gowaylow 0 #1 October 26, 2006 Hello, I had this conversation with Kramer a few months ago after he witnessed all the carnage at the Twin Falls Memorial Day Boogie. When we learned to BASE jump we were scared. When we learned to BASE jump it was still a secret. When we learned to BASE jump all the gear was black. When we learned to BASE jump it was not done in public. When we learned to BASE jump it was not for just anybody. Nowadays the new young jumpers don't know crap about gear, they don't generally seem to know about the history of BASE mods, and they often seem to take very lightly the danger of injury and death. We are the elite, the aged and active BASE jumper is truly a rare breed. This comment came after some talk about the quality of the self proclaimed exsperienced BASE Jumpers at BD (non staff) Where are we heading?????? have a GOWAYLOW day Have a GoWayLow day Naked BASE #7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowaylow 0 #2 October 26, 2006 Another conversation at BD on the van on the way to the top after 3rd jump. guy in back of van "WHO IS CARL BEONISH"?? guy in front of the van "you are so lucky there is alot of nylon between you and me right now". guy in back of van "No really who is he". this summs up BD day 2006 for me. have a gowaylow dayHave a GoWayLow day Naked BASE #7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtholmes 0 #3 October 26, 2006 why would you care if someone did not know who Carl Boenish was?? That is how people learn by asking questions. Why was it a good thing there was space between the two of you? would you have been angry? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #4 October 26, 2006 with age comes wisdom.... share it, if you have it.Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ToyMaker 0 #5 October 26, 2006 Quote When we learned to BASE jump we were scared. When we learned to BASE jump it was still a secret. When we learned to BASE jump all the gear was black. ... So why would you even bother to post this in here? I mean... If you'r soooo "special" why would you even care to talk about it with all of us! Quote ...the aged and active BASE jumper is truly a rare breed. If there's anything like a breed of your kind, I can't wait to see you extinct. So you think that... ohh... forget it... you'r not worth a longer comment. Go get a hair cut... looser... Gabe_______________________________________ White cute poodle puppy found. Approximately six months of age. Blue collar but no tags. Very friendly. Tasted like chicken Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowaylow 0 #6 October 26, 2006 why would you care if someone did not know who Carl Boenish was?? never said I cared!!! Why was it a good thing there was space between the two of you? the two of who??? I was just in the van would you have been angry? I don't get angry it's a waste of energy. Have a GoWayLow day Naked BASE #7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MB38 0 #7 October 26, 2006 Quotewith age comes wisdom.... share it, if you have it.I really don't know what I'm talking about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d_goldsmith 1 #8 October 26, 2006 QuoteNowadays the new young jumpers don't know crap about gear, they don't generally seem to know about the history of BASE mods, and they often seem to take very lightly the danger of injury and death. We are the elite, the aged and active BASE jumper is truly a rare breed. I'm not trying to deny the last comment, but I don't think it's fair to generalize that the new young jumpers have all those flaws. ToyMaker isn't helping my stereotype though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elduderino 0 #9 October 26, 2006 to be a BASE jumper and not to know who is carl boenish or brian schubert is like to say : i am a christ but who the fuck is jesus!!!!! there are so many dudes jumping everything and know nothing about the sport, the ideals are when a velcro has to be replaced,.... but they jump a v-1 and aks "funny questions" on the forums...bahh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazydave44 0 #10 October 26, 2006 If any "young" jumper cannot respect what you guys introduced to the world is just a complete idiot. If any "Old" jumper cannot respect what evolution has done to the sport, then you are a complete idiot. If we can all just understand that there always has to be a 'first', then evolution, and there should be no conflict. I can only imagine how you guys felt jumping all of that experimental gear. You truly had real balls, and I thank all of you guys for all of your contributions. But as a 'young' jumper, I am happy to experience the new, safe technology, and innovations coming into this sport. Wingsuit is just the beginning. We are pushing the limit too, and as evolution will progress; you have to respect what we are doing too. You should be proud for what you have established, and watch it grow with pride. peace________________________________________ "We make our own rules, We pave our own paths, We write our own destinies, We 'live' our own lives" ________________________________________ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gweeks 1 #11 October 26, 2006 In 20 years my generation will be saying the same kinda stuff about the next crop of young whipper snappers crazy enough to huck themselves off of shit. "These kids don't even know who Dwain and Slim are." We'll fondly remember the days of F111 canopies, orbiting pilot chutes, offheading openings, etc. Nostalgia is a bittersweet bitch. Things never stay the