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Thanks for the Shout out. You missed a great Sat, perfect weather, Emiko made a recurrency jump from the Otter, Flew the next Otter load, then made a great BBQ for everyone. SunSet pond swooping, Hot Tub, bonfire.

Fayard quoted me the lexan door with field approval, Others could build it but no STC or field approval paperwork. I contacted any real players and it was 7k or no paperwork.

Ill jump on that argument. I think we do achieve lift in a Max Track. Nothing compaired to the performance achieved by an aircraft wing or a wingsuit but by improving our body position we can increase lift at points on our body. When I nail my track I think I can feel the lift bubble on the back of my neck, shoulders, top of my rig. Do Ski Jumpers make lift on there body position other than plank deflection? Now my answer to head position, each persons body, position, angles, will be different in the track so the exact position of the head will be different to achieve the max lift. A 4 way out of a 182, 180 and max it out. Jumping with a lot of others, look where your going. I say work on finding the max and keep it handy.

Since its go big or go home. GE90-115B World Record 127,900lbs of thrust. dry weight 18,260lbs.

One more for the Gear Heads.. Should I just put an R-985 on it instead?

Past due on target rollout date. Good thing I didnt hold my breath. Engine mount being fabricated and fusealge being reinforced.

The Fall is Free, The plane ride is expensive. If you dont believe me, Buy your own plane, then see what your rides to alt realy cost. A $25 airplane ride is cheap. Do I sound bitter after loosing $12k on a Sat. load 2?

Nothing in Aviation happens as fast as we want it too but it is moving fwd. Firewall fittings are being attached to the firewall. Engine mount is being fabricated on the jig.

The Tail Low taxi in 69 or newer 206s indicates that the CG is near the aft limit. At the aft limit the aircraft will have reduced drag for climb, and give the best glide in engine out concerns. Watch the elevator / horizontal, If they are faired in together, the aircraft is balanced well for the airspeed. The 206 uses a elevator down spring to alow the Horizontal/elevator to create a Lift Vector in the Up direction when at aft CG. Like a Canard aircraft (bacwards). Now we dont want to be over gross weight or aft of the aft CG limit. An aircraft that is at Gross with paying payload and at the aft CG limit is the most effecient jumpers per hour and cost effecient for the operator.

a light weight 206 weighs 1825lbs empty. The Gross weight is 3600lbs, Pilot +Parachute 200, + 6 jumpers at 200 = 1400 lbs. 240lbs of fuel for 3 loads + res to 13K. Each seat belt attach point is good for 250lbs untill F model then only 200lbs. POH says "Room for Pilot and 5 Jumpers" Is this a limitation? most stock engine and wing 206s do not climb well to alt with 6 jumpers.

The U206 was certified single pilot with only the left controls. The right controls are an Option and removing them and installing the Cessna parts to configure the aircraft to TCD is a minor or major alteration (Depending on the FAA guy your dealing with) but Cessna gives you the data so an IA can sign it off without STC. Inflight doors, handles, Steps etc. People used to do the work and get it through the FAA, now the FAA is putting tougher road blocks, DER reports, no one wants to sign anything anymore. Drop Zones dont start with a lot of money, now they need the mech and insp to sign paperwork that will probably come back to them for little benifit. Enough time and money you can get it all done. Alot of Time an money.

The POH says that a person in the back can hold the switch to lower the flaps. A little far for the pilot to reach after all the jumpers have gone so the cover plate works better.

No STC because it was originaly certified for skydiving by the manufacture. Look in the POH and see the operating section "Skydiving". Were is your pilot? Make him read the book. Just remove the seats, cargo doors, and install spoiler. Dont forget the log book entry and Weight and balance.

Gross weight increase in an underpowered 206 would just slow you down. I can W&B 6 jumpers and pilot with 3 loads of fuel + reserve. Not much room left so She better be a cute little girl if you were going to try and add more in the cabin.

The 206 doesnt get a gross increase off of the wing x. It will increase performance takeoff performance, climb performance, reduce landing speeds. (Sportsman Stol + wing x is the favored 206 float plane wing mod) Sportsman Stol will do the same but alow the pilot a wider L/D curve giving a more usefull best rate of climb speed range. "makes a 500 hour pilot look like a 1200 hour pilot". 150ft per min ROC increase after takeoff or to 8 grand doesnt make sense for the money but if your only getting 200fpm above 10K that 100fpm makes all the difference in the world for the pilot to hit target alt at exit point. Reduces the number of 360s at alt) When the engine quits at 500ft with a full load the Sportsman and wing x could be priceless. Now the 550 w 82inch Super Simitar, roller rockers, Gammied fuel injection, Leading edge exhaust, light weight alt, cost more than my first house. Since my wife and I fly my 206s we love the extra performance. Only some days it is really nessesary. One of our 206s has 14,000 hours flying skydivers in the Mojave desert so shaving of a couple of minutes per load realy adds up. Most 206s dont climb because its a larger wide body 182 with a few more ponys from the same powerplant. It takes a lot of time and money to make them climb.

Graphic engine monitor with fuel flow. The engine monitor will alow them to run best power or just enough rich of best power to keep the engine cool and climbing. The pilots will learn how to fly with out too much extra fuel. The 206 with 40 gals a side can hide a lot of fuel.

Airliners.net has a bunch of skydiving U206 photos with large porches on them. No detailed photos of the attachments. I want to use the fwd (shin buster) step to carry the wait and grap the seat track for leveage. Havent done it yet, keep saying I will.

Thats a Cal City "Cut" photo. If you didnt open the door at the Green light you would get a good shaking from the Rudder.

Looks like the Mech didnt finish it because of that nice headliner.

Look at the Weight and Balance paper work. WingX and Sportsman / Horton / etc. will required a change to the empty weight and empty weight cg and in the Wing X case on a 182 a gross weight increase. I know that the WingX and Sportsman do not increase the forward or aft limit of the CG envelope.

Yep, I got a slow Otter with -20s. PM me if you have any questions.

Nearly all the parts will be the same rivet for rivet. Just building new ones since production stopped in the 80s. They state some lighter composite parts, avionics, -34s.

Im going to need a turbine on the front of my 206s to power that step to altitude. My handles were in the T&J leasing inflight door STC. Dont think you can find them anymore but you can look it up on the FAA web site.

If you are in the Bush and trying to fuel a high wing plane out of 55 gal drums you would have to work harder hand pumping the fuel to that height. I used to know the math. The belly tanks limit how high you have to raise the fuel. Less work. Boost pumps in the tanks do the rest of the work to the engines.