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  1. There was no Barracuda available back then :-) So yeah, back then, I did take all of the available suits in that class. Today yes you have that Barracuda and I guess the russian one also. Would I have bought 5 suits? No I would not! I am not suggesting this approach, I just mentioned it because it was interesting to actually test the competitors up against each other and it also turned out to be okay cost effective maybe that part was pure luck however ;-)
  2. its difficult to demo.... so some years ago I actually said F it and actually bought 3 wingsuits of same class with the intent of keeping the one I liked the most and sell off the other two. I purchased the Carve, the Hawk and the Funk. Offcourse its only something you can do if you are willing to accept some loss, but then again, my body size is sort of "standard" and the suits are in that class that normally would sell easely... In the end, I got the suit I wanted and it served me well for years. If I had not done this, I would have chosen a suit based on biased opinions which are very often not useable, which I probably would have sold of sooner.... I am not sure I would do this again, but looking back, I do not think it actually cost me that much when I consider I got a suit that was as perfect for me as could be. If I had not done it I would have probably switched suit much sooner. One comment on grippers and the Tony models, lately the R3 suit as an example has gotten the PIGS system, so grippers are "inside". Could that be used for Acro comp's? I flew the R3 model with grippers and I did not need to hold the small grippers if I did not want to. so I think that their dedicated acro models would behave like this. Grippers are there if you want to grab them, otherwise just forget about them and they are not in the way you wont notice them. I am not into acro so much, but if I where I would probably consider one of the Tony models, they do look acro crisp in the different vid's out there and I know they have some pretty good acro testpilots in their team.
  3. birdynamnam

    Canopy options for wingsuiting?

    this is an old horse you are beating. Sabre1's are fine. Triathlons are fine. And they are! If you like your Tri, then go on. The latest canopies that are truely developed for wingsuiting, is, a step forward, even if you dont like it. THey are better than you tri in many areas. I know, I have 500+ jumps in a tri. You are correct in one area, that PD made commercials suddenly that the Storm was awesome for wingsuiting and they had some pro's push it to people; it turned out it was certainly not one of the better choices So here we are again; the Tri is good for wingsuiting as a low cost choice. The Sabre1 also. Most knows this to be very true. Then the latest designs made directly for wingsuiting purposes; some people (mostly those who fly Tri's and Sabre1's hahaha :-) ) has the opinion for some reason, that those new canopies are just marketing and wasted developments. Most people who knows both sides knows that is not true.
  4. birdynamnam


    I would ask Phoenix-Fly first before mod'ing anything
  5. just use the normal Expert Cypres. Adjust the activation heigth up a bit. That's all.
  6. birdynamnam

    Canopy options for wingsuiting?

    I am a wingsuit'er - but more than that I am a canopy guy. Not affiliated with anyone of the makers. I want the best, so I tried all the canopies and learn not from forums but from actual flying them. IMO the Winx is the best. The P7 or P9 would be my second choice. Not into F-111 anymore and yes they ones you mention is flying pretty much as you say. Have not tried the Kraken, it looks very interesting indeed having several novel features and having owned and loved Icarus canopies previously I will sooner or later try it out. PS the Kraken is looking rectangular:
  7. birdynamnam

    Canopy options for wingsuiting?

    would love to try out the Kraken, having owned their canopies previously. They are experts on soft ultra soft openings so interesting to see if they got this one right for wingsuiting. I found the Pilot7 really boring compared to the Winx. Big difference in flying experience. We have'nt seen any chops of P7's here at all. It's primarely Storms that gets chopped I think we have ~ 60% Winx's, 20% P7's and the rest is Pilot9s Spectres Storms and Sabres and then a single Epicene user
  8. birdynamnam

    Canopy options for wingsuiting?

    absolutely, with any canopy if WL is high dives and then chop's will happen. Uneven risers due to bad body position during deployment, reaching for risers before appropriate. If you want a chop you can get it
  9. birdynamnam

    Canopy options for wingsuiting?

    sure. however I would recommend the 9c's Pilot9 or Sabre2s over the 7c Storm. Spectres are fine for sure
  10. birdynamnam

    Canopy options for wingsuiting?