same, but evolution is usually good. Enjoy your memories of the good old days. They can't be taken away and they are precious. Share them once in a while. We'd love to hear about them. Try to remember that what unites us all -- new and old -- are the feelings we get from this unique and beautiful sport. And take comfort in the fact that there are those among the newer generation who are still "keeping it real," but dz.com is the last place you would hear about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowaylow 0 #12 October 26, 2006 QuoteIf there's anything like a breed of your kind, I can't wait to see you extinct. Quotethe reason our breed isn't extinct is because of the comments made in the first post by a jumper who is still here and has spread many of our friends ashes off just about every object you guys now take for granted. the comment was not ment as negative just an observation and that observation is that the new breed of jumpers REALLY don't have enough information to be making the types of jumps they are. If you stay with the sport you to will have as many dead frinds as we do. new technologies or not. darwin takes care of the genetic pool you to will be dust in someones hand at the exit point long before I So why would you even bother to post this in here Quoteso I can tell your friends I told you so!!! ***Go get a hair cut... looser... If my hair was any shorter I would be bald!!!! have a GOWAYLOW dayHave a GoWayLow day Naked BASE #7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Mac 1 #13 October 26, 2006 Quotehave a GOWAYLOW day I loved that sign off during the BLiNC days..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gowaylow 0 #14 October 26, 2006 QuoteIf any "young" jumper cannot respect what you guys introduced to the world is just a complete idiot. If any "Old" jumper cannot respect what evolution has done to the sport, then you are a complete idiot. If we can all just understand that there always has to be a 'first', then evolution, and there should be no conflict. I can only imagine how you guys felt jumping all of that experimental gear. You truly had real balls, and I thank all of you guys for all of your contributions. But as a 'young' jumper, I am happy to experience the new, safe technology, and innovations coming into this sport. Wingsuit is just the beginning. We are pushing the limit too, and as evolution will progress; you have to respect what we are doing too. You should be proud for what you have established, and watch it grow with pride. peace we are still here wingsuit in hand and continuing to shape the technologies you young jumpers have today and tomorrow. there just seems to be a lack of understanding of where we were and where we are now. With that lack of understanding comes REGRSSION when a harness won't fit around my wheelchair I will give it up to you newbies have a GOWAYLOW dayHave a GoWayLow day Naked BASE #7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mtnlion667 0 #15 October 26, 2006 hey man, If it wasn't for gowaylow, mac, mknutson, Ddog,JJ,Truckerbase and so many others I never would have found this sport to be possible to a mere mortal like myself(thanks Blinc). I've learned a ton from you guys, and appreciate all of it. I am a young (30)loudmouth punk, I admit that. But I respect everything you guys have done. There are plenty more like me also. But like a previous poster wrote... DZ.com is not where to find them, nor is BD. This board (and BD)is a source of entertainment, and i suppose knowledge for some. Don't hate on the ignorant, everybody needs to learn somehow and sometime. Don't worry, anybody I help along through their early stages will get plenty an earfull about those that pioneered our trail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wwarped 0 #16 October 26, 2006 Quote But as a 'young' jumper, I am happy to experience the new, safe technology, and innovations coming into this sport. Wingsuit is just the beginning. We are pushing the limit too, and as evolution will progress; you have to respect what we are doing too. one key point, do you understand the equipment? VBK earns serious respect for their efforts. others do as well. some young jumpers do NOT understand what they do, spend little time thinking things through, and want to be told immediately the answer to every question. this second group of jumpers give us all a bad name... DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtholmes 0 #17 October 26, 2006 They call us problem child We spend our lives on trial We walk an endless mile We are the youth gone wild We stand and we won't fall We're the one and one for all The writing's on the wall We are the youth gone wild -Skid Row 1989 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites magot 0 #18 October 26, 2006 no shit Im right with u brother I was jumping 10 years before i made a base jump and my gear is black or camo and im a fucking porno star ninjaTOSS MY SALAD I'm an invincible re-tarded ninja derka derka bakala bakala muhammad jihad 1072 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KidWicked 0 #19 October 27, 2006 Quoteno shit Im right with u brother I was jumping 10 years before i made a base jump and my gear is black or camo and im a fucking porno star ninja Yeah, you're something all right. Why do you write like that.