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  1. Yes, I would. Directly from their website: "Odyssey Evo is a great example of how Evo platform raises the bar for non-cross-braced canopies to the level of ultra high performance wings". I have to note here that what they refer to "ultra high performance" mainly applies to high wingloading over 2 and even closer to 2.5. This wing is a great stepping stone to CB canopies and flies great at lower WL around 1.8-2.0 (I fly it at 1.8 and that's exactly why I went with this canopy). IMHO there is no point in loading it lower than that. From what I know so far this wing loves to be loaded though and full potential is realized at high WL.
  2. No they don't and pictures they have are not at an angle to see the planform, but it is schuemann -
  3. ??? Really? Did you actually try to stall it? I find some wings give you much stronger “toggle resistance” earlier than others but often it’s deceptive and the wing wouldn’t stall till much deeper/later. Also doesn’t it mess it with your FR inputs? Sorry never flown a fully CB wing yet, just curious
  4. Thanks a lot for the feedback man, really helps!
  5. How does it perform on a lighter wingloading (around 1.8)? I am currently jumping the original Odyssey 120 at around 1.55 and feel like it's not loaded enough, flies great and overall great canopy, but I would like a bit more oomph out of it. So considering either getting another Odyssey 110 (1.7 WL) or Odyssey EVO 105 (1.8). How would these two canopies compare? This season i started to dedicate more jumps specifically to canopy flight and taking canopy courses, next season's plan is to dial in those 90's and make a transition to 270's by the end of the season, so looking for an appropriate canopy for the goals. My thinking is that Evo 105 should be a good transition canopy to a crossbraced canopy after a couple of seasons (as in Evo 105 - crossbraced 90 for example) as getting anything over 90 would mean WL less than 2.0 which is not optimal for crossbraced. But I am not sure if Od-120 to Evo-105 is a good step. Would love to hear your opinion.
  6. Had the same problem with magnetic keeper. Put slider tabs on the risers but they only hold the front side down (and still not ideal). After a bit of research went on with the ball/elastic band approach, but a bit modified - I have a ball on the top of the yoke and installed a small loop on the bottom of my slider (at the center) to put an elastic band in (regular stow band cut in half to be able to easily break in case of a chop) - I am loving it! I don't even collapse my slider anymore - after opening pull on the center of the slider, roll it around itself 2 or 3 times and put the elastic band on the ball behind your back - very tight and I practically forgot about that annoying slider. Plus, don't need to do anything with the slider before you pack - just take the band off the ball - ready to pack. Ordered my new canopy with a removable slider before I tried this setup, now thinking I should have gotten a regular slider and simply do the same thing.. Here's a recent video, just scroll to 1:04 to see what I mean: Edit to add: I understand you are talking about detachable slider, the setup I'm explaining will solve the issue without needing to collapse it.
  7. I am wondering what is a good camera for recording landings from LZ? With so many available I'm looking for something affordable but don't want to miss out on required specs. I know it has to have a good optical zoom, anything else? And for the zoom - what is good? X5? X10? X40? Don't want to overpay for features I don't need.. Every life comes with a death sentence. Until then, who's in charge?
  8. Interesting topic. When I first moved from rounds to squares, and before I learned how to PRO and eventually psycho pack, I used to flat pack. In that packing sequence, the entire canopy was folded into a d-bag wide "sausage" with its top end into the d-bag before I even move the slider up right before s-folding everything into the bag. While I did quarter the slider and tucked its center into the pack job, I used to grab its quarters sticking out in between the line groups and WRAPED THOSE AROUND THE BOTTOM OF THE PACKJOB pulling those upwards a bit to ensure slider grommets are against the stops at all times. So, essentially my slider was covering the bottom of my pack job and not the other way around, so the slider was always the first thing exposed during the opening. Can't remember having any problems with openings with that method. Not taking any sides here - just something I forgot about and this thread brought this up to my attention. I do find it interesting though that PD explicitly shows SE pack job as "WRONG" - given their unparalleled reasearch and testing capacity I never questioned their recommendations.
  9. When you're flying internationally with your rig in a carry on and border security asks you to open your reserve: Every life comes with a death sentence. Until then, who's in charge?
  10. Great videos and awesome explanation! Thanks a lot! Every life comes with a death sentence. Until then, who's in charge?
  11. Got it, thanks for the input bud! Every life comes with a death sentence. Until then, who's in charge?
  12. Sorry, forgot to answer this part. Well, I am trying to do all my canopy exercises with my wing/harness setup being the same as my landing configuration. You are practicing stalls to drive into your muscle memory exactly where that point is and not to overdo with it when performing your landing. My stall point with my chest strap tight might be a bit different. Also, I find with my chest strap lose I have less likelihood of linetwists, or at least less severe linetwists. The linetwists I get are not as severe as on the video mentioned above and I kick out of those much faster, and that could be different if my risers were closer together. There are a few other reasons why you might possibly need to chop a canopy that opened and flew normally, even without deliberate stalls, and since I am flying my canopy with my chest strap lose I was wondering about the risk of falling out of the harness if this happens. Every life comes with a death sentence. Until then, who's in charge?
  13. Deimian, my line of though is exactly like yours as I too loosen my chest strap only after popping my toggles as a last step and exactly for the same reasons. Although technically even with brake line problems (depending on severity and my canopy behavior of course) I should be able to pilot and land my canopy on rear risers, I am not yet comfortable with the technique and this is also in my list of things to practice on. As for practicing stalls, I am not doing it "out of boredom". I am getting more into canopy piloting and this is a standard exercise you should be able to do on any new canopy you are flying. The only thing I am not so sure about is whether I should take it to the extreme and fully stall my canopy (which results in uneven recovery and possibility of linetwists) or simply get my canopy to the stall point to feel where it is and get it back flying right away without fully stalling it. My understanding was that I should be able to perform a controlled full stall of any canopy I am piloting but I might be wrong. And yes, of course by "low" I mean "lowest safe altitude". I stop all messing around at 600 m. Every life comes with a death sentence. Until then, who's in charge?
  14. intentional stall, unintentional uneven input and linetwists.. Sorry, I don't get the reference.. I actually don't know if it's uneven toggle input or something else.. I used to do full stalls no problem and fly my canopy backwards (we called it "butterfly") until bored or low. On my current canopy, which is admittedly smaller then the others I tried it on, I get consistent surges of the canopy to the right (right side of the tail stalls and goes backwards before the left one, so asymmetrical stall resulting in the linetwists). I actually try to pay attention to make my input even, however get the same result every time. Here's a video that is not mine but I get exactly the same thing: And coming back to the chest strap thing, is that a valid concern and if it is, how to minimize/eliminate that risk? Every life comes with a death sentence. Until then, who's in charge?