, or these Fed Ex/ UPS box handlers? I have cringed several times just watching those baggage monkeys throw certain items on the conveyor belt to the plane. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #20 June 6, 2007 I have cringed several times just watching those baggage monkeys throw certain items on the conveyor belt to the plane. Quote Then DON'T WATCH! Some things you're better off NOT knowing...like why your Orange juice tastes a little 'funny' at Denny's! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #21 June 6, 2007 Quote I sincerely doubt that box's ability to protect your head from rogue skydivers and or aircraft now that it's been ripped. I DO NOT reccomend jumping with that box attached to your face ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 36 #22 June 6, 2007 On a slightly more serious note, Some helmets, mainly certified ones, are one time use. They have styrofoam type material that absorbs the shock but can only do it once. Skydiving helmets are not in this class. For the most part they are not certified, and in most cases provide no real protection other than 'bump' protection. In some cases they can actually make things worse. Skydiving helmets keep your head warm, your eyes from watering (full face), hold your audibles and your cameras, keep the bump on the door from hurting too bad (if it's not too hard), and make your mother feel better. The cheapest actually, IMHO, provides the most protection. The Protect. If the helmet isn't physically damaged do the above, get skydiving.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
someday 0 #23 June 8, 2007 thats like returning a bulletproof vest because they didnt put packaging peanuts in the box Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johndyer 0 #24 June 8, 2007 Quotethats like returning a bulletproof vest because they didnt put packaging peanuts in the box The reason I asked was because it was a helmet, if you get a hairline fracture in one it can render it usless for helmets that are rated for impacts. After seeing the explaination that skydiving helmets aren't really rated for impacts I realize it's fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Floats18 0 #25 June 8, 2007 Someone take this thread out behind the shed and shoot it in the face... This topic is overcooked.--- and give them wings so they may fly free forever DiverDriver in Training Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