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #20 October 27, 2006 I'm relatively new the BASE (so take what I have to say with a grain of salt), and I do agree with many of the things you have said. However there is one thing that is kind of hard for the older more seasoned people to take and that it that the future of this sport is with the new blood. The future is with the young people. Hopefully the young people build the proper respect for this sport, but it is their destiny to take it where they wish to take it. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TVPB 0 #21 October 27, 2006 Some interesting comments / answers / etc in this thread. Some general observations (IMHO): - you just can't stop progress. All you can do is debate whether or not you spell it as "progress" or " regress". But there is no harm in trying if you feel strongly enough about where the future is heading. - BASE Jumping has just hit 13 y.o. Yep, she's a teenager now. And she acts just like one. There are many parts to this teenager. There is the brain (these are the jumpers who do the right thing AND have fun). There are the arms and legs (well, these ones just get told to do what they should by the brain and the blindly follow). Then there is the . . . . . (these are the idiots people who just do what the hell they want without listening or caring for themselves or anyone else). - self preservation???? Society in general is creating a mindset of we'll look after you and if you stuff up, we'll blame someone else and get some money off them. There are jumpers with this attitude today. - people with a lack of interest or respect for anything other than themselves and the moment they are living in - continued theme from the point above. To me it's like having ethnic parents and totally ignoring their culture / language / history / etc in an attempt to assimilate totally into the society you live in. It is a personal choice that is up to the individual to make, but I think it is very shallow, lazy, empty, disrespectful, etc. How would you feel if you went in and everyone just said "who the hell was that . . . . and who cares"? - BASE is now where skydiving was. And no matter which way you cut it, it is NOT a good thing when people do things with no understanding. It is just like getting married without truly knowing the one you love. People nowadays don't care because they know they have an easy out - divorce. I'm fine with that, but why the hell do people give forever commitments at the ceremony when there is a great chance they will not follow through. There is not much integrity in that. Why is this relevant? Because modern society has very little understanding or time for the things it does. Just like BASE jumpers. Unless you make some effort to understand what you are doing, why, etc, you will not have true respect for it and you will happily throw it away when it is convenient. Or if it bites you on the arse, and you end up dead / divorced, society will say things like: "it was inevitable", we knew the risks, etc. But does it?????? Do we?????? - QuoteThe writing's on the wall We are the youth gone wild It does not mean it is right. There is freedom, and then there is ignorance. Expressing your freedom by risking your life for little gain is not smart. Risking it for great gain is admirable. Who gives a rats arse if you played frogger with traffic and ended up dead? We already know that running against the traffic will most probably lead to death. So do something more productive. Fly to the moon. Break a world record. Pioneer something. QuoteI'm not trying to deny the last comment, but I don't think it's fair to generalize that the new young jumpers have all those flaws. There are always exceptions. But the reality of today is that people (i.e. jumpers) can do more than ever before . . . . . . . . . . but they understand less. It's kind of like kids today - they can work magic on computers but they do not know how to tell the time on a traditional clock or work out sums in their heads. Is this a bad thing???? That is a matter of opinion. But the fact is, understanding and living the fundamental safety, ethics, and values of BASE jumping is vitally important to keeping any old OR new BASE jumper alive. A triple inward with three twists is great. But if you can't choose sites appropriately, then it does not look so cool!!!!! Quotewhy would you care if someone did not know who Carl Boenish was?? That is how people learn by asking questions. Why was it a good thing there was space between the two of you? would you have been angry? IMHO - First jump students???? That I can understand. But people with a little more experience should have some degree of knowledge of the thing they are participating in. If they say they love the sport, then they should know something about it. Unless it is not the sport they love, unless it is only themselves that they love, then I can understand why they would not know who Carl / DW / JM / etc are. It is similar to a citizen not knowing who there president / prime minister / mayor is. To me it shows a total lack of awareness and respect for the skills, achievements, stewardship, etc of other people in society. And it is much harder to grow as a person, to progress, to become more that what you currently are if you do not know anything about other people. In the end, I think gowaylow is just frustrated in that he wants people to know more and take better care of themselves when BASE jumping. He, like many others, has seen too many people drop dead in front of him. He also sees the potential of so many people who could contribute to our future, but they will not be able to because they will be stuck in a box 6 feet under somewhere. If you have no respect for others, it is extremely difficult