millertime24 8 #1 April 20, 2011 And here's why. My equipment: -Cobalt 135 main -Pheonixfly Shadow Wingsuit - Well... the rest doesn't really matter This is the second time this thing has smacked the ever-loving holy fuck out of me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFwK07bcRBEMuff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #2 April 20, 2011 Damn, well, start packing the slider up. You know that in skiing, Diamond, , runs are hard. And double diamonds, , are the absolute hardest. Well . . . look at the logo on your canopy. Hello? It advertises how it opens, right on the bottom. Hey, glad to see you're down in Deland having fun. Hope you don't have tooooo many bruises from that one. Good thing you're young and tough. That slammer would've knocked me into next week. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #3 April 20, 2011 Can you say 'insta-canopy'? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #4 April 20, 2011 Um... Thats Z-Hills. But yeah, this thing like to be packed a VERY certian way. My guess is when I dropped it in the packing tent someone picked it up and packed it like they would a Pilot. After bringing the opening up with ALL the packers I didn't have a hard one the rest of the weekend. Either way, canopies SHOULD NOT ever open this hard. It took me a while to get my mind right after that one, and my neck still hurts like hell (dont worry it's muscular). My next move is to buy a Pilot 124 and keep this canopy for another rig when Im in a pinch. BTW, I MAY not be as old as you, but I sure as hell feel 20 yrs older than you right now.Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 3 #5 April 20, 2011 Quote Damn, well, start packing the slider up. You know that in skiing, Diamond, , runs are hard. And double diamonds, , are the absolute hardest. Well . . . look at the logo on your canopy. Hello? It advertises how it opens, right on the bottom. Hey, glad to see you're down in Deland having fun. Hope you don't have tooooo many bruises from that one. Good thing you're young and tough. That slammer would've knocked me into next week. Must be a damn good wingsuit, or a horrible spot, as he's flying over Z-Hills! "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #6 April 20, 2011 someone picked it up and packed it... Quote [old guy voice] ~Well HELL kid....there's yer problem right there! [/old guy voice] ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,400 #7 April 20, 2011 Quote Damn, well, start packing the slider up. I must agree. I saw no evidence the slider was ever up.But damn! A hard opening on a wingsuit dive???"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpsalot-2 2 #8 April 20, 2011 I watched that frame by frame in slow motion and never saw your slider move ( down ).........?....Was there an Ill Vision wingsuit on that jump ?Life is short ... jump often. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #9 April 20, 2011 Quote someone picked it up and packed it... Quote [old guy voice] ~Well HELL kid....there's yer problem right there! [/old guy voice] HEY!!! Ya old fucker. Theres these things now called "packers". They will pack your parachute for you so long as you feed them. And if I'm honest, I'm the worlds laziest skydiver (not that I CANT pack a parachute, but I just dont want to). Guess on this canopy I should just pack for myself "shudder" or educate every packer I ever come across on how to properly pack this canopy.Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #10 April 20, 2011 Yep, I had a 135 that opened ok, demoed a brand new 120 and it opened hard enough to shut the camera off on three straight jumps. I thought they pulled out of the skydiving market and were strictly military drop canopies now.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #11 April 20, 2011 QuoteI watched that frame by frame in slow motion and never saw your slider move ( down ).........?....Was there an Ill Vision wingsuit on that jump ? I also went over the frame by frame... on the un-edited video off my camera. In one frame you see the left risers and after the next 2 you see the slider (not collapsed) at the risers with a almost full open canopy. Things I KNOW AS FACT: -The rig (when I put it on) was packed with NO slider showing. - This has happened before with a packer unfamiliar with this canopy. - After this happened and I used a dedicated packer for the rest of my weekend it didnt happen again.Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpsalot-2 2 #12 April 20, 2011 Pack job = $ 5.00...Pack job slider up $ 2.50 extra.Life is short ... jump often. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #13 April 20, 2011 QuoteI watched that frame by frame in slow motion and never saw your slider move ( down ).........?....Was there an Ill Vision wingsuit on that jump ? And where would they hide the slider? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpsalot-2 2 #14 April 20, 2011 There's no way a packer could miss seeing the slider laying in the pack tray, if it was down on the connector links, and you said you didn't see it. It must have been up or partially up.Life is short ... jump often. