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Thanks Uschi we feel special

what no pond?? ooooh those bastards!!

how you liking the hills chuck?

good luck Steve. ill be thinking of you guys while im here in Austria you too D. have fun and remember you do it because its FUN

you can do it man just use the power of the force.

Apology accepted. just couldnt resist having a dig at my buddy just to comment on the PD wingloading chart. when you get into the smaller sized canopies ten pounds does make a far greater impression on the flight characteristics than if you were on a larger canopy for the simple reason that there is less material above your head. What drives a canopy is the weight underneith it and knowing a few of the PD folks and being a big fan of the company i know they tend towards the conservative side for canopy recomendation as they should.

A no pull scenario? not sure i follow

i was actually talking to Ian (ntacfreefly) and indirectly defending you keep the sourcasm for someone else and make sure you read who the reply was to.

didnt you chop a tension knot a little while ago Mr body position???

Just so you know this is not unique to miniforce risers. you can acheive the same flip through with any risers if you try. especially tandems.

Ive heard rumors and i am keen to see myself but i think they have something in the pipeline that will blow competition swoop wings out the water.

Hey Chris you have been informed and you know the risks albeit you may not understand them so good luck. Just so you know i am now in Europe about to start my third year at the world swooping championships where i have medalled at all meets i have attended. I know many people who have progressed differently but i learned to swoop on a BIG canopy and if you want to scare yourself under canopy you can on anysize canopy.. if you are intimidated by normal flying conditions on your current wing then you will not progress as you would if you had the confidence to explore the flight characteristics of the wing. so to put it correctly by throwing yourself in the deep end of a sink or swim situation you will progress much slower in this situation. did you download the articles from scott miller? food for thought. if you want more speed out of your canopy learn how to fly it properly instead of downsizing. I rarely post on this stuff because it is so common but i am bored in a hotel room waiting for the weather to improve good luck man

The difference is not drastic but i have many cutaways on both Aerodyne and regular riings (intentional and actual mals). There is a noticable difference. If you were a 100lb girl or boy it is a very pleasant difference and far more noticable. it is especially noticable at higher loadings and in a hard turn. the system is not supposed to replace or revolutionize the current system but to add a little extra to a rig design setting it apart from the many different designs out there.

Hey Chris I am with Ian and Laura on this. IT is a very common misconception that wingloading alone is enough to be a deciding factor in choosing a canopy. Especially at the early stages in jump careers. A spectre 210 loaded at 1.0 will not fly like a spectre 135 at 1.0 it does not just scale down. there are many other factors that influence flight characteristics than wingloading alone. the best thing i can recomend (apart from immediately upsizing before hospitalising) is to go to PD's website and read and download articles from Scott Miller about wingloading and canopy choice. best of luck and hopefully you wont need it.

I agree Chuck When i first qualified for the PST it was the requisite to be able to negotiate a carve course consistently and at the entry level i found it very challenging. to do it well is very technical. to fly the most efficient line and approach is very technical. and i feel it should be part of any event. however the reasons stated in my previous post are the ones i was told so i put my feelings aside and get on with doing what i love and flying whatever course i have to. it does seem like a step back in difficulty to go to straight speed and i hope they will change it back.

I apologise if i upset you or your friend but i dont appreciate comments about my friends like that. if anyone thinks jim is getting rich off of this thing then all you have to do is look at the shack he lives in and the piece of shit he drives. I have utmost respect for him because he benefits very little from the amount of work that he does to organise all of these events. All the prize monies come from the dropzones that host the events. my original although somewhat distorted point was that The reason he went to straight speed, as told to me anyways, was to facilitate much quicker course changes. ie speed to accuracy to distance. all the same course markers can be used and it takes less time. I wondered the same thing and that is the answer i got. Now if you still have a problem with what i am saying then look me up at the next swoop meet and i will be happy to discuss it over tea and crumpetts

Why dont you just keep your head in your ass and leave the discussion for the adults. The course change has to do with the length of time it takes to set up a carve course Vs a straight course. simple.

yes jc has a 117 made from sail material. you will need a student rig to fit it in

ok ok. but when everyone thinks it is the gayest move ever i will be sure to remind them that it is your move. oh and apart from being extremely gay it is pretty sick too! watch for the spizzarko in the future for when i land the move in competition that is what i will name it!!

bwahahahahahahahaha

or a sugar daddy right?

Well i heard that D likes Stu so what does THAT mean!!

I am not going incidentally. I will be in europe for a month or so. But i will never worry about where i am going to sleep. sleep is for losers! I dare you to figure it out when you get there.

Hey D I would love to help out but i dont plan more than two days in advance.

Let me start by stating that this review of the JVX is meant as a comparison against the other wings I have flown in my competitive canopy-piloting career, it is not a sales pitch for the JVX. Opening Characteristics (based on openings with stock slider not RDS) Snatch: The snatch force (initial sit you up force as canopy comes out of bag) is a little higher than on a velocity and a Xaos but is very reasonable and by no means hard. Snivel: The snivel is not as long as the velocity and is very comfortable, consistently around 600 feet. There is not the really long snivel that is characteristic of the velocities and the Xaos’s I’ve jumped. The JVX does not do the characteristic “seeking” of the velocity during the snivel and is actually a lot like the Xaos staying on heading over 95% of the time. Inflation: The inflation is gradual and totally different from the VX’s extremely quick inflation. The slider comes down at a steady rate without hanging at any point, staying uniquely on heading. Flying Characteristics This is by far the canopy that I have had the most fun with, it is a pleasure to fly having more speed than any canopy I have flown but also having the ability to really hang in brakes. The steep trim gives the canopy a lot of range in both rears and on toggles. Front risers: The front riser pressure is very comparable to a velocity of similar size. I have found that in multiple rotation approaches the canopy does not load up on the fronts and I am able to muscle the canopy down when I am high. The turn rate on fronts is slower than on a velocity. The same amount of input on a velocity of similar size will turn the velocity quicker than the JVX. This is mainly due to the higher aspect ratio of the JVX. Toggles: The toggle pressure is much higher on the JVX than a Xaos or VX as the tail of the canopy is kept very pressurized by the steep trim. This pressure all translates very nicely to lift when transferring to toggles after flying on rear risers. This also means it has a lot of shut down power similar to a velocity. Rear Risers: This is where the JVX is different from any other canopy I have flown; there is more range and power on the rear risers than anything I have experienced before. I am able to stay on the rears longer and further than on any other canopy I have flown. I have also been able to recover from low turns with rears that