to have respect for yourself. Stay Safe Have Fun Good Luck Stay Safe - Have Fun - Good Luck The above could be crap, thought provoking, useful, or . . But not personal. You decide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites crazydave44 0 #22 October 27, 2006 Of course I understand my equipment. Only a dumb ass would participate in something as extreme as this on a whim. I think everything through, and the more I jump, the more I think about every little detail. Plus I have some great intelligent friends to jump with, and we all usually think things through and jump with a sound mind as a group. I have yet to be on a jump with my crew and not all come together collectively as a whole to make what we consider to be the best decision at the time. Of course when I first started, I was too anxious, and did not always make the best of decisions. I think every jumper goes through this phase. I really do appreciate all of the efforts from the past, and the present. To be quite honest with you, I don't know if I would have been a BASE jumper in the early 80's. In now days standards, and equipment, I feel more confident that it will work. We are basically just participating in a calculated risk now. Where as then, you guys were just hard fucking core. All the props in the world from me to all of you. Thanks!!!________________________________________ "We make our own rules, We pave our own paths, We write our own destinies, We 'live' our own lives" ________________________________________ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JOY 0 #23 October 27, 2006 Hey guys, this is Old Timer Rick Harrison. Great discussion and I totally agree that evolution of BASE and everything in life is inevitable. The newer skills, wing suits, techniques and gear are great. But remember, to be a good leader in any endeavor, politics, spots and BASE, you need to have an understanding of where we've been and how we started in order to know where we should go. This is the only way to prevent repeating mistakes of the past. People like Mick and Tom's sites are as important to this evolution as us old guys since sharing information world wide is critical to positive evolution. Anyway, I do believe being a whole BASE jumper involves more than just having the balls to jump off the edge although that is a big part that separates us from any other in the world. There is a "Spirit" of BASE we all need to hang on to. Rick Harrison BASE 38.[email protected] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gowaylow 0 #24 October 27, 2006 Thanks Tom, That was very well articulated and the point that I was wanting to get across but just did not put it all together as well as you did. I remember the day we were all jumping past DW hanging on the wall at the eagels nest. I had a 90 left and he yelled no room over here mate. lesson learned! If DW is hanging from nylon on a wall find another wall to jump. Have a GoWayLow dayHave a GoWayLow day Naked BASE #7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Calvin19 0 #25 October 27, 2006 Quote . Hopefully the young people build the proper respect for this sport, but it is their destiny to take it where they wish to take it. Steve, I think that the young ones are and will write their own respect for the sport. the young ones, like me, are already teaching new young ones. I will alway respect the Pioneers, and i will always practice BASE with repect as i wa taught from a pioneer, but man, i dono whats going to happen. -SPACE- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 0
Mac 1 #13 October 26, 2006 Quotehave a GOWAYLOW day I loved that sign off during the BLiNC days..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowaylow 0 #14 October 26, 2006 QuoteIf any "young" jumper cannot respect what you guys introduced to the world is just a complete idiot. If any "Old" jumper cannot respect what evolution has done to the sport, then you are a complete idiot. If we can all just understand that there always has to be a 'first', then evolution, and there should be no conflict. I can only imagine how you guys felt jumping all of that experimental gear. You truly had real balls, and I thank all of you guys for all of your contributions. But as a 'young' jumper, I am happy to experience the new, safe technology, and innovations coming into this sport. Wingsuit is just the beginning. We are pushing the limit too, and as evolution will progress; you have to respect what we are doing too. You should be proud for what you have established, and watch it grow with pride. peace we are still here wingsuit in hand and continuing to shape the technologies you young jumpers have today and tomorrow. there just seems to be a lack of understanding of where we were and where we are now. With that lack of understanding comes REGRSSION when a harness won't fit around my wheelchair I will give it up to you newbies have a GOWAYLOW dayHave a GoWayLow day Naked BASE #7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtnlion667 0 #15 October 26, 2006 hey man, If it wasn't for gowaylow, mac, mknutson, Ddog,JJ,Truckerbase and so many others I never would have found this sport to be possible to a mere mortal like myself(thanks Blinc). I've learned a ton from you guys, and appreciate all of it. I am a young (30)loudmouth punk, I admit that. But I respect everything you guys have done. There are plenty more like me also. But like a previous poster wrote... DZ.com is not where to find them, nor is BD. This board (and BD)is a source of entertainment, and i suppose knowledge for