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #15 April 20, 2011 Quote Quote someone picked it up and packed it... Quote [old guy voice] ~Well HELL kid....there's yer problem right there! [/old guy voice] HEY!!! Ya old fucker. Theres these things now called "packers". They will pack your parachute for you so long as you feed them. And if I'm honest, I'm the worlds laziest skydiver (not that I CANT pack a parachute, but I just dont want to). Guess on this canopy I should just pack for myself "shudder" or educate every packer I ever come across on how to properly pack this canopy. Damn Jiffy Lube Generation...and stay off my LAWN! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VideoFly 0 #16 April 20, 2011 I’ve got a lot of jumps on three Cobalts: a 120 and 2- 150’s. They have always opened slowly, which is why I like them for camera jumps. However, I’ve had an occasional whacker. It seems that they work well when packed in a specific way. I had one whacker on my newer 150, which broke through both sides of my camera helmet at the cheeks and broke my neck pretty badly. Now, with my hip bone and titanium neck, I jump my older Cobalt, which consistently gives me 1,500-1,800 foot openings. My son is jumping the Cobalt that whacked me and has never had a problem. As I said before, a specific packing method seems to work well with Cobalts. Once you have dialed that in – stick with it. Also, Cobalts have not been made for years, so there is a good chance yours might be used enough to need a line set. When you jump one until it's out of trim, it's hard to notice it's bad. But if you get one out of trim, it may be quite noticeable. Measure your line set and make sure it is within proper tolerance. An out of trim Cobalt might also whack you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #17 April 20, 2011 I managed to pause the video and get this screen shot showing the slider "up" (but obviously on it's way down pretty quickly). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,400 #18 April 20, 2011 Quote Now, with my hip bone and titanium neck, I jump my older Cobalt, which consistently gives me 1,500-1,800 foot openings. When I learned to jump, they taught me to cutaway a streamer.Sheesh! And I thought the 700-1100 foot openings my my Diablo were slow!"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keithbar 1 #19 April 20, 2011 I feel you pain. ask me about my demo on a pd storm at fitz. fucking neck still hurts i have on occasion been accused of pulling low . My response. Naw I wasn't low I'm just such a big guy I look closer than I really am . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #21 April 20, 2011 QuoteHEY!!! Ya old fucker. Theres these things now called "packers". They will pack your parachute for you so long as you feed them. If you're using a parachute that needs to be packed precisely to open well, then handing to a packer isn't the best idea. If you're going to use packers on a regular basis, it makes sense to hand them something a little more tolerant of the imprecision of fast packing. Additionally, if you want to jump a wing suit, it makes even more sense to jump something that is more (not less) tolerant of packing errors.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #22 April 20, 2011 Quote Damn Jiffy Lube Generation...and stay off my LAWN! There's a real problem in our country when guys in their twenties pay some one to change their oil. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #23 April 20, 2011 Quote There's no way a packer could miss seeing the slider laying in the pack tray, Sure, they would see it, right before they laid the bag on it and closed the container. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #24 April 20, 2011 QuoteIt took me a while to get my mind right after that one, and my neck still hurts like hell (dont worry it's muscular). My next move is to buy a Pilot 124 and keep this canopy for another rig when Im in a pinch. Speaking of pinched, as in nerve, get yourself checked out by a doctor. As in now. Your spine just might be more injured than you realize (even if you don't feel it). As in, hairline vertebral fracture. And if it is, you need to know to act accordingly and do nothing that might exacerbate it. You won't know for sure until you get checked out. A C-spine is not something to f*** around with. If any medical professionals disagree with this, by all means speak up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #25 April 20, 2011 Quote Damn, well, start packing the slider up. You know that in skiing, Diamond, , runs are hard. And double diamonds, , are the absolute hardest. Well . . . look at the logo on your canopy. Hello? It advertises how it opens, right on the bottom. Hey, glad to see you're down in Deland having fun. Hope you don't have tooooo many bruises from that one. Good thing you're young and tough. That slammer would've knocked me into next week. Maybe a celibate Cobalt would open better Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
