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Chuck
base428 1
My rig had a main bag grommet that was so poorly struck (offset) that I could easily fit about two entire microlines underneath it. My backpad was missing some stitching that allowed me to put two fingers behind it (not a cause of a mal, but should have been noticed in QC).
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QuoteIt's not a Mirage. Mirages are built with a reinforcement in that location to prevent such things.
Sure, and then they screw up the location of the cypres cutter...
I have a Wings and it's a well built rig. I would buy another one in a heart beat.
903
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QuoteI'm disappointed that others have also had problems with their Wings and bad QC'ing.
Now now Jason, take a deep breath. No one in the industry likes to think that they let poor workmanship out of the door, but it happens. There isn't a rig made by any company that hasn't been sent back by a customer. No matter what QC is in place, there's going to be materials and construction issues that get by to the public. It's int he nature of any manufacturing process.
As active jumpers, it's also up to us to inspect our gear too when we get it. You did, found the problem, and the Wings guys sorted it out for you at hopefully no expense, and as little inconvenience as possible.
I see Mirage having an issue right now and dealing with it in a preofessional manner. Aerodyne had theirs recently and did the same. Sunpath just finished a directive on their students rigs. All of the companies want to keep confidence in their product high.
The bottom line is that it's up to all of us to be involved in the quality control of every manufacturer. I know for a fact that no manufacturer wants to see a substandard piece of equipment go out the door, but if it does, it's up to us to spot it and hold them to a high level of product support. I believe all the major players step up to this.
base428 1
Cya.
QuoteNow now Jason, take a deep breath.
QuoteYou got off lucky!
Be thankful that you only suffered a few line twists.
Vector, Javelin, Sidewinder, Talon, etc. owners have torn reserve containers off their harnesses during unstable openings.
One of the new features of the Odyssey besides internal risers covers is a seamless (bottom corners) reserve tray. Thus eliminating any snag points without the need for additional protection.
Years ago(many) wrapping the risers down and around the reserve tray was done all the time, hell you had to, the risers were like, what 3' long?
Today, I don't think any manufacturer recommends that. I believe they all suggest the risers run straight down the rig.
I sold my G4 (for obvious reasons) last year what protection did/do they have, I didn't quite understand the other description?
gjhdiver 0
QuoteThanks for calming me down Gjhdiver. Unfortunately, it's my duty to tell others about my faulty rig because the next guy *might not* inspect his rig as well as you and me. Plus, there are some minor mistakes that make it through QC, and then there's MY rig. I still jump my Wings rig and I like it. Ya just gotta get out the magnifying glass and inspect the new ones. Constructive criticism only makes us smarter...
Cya.Quote
Yup. Couldn't agree more. That's pretty much what I was saying there.
QuoteSure, and then they screw up the location of the cypres cutter...
Obviously you don't know what you're talking about.
So where is the cutter on your wings?
j.a.
You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.
QuoteThere isn't a rig made by any company that hasn't been sent back by a customer. No matter what QC is in place,
Absofreakinloutly.
I'm glad Sunrise Rigging is addressing the problem. Hopefuly it prompts a design change. Good to see them owning up, as some manufacturers haven't.
You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.
Chrisky 0
From the edge you just see more.
... Not every Swooper hooks & not every Hooker swoops ...
sdctlc 0
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As active jumpers, it's also up to us to inspect our gear too when we get it. You did, found the problem, and the Wings guys sorted it out for you at hopefully no expense, and as little inconvenience as possible.
Ok now, I started this thread nad I am going to add a few more cents into it. My Wings is an outstanding rig, its comfortable and works great! The problem was noted by me the day i put the reserve in it the first time. I noted the problem and made allowences to address it. Once I had the packing down (every rig I have owned has had its own little tricks to it) it was NEVER and issue again. I let Sunrise know and they were very happy to assist. YOU CANT ASK FOR MORE! QC at every place will let one get by but it is how they respond that makes the difference. they stepped up and did a graet job, fast and clean.. Hopefully they make a manufacturing change and the issue is truley a non-issue
Another rig I have had a problem that the manufacturer gladly fixed while I waited. They did this even though I bought the rig used. Another example of outstanding support.
I am not going to defend a company and say one is flat out beter then another as every one out there has had problems of some sort.. THE TRUE TEST IS HOW THEY RESPOND! I say again Kudos to Sunrise for stepping up and fixing the issue I had. I would by another one.
NOW that said personal responsibility is key in life and in THIS SPORT! I inspect very carefully all of my gerar and treat it very well. It saves my life after all. Garath hit the nail on the head regarding jumpers noting the condition of their gear. EVERYONE SHOULD DO IT! Inspect your gear on a regular basis and you will find little things to fix or repair, be it wear and tear or a minor problem that might have bneen there all along finally to a majoy issue that needs to be addressed, it is ultimately up to you to decide to jump the gear you jump......
Scott C.
You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.
I love seeing a manufacturer identify a problem and then take active steps to prevent it from causing an incident.
QuoteObviously you don't know what you're talking about
I never do and I wish I had your knowledge and wisdom.
903
You're statemenet that Mirage placed the Cypres cutter mounting location improperly, was nothing more than inflamitory. When was it incorrect? Before or after the SB? Either location was approved by the AAD manufacturer. So what's your beef?
You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.
Fido
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