some. Don't hate on the ignorant, everybody needs to learn somehow and sometime. Don't worry, anybody I help along through their early stages will get plenty an earfull about those that pioneered our trail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wwarped 0 #16 October 26, 2006 Quote But as a 'young' jumper, I am happy to experience the new, safe technology, and innovations coming into this sport. Wingsuit is just the beginning. We are pushing the limit too, and as evolution will progress; you have to respect what we are doing too. one key point, do you understand the equipment? VBK earns serious respect for their efforts. others do as well. some young jumpers do NOT understand what they do, spend little time thinking things through, and want to be told immediately the answer to every question. this second group of jumpers give us all a bad name... DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtholmes 0 #17 October 26, 2006 They call us problem child We spend our lives on trial We walk an endless mile We are the youth gone wild We stand and we won't fall We're the one and one for all The writing's on the wall We are the youth gone wild -Skid Row 1989 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magot 0 #18 October 26, 2006 no shit Im right with u brother I was jumping 10 years before i made a base jump and my gear is black or camo and im a fucking porno star ninjaTOSS MY SALAD I'm an invincible re-tarded ninja derka derka bakala bakala muhammad jihad 1072 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #19 October 27, 2006 Quoteno shit Im right with u brother I was jumping 10 years before i made a base jump and my gear is black or camo and im a fucking porno star ninja Yeah, you're something all right. Why do you write like that.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #20 October 27, 2006 I'm relatively new the BASE (so take what I have to say with a grain of salt), and I do agree with many of the things you have said. However there is one thing that is kind of hard for the older more seasoned people to take and that it that the future of this sport is with the new blood. The future is with the young people. Hopefully the young people build the proper respect for this sport, but it is their destiny to take it where they wish to take it. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TVPB 0 #21 October 27, 2006 Some interesting comments / answers / etc in this thread. Some general observations (IMHO): - you just can't stop progress. All you can do is debate whether or not you spell it as "progress" or " regress". But there is no harm in trying if you feel strongly enough about where the future is heading. - BASE Jumping has just hit 13 y.o. Yep, she's a teenager now. And she acts just like one. There are many parts to this teenager. There is the brain (these are the jumpers who do the right thing AND have fun). There are the arms and legs (well, these ones just get told to do what they should by the brain and the blindly follow). Then there is the . . . . . (these are the idiots people who just do what the hell they want without listening or caring for themselves or anyone else). - self preservation???? Society in general is creating a mindset of we'll look after you and if you stuff up, we'll blame someone else and get some money off them. There are jumpers with this attitude today. - people with a lack of interest or respect for anything other than themselves and the moment they are living in - continued theme from the point above. To me it's like having ethnic parents and totally ignoring their culture / language / history / etc in an attempt to assimilate totally into the society you live in. It is a personal choice that is up to the individual to make, but I think it is very shallow, lazy, empty, disrespectful, etc. How would you feel if you went in and everyone just said "who the hell was that . . . . and who cares"? - BASE is now where skydiving was. And no matter which way you cut it, it is NOT a good thing when people do things with no understanding. It is just like getting married without truly knowing the one you love. People nowadays don't care because they know they have an easy out - divorce. I'm fine with that, but why the hell do people give forever commitments at the ceremony when there is a great chance they will not follow through. There is not much integrity in that. Why is this relevant? Because modern society has very little understanding or time for the things it does. Just like BASE jumpers. Unless you make some effort to understand what you are doing, why, etc, you will not have true respect for it and you will happily throw it away when it is convenient. Or if it bites you on the arse, and you end up dead / divorced, society will say things like: "it was inevitable", we knew the risks, etc. But does it?????? Do we?????? - QuoteThe writing's on the wall We are the youth gone wild It does not mean it is right. There is freedom, and then there is ignorance. Expressing your freedom by risking your life for little gain is not smart. Risking it for great gain is admirable. Who gives a rats arse if you played frogger with traffic and ended up dead? We already know that running against the traffic will most probably lead to death. So do something more productive. Fly to the moon. Break a world record. Pioneer something. QuoteI'm not trying to deny the last comment, but I don't think it's fair to generalize that the new young jumpers have all those flaws. There are always exceptions. But the reality of today is that people (i.e. jumpers) can do more than ever before . . . . . . . . . . but they understand less. It's kind of like kids today - they can work magic on computers but they do not know how to tell the time on a traditional clock or work out sums in their heads. Is this a bad thing???? That is a matter of opinion. But the fact is, understanding and living the fundamental safety, ethics, and values of BASE jumping is vitally important to keeping any old OR new BASE jumper alive. A triple inward with three twists is great. But if you can't choose sites appropriately, then it does not look so cool!!!!! Quotewhy would you care if someone did not know who Carl Boenish was?? That is how people learn by asking questions. Why was it a good thing there was space between the two of you? would you have been angry? IMHO - First jump students???? That I can understand. But people with a little more experience should have some degree of knowledge of the thing they are participating in. If they say they love the sport, then they should know something about it. Unless it is not the sport they love, unless it is only themselves that they love, then I can understand why they would not know who Carl / DW / JM / etc are. It is similar to a citizen not knowing who there president / prime minister / mayor is. To me it shows a total lack of awareness and respect for the skills, achievements, stewardship, etc of other people in society. And it is much harder to grow as a person, to progress, to become more that what you currently are if you do not know anything about other people. In the end, I think gowaylow is just frustrated in that he wants people to know more and take better care of themselves when BASE jumping. He, like many others, has seen too many people drop dead in front of him. He also sees the potential of so many people who could contribute to our future, but they will not be able to because they will be stuck in a box 6 feet under somewhere. If you have no respect for others, it is extremely difficult to have respect for yourself. Stay Safe Have Fun Good Luck Stay Safe - Have Fun - Good Luck The above could be crap, thought provoking, useful, or . . But not personal. You decide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazydave44 0 #22 October 27, 2006 Of course I understand my equipment. Only a dumb ass would participate in something as extreme as this on a whim. I think everything through, and the more I jump, the more I think about every little detail. Plus I have some great intelligent friends to jump with, and we all usually think things through and jump with a sound mind as a group. I have yet to be on a jump with my crew and not all come together collectively as a whole to make what we consider to be the best decision at the time. Of course when I first started, I was too anxious, and did not always make the best of decisions. I think every jumper goes through this phase. I really do appreciate all of the efforts from the past, and the present. To be quite honest with you, I don't know if I would have been a BASE jumper in the early 80's. In now days standards, and equipment, I feel more confident that it will work. We are basically just participating in a calculated risk now. Where as then, you guys were just hard fucking core. All the props in the world from me to all of you. Thanks!!!________________________________________ "We make our own rules, We pave our own paths, We write our own destinies, We 'live' our own lives" ________________________________________ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JOY 0 #23 October 27, 2006 Hey guys, this is Old Timer Rick Harrison. Great discussion and I totally agree that evolution of BASE and everything in life is inevitable. The newer skills, wing suits, techniques and gear are great. But remember, to be a good leader in any endeavor, politics, spots and BASE, you need to have an understanding of where we've been and how we started in order to know where we should go. This is the only way to prevent repeating mistakes of the past. People like Mick and Tom's sites are as important to this evolution as us old guys since sharing information world wide is critical to positive evolution. Anyway, I do believe being a whole BASE jumper involves more than just having the balls to jump off the edge although that is a big part that separates us from any other in the world. There is a "Spirit" of BASE we all need to hang on to. Rick Harrison BASE 38.[email protected] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowaylow 0 #24 October 27, 2006 Thanks Tom, That was very well articulated and the point that I was wanting to get across but just did not put it all together as well as you did. I remember the day we were all jumping past DW hanging on the wall at the eagels nest. I had a 90 left and he yelled no room over here mate. lesson learned! If DW is hanging from nylon on a wall find another wall to jump. Have a GoWayLow dayHave a GoWayLow day Naked BASE #7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calvin19 0 #25 October 27, 2006 Quote . Hopefully the young people build the proper respect for this sport, but it is their destiny to take it where they wish to take it. Steve, I think that the young ones are and will write their own respect for the sport. the young ones, like me, are already teaching new young ones. I will alway respect the Pioneers, and i will always practice BASE with repect as i wa taught from a pioneer, but man, i dono whats going to happen. -SPACE- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
