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Our rules are not perfect, but nevertheless a decent tool. By placing more responsibility with the instructor on site, the KNVvL aims to solve the flaws without over-regulating. Yes and no. If you are (for instance) a competitive swooper who is capable of this WL 1.8 at 850 jumps, you can ask for (and probably get) an exemption to the rules. The other example, if you make your 1000th jump and suddently want to go and jump something that would be unhelathy for you, the instructor is free to tell you you are not jumping. Of course, you could just grab your gear and try somewhere else, but I'm guessing that the kind of person who does this kind of stuff is on the radar way before the 1000th jump - and the Dutch Chief Instructors do communicate. That's one of the advantages of being a country with a small number of DZs. "That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom

First, the reasoning is that if you managed not to kill yourself in 1000 jumps (which are typically made over a longer period of time than in the US due to weather) you must have some active brain cells somewhere. If not, and you DO consider a radical change as in your example, it is up to the instructor and indeed your friends to beat some sense into you. Furthermore, there is indeed some leeway, as well as some furhter limitations: Paraphrased rom elsewhere in the rules: Any instructor can permit an individual to jump a canopy which is one size smaller than the "Kompasroos" allows, provided that the other requirements are met. "Other requirements" include "jumps in the past twelve months", a number which steadily increases as you want to progress to a higher category. On top of that every Dutch swoopgod wannabe for whom these regulations are too restrictive is free to petition the KNVvL to grant them an exception. "That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom

Solo freefall /small Freefall formations: pull at 3000 ft C&P: 2500 ft. "That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom

uhhh ok. I must be extremely lucky then, having survived nearly 1000 jumps on a Spanish Crossfire No worries, you're only at risk if you're American. "That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom

Technicality: The Navigator is actually a hybrid. Zepo topskin, F1-11 bottom skin. The flare power should not suffer over time as much as with an all F-111 canopy. "That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom

Agreed. "That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom

That would be open for debate. Many bigger DZ's have a "GTF out when you're told, or ride the plane down"-policy. "That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom

Sounds plausible to me...I'm guessing AFF student. After almost ten years I can imagine that the facts and corresponding altitudes get pretty jumbled in a her head. I probably would have asked her whether she had in the neighbourhood of 5, 50 or 500 jumps and would have taken it from there.

Very well then, perhaps the windtunnel is a better example.

I bet the air-busdrivers said the same when flight simulator training became available. "That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom

The SL/round-comment was not intended as an answer to your question. It came from an....experienced....jumper trying to indicate how much easier kids have it today when compared to Ye Olde Days when they themselves were starting out. . However SL-instruction can be both physically and mentally demanding if there are a lot of students and too few jumpmasters. CREW-dogs usually pack for themselves because, yes the way you pack a CREW-canopy is different. How different depends on the setup of the canopy. In general, you have to be extra careful with a few of the packing steps, as the so-called 'retractable bridle'-system is prone to damaging the canopy if you pack it incorrectly. I am not a TI, so I leave it up to one of them to answer that part of your question. "That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom

You'd might like to look into Freestyle. Unlike any other discipline it's purely about the aerobatics themselves. Teams typically consisted of one performer and one cameraperson. "That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom

The amount of time I need to open a door / to exit is inversely proportional to the amount of people telling me to get a f*cking move on. Funny how that works.. "That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom

Boy, was it ever... Incidentally, the experienced people with their handcherchief-sized mains all landed 7-9 km off. I'm not disagreeing with you though; 3.5Kft is the best exit altitude for SL. Did anyone actually know how to calculate the exit point for a high altitude opening/cross country jump? It takes a little bit more than guess work.... I would have let them walk home.... Sigh... No, it was one big zoo dive; three caravans full of Mad Skillz irresponsible Skygods who did and do not know wat they were doing and should have talked to their instructor's instructors. Of course there were lessons learned.. that doesn't mean it isn't a good bonfire story, especially as it happened at a boogie almost a decade ago. "That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom

You "must" nothing.

Boy, was it ever... Incidentally, the experienced people with their handcherchief-sized mains all landed 7-9 km off. I'm not disagreeing with you though; 3.5Kft is the best exit altitude for SL. "That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom

You could do a SL jump from any altitude, no problem. The problem for a student being under canopy at that altitude is: Where you will end up landing. With the wind behind you, you could fly 7 or 8 miles. No one is going to let you do that. Actually... I've been on a three caravan cross-country hop 'n pop where they'd let the staticliners with a few jumps under their belts join in. The spot was waaaaaay long, so the person who ended up landing closest to the DZ was a staticliner. He landed a mere three km short of the DZ. "That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom

Almost agree: If the 4-way are any kind of decent people, they would offer to pay for the solo's slot and buy beer at the end of the day. If they don't want to pay for the jumper's slot, they get off the plane and as far as I am concerned can remanifest - at the back of the queue "That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom

You might want to consider asking this in the Women's forum. But making an appointment with your doctor would seem a logical first step. "That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom

I'm largely dependent on public transport and walking. So I always use a 90L trekking backpack. I am unsure of the exact translation but you'll find them at your local outdoor shop. This kind of backpack is way better for your body than your average shoulder-straps-only backpack because the weight sits on your hips instead of your neck and shoulders. "That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom

First I thought this was some enhanced pull out straight pin. But I bridald at the spelling of bridle so I left it at that. Let's take it to the bonfire.

1. Define malfunction. They broadly fall in two categories. a) There are nuisances which can usually be fixed, such as line twists. b) there are true malfunctions, which cannot. Examples are torn fabric (rare) and broken lines, but also those same line twists at a lower altitude. Jumper experience is a vast contributor for determining how a malfunction is/should be dealt with. All skydivers will experience (let alone see) many different malfunctions over their career. The vast majority of these are fixable, some lead to the skydiver going to their reserve while a minority lead to an injury. An even smaller minority leads to a fatality. But in all cases it's not just the malfunction which causes the injury/fatality. There is always a 'chain of events', a combination of unfortunate/contributing circumstances. 2. That very much depends on the malfunction and the situation and the jumper involved. It is impossible to answer this with a blanket statement. 3, 4, 6 I have personally witnessed and experienced scores of different types of malfunctions, with many different outcomes. Which should I evaluate here? 5. I have used perhaps 50 different parachutes (including rental / borrowed gear) so far; some I just used once, others I used hundreds of times and still have, others I used hundreds of times and sold, and one I had for eight years, but never used before I traded it......but I have ~800 jumps total. Parachutes can last for thousands of jumps, depending on how carefully they are treated, what they are used for and on luck. 7. - I use a Storm 190 for freefall, - I use a Lightning 160 for Canopy Formation or a Lightning 176 when jumping with newer CF-jumpers - I have a Techno 190 reserve. - Parachute sizes are given in sq. ft. - I weigh around 210-215 lbs while fully geared up. Skydivers use the term 'Wingload' (parachute surface divided by suspended weight) to indicate the speed and performance of a parachute. I am out of my depth trying to accurately explain this concept in English and too lazy to search for it; if you want to know more I'm sure someone will pipe up. "That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom

You gotta appreciate the irony here. Now back to my popcorn. "That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom

I'm going to try again: - Mae West - At the risk of getting lost in translation again: baton-pass - DC-3 - And dare I say: RW?

Thanks for the clarification.