mamajumps 0 #1 November 10, 2008 http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5302756 I am open minded and think everyone has the right to happiness, but I even have a hard time wrapping my head around this... best of luck to them both tho.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #2 November 10, 2008 That is not a man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chiquita24 0 #4 November 10, 2008 They are going to show "his" birth on DHC sometime this week. He was a female, but never had the sex change operation to change his parts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #5 November 10, 2008 It's closer to the bearded woman than it is to a pregnant man.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mamajumps 0 #6 November 10, 2008 I was just copying how it was listed on ABC. I can't even come close to being able to wrap my head around this..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #7 November 10, 2008 It should read transvestite gives birth. But then it wouldn't be as dramatic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #8 November 10, 2008 Just because you don't comprehend it doesn't mean there's anything horrible about it. Accept people as they are. If the person is happy, productive, and a good parent, who the hell cares what their genetic makeup is? Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mamajumps 0 #9 November 10, 2008 QuoteJust because you don't comprehend it doesn't mean there's anything horrible about it. Accept people as they are. If the person is happy, productive, and a good parent, who the hell cares what their genetic makeup is? never said there was, i just cant wrap my head around.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #10 November 10, 2008 I can't wrap my head around half the crap people say on here (especially in SC), but I figure deep down, we're all more alike than different, just all trying to do the best we can. Same with the guy in the story. Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mamajumps 0 #11 November 10, 2008 Quote I can't wrap my head around half the crap people say on here (especially in SC), but I figure deep down, we're all more alike than different, just all trying to do the best we can. Same with the guy in the story. SC is fun to go in with a great big stick just to stir the pot.... It is funny how many people in there have their panties in such a bunch... its fun to get them riled up.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mitsuman 0 #12 November 10, 2008 QuoteI can't wrap my head around half the crap people say on here (especially in SC), but I figure deep down, we're all more alike than different, just all trying to do the best we can. Same with the guy in the story. Girl in the story....Hi, my names Jon, and I love to skydive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #13 November 10, 2008 Quote Quote I can't wrap my head around half the crap people say on here (especially in SC), but I figure deep down, we're all more alike than different, just all trying to do the best we can. Same with the guy in the story. SC is fun to go in with a great big stick just to stir the pot.... It is funny how many people in there have their panties in such a bunch... its fun to get them riled up.... LOL!! Isn't that the truth! Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #14 November 10, 2008 QuoteQuoteI can't wrap my head around half the crap people say on here (especially in SC), but I figure deep down, we're all more alike than different, just all trying to do the best we can. Same with the guy in the story. Girl in the story.... If she wants to be referred to and live as a guy, I can respect that. I don't get it, but can respect it, it doesn't hurt me any to use his pronoun of choice. Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mitsuman 0 #15 November 10, 2008 Quote If she wants to be referred to and live as a guy, I can respect that. I don't get it, but can respect it, it doesn't hurt me any to use his pronoun of choice. Then don't have babies. Pretty womanly thing to do. IMOHi, my names Jon, and I love to skydive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #16 November 10, 2008 funny you would choose those words "accept people as they are" This person isn't "as they are". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #17 November 10, 2008 Quotefunny you would choose those words "accept people as they are" This person isn't "as they are". "as they are" is as much (or more) mental than physical. If he thinks he's a guy that happened to be stuck with a woman's genome, that is who he is. I don't know what it's like to feel like that, it has to suck, be confusing, be tough... seriously, it takes more guts to deal with that kind of ridicule than it does to fit society's norms, so I have a fair amount of respect for that. Again, it doesn't hurt me to use his preferred pronoun, so why not? I'd rather look at him with empathy than judgementality. Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #18 November 10, 2008 Mmmm.. Born with Vagina = Female Born with Penis = Male. Not so difficult really. This was is a woman that had a Baby. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tetra316 0 #19 November 10, 2008 Quote Mmmm.. Born with Vagina = Female Born with Penis = Male. So what do you call those that happen to be born with both? (Not the case here just asking ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #20 November 10, 2008 Don't forget those with Turners Syndrome (only one X chromosome instead of two), Triple X Syndrome, and Klinefelter's Syndrome (XXY chromosomes). There are all kinds of quirky things that can happen developmentally and genetically speaking, which is exactly why I have no problem with this guy wanting to live as and be treated as a guy (or vice versa). There are biological reasons for people to live like that. Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #21 November 10, 2008 QuoteDon't forget those with Turners Syndrome (only one X chromosome instead of two), Triple X Syndrome, and Klinefelter's Syndrome (XXY chromosomes). And none of these apply to this Woman. I dont care how she wants to live her life. But saying a Man had a baby is inaccurate here. A Woman that has chosen to live life as a Man has a baby. No big deal, Women have babies all the time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #22 November 10, 2008 Quote But saying a Man had a baby is inaccurate here. A Woman that has chosen to live life as a Man has a baby. No big deal, Women have babies all the time. I do agree with that... but I wasn't the one that started the thread. Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #23 November 10, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteI can't wrap my head around half the crap people say on here (especially in SC), but I figure deep down, we're all more alike than different, just all trying to do the best we can. Same with the guy in the story. Girl in the story.... If she wants to be referred to and live as a guy, I can respect that. I don't get it, but can respect it, it doesn't hurt me any to use his pronoun of choice. Well sure, but it wasn't an actual man who gave birth. It was a woman who wants to be a man. Big difference. The day a real man has a baby I'll be impressed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SimpleJack 0 #24 November 10, 2008 God! He looks like Leonardo DiCaprio! GROSS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chiquita24 0 #25 November 14, 2008 Pregnant man who just had baby is pregnant AGAIN! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