    exactly. I just have one jump in the P7 and I felt the long snive phase and then also the more abrupt final stage. Thats why I say that Atair really got this perfect, the almost non existing snivel, then a smooth and relatively soft final phase under full control. What I also like about the Winx is that it is trimmed flat so if you get linetwists it tends to just hang there over your head and does not easely get aggressive
  11. birdynamnam

    Canopy options for wingsuiting?

    true, but the slider is not necessary unless you came over to a WinX from a e.g. Crossfire and want the same'ish. Winx opens very soft and without the final "bang" of a Pilot7. Pilot7 has some snivel ehich can help jumpers that did not have the optimal bodyposition at deployment. Winx has very little snivel, but opens softer. To sum up, some pilots might find the Winx opens hard if they do not feel the difference btw no to short snivel and a generally hard opening canopy. I think Atair did a sublime job on this. That said if I where a freeflyer, I would go Crossfire But I am always dressed up in a promdress unless weather dictates terminal jumps
  12. birdynamnam

    Canopy options for wingsuiting?

    Atair designed the canopy with wingsuiting in mind yup - but is is a great alround canopy. You should try it. The fact remains: some uses it for general purposes and as I said, It opens as great doing terminals as great as my former PD chutes and there is no issues at all. It does not open as soft as a Icarus Crossfire, for sure, but it is very comparable to other similar designs. I read through the manual, it says nothing of "Only for wingsuiting". Description from the manual: " WinX - 9-cell performance in 7-cell canopy! WinX - the latest addition to the Atair canopy range is designed for skydivers who need a canopy that has soft, consistent and reliable on-heading openings for wingsuit flying, but also enjoys more aggressive, high performance canopy rides. WinX is a 7–cell zero-P semi-elliptical canopy, built on the quality foundations built by our earlier products: Radical, a 9-cell elliptical, and Dragon, a tapered 7-cell. The result is a 7-cell canopy that flies like a 9-cell elliptical. WinX is extremely fun to fly at high wing loadings, being very responsive to toggle input, but at the same time rock stable in straight flight and turns. At light to moderate wing loadings, it’s a great transitional canopy for novice or medium experience skydivers. The great glide performance will bring you home even if the spot was way off, and plenty of lift during the flare enables great, easy landings from a straight in approach. If you like to swoop, the WinX will be more than happy to oblige. With a low pull force on the front risers, moderate recovery arc and a long, powerful flare, it’s guaranteed to make you smile. WinX was designed using specialist design software, used to analyse low speed airfoils and wings. With the use of advanced airfoil shaping techniques, it’s possible to transfer a 3D design in to a 2D cut of canopy fabric panels. This results in a parachute that maintains its designed airfoil shape throughout the whole wingspan during flight. These techniques also give a thinner profile, which has resulted in a reduced packing volume. As with all of our canopies, our class-leading manufacturing standards, and high grade zero porosity fabric guarantee a parachute that will maintain its superb performance for hundreds of jumps. NOTE: WINX IS NOT A BASE CANOPY! IT IS FOR SKYDIVING USE ONLY! " I have another piece of gear that actually says that it is only for wingsuiting: the Sunpath Aurora rig.
  13. birdynamnam

    Canopy options for wingsuiting?

    yeah I went from a Storm 150 to a Winx 150 ZP, so well all one can say they main container got soft(er) and the closing loop got tigth
  14. birdynamnam

    Canopy options for wingsuiting?

    I read this reg the WinX "packing size" from time to time, and it is STIL wrong... An example: A Winx 150 normal ZP packs roughly 5-10% smaller than a PD Spectre 150 or a PD Storm 150. I did this upgrade, and that is why I know this. Pls do not spread false facts that it somehow packs big'ish compared to similar designs. I jump it terminal from time to time. no issues. no hard openings. Openings are swift, but still soft and controlled. It's just that the snivel phase is very short. The next stage is in fact very very soft and totally controlled. Also I and others did not know it was not meant to be used for other jump types.... Many people do. I know a vivid freeflyer that used it for this regularely. Pls only post facts
  15. birdynamnam

    Canopy options for wingsuiting?

    Many fly the Atair Winx as do I. I concur on the Storm, we had loads of cutt's on that. IMO the Atair Winx is No 1. I tried the Pilot 7 also, but the Winx has it. Brilliant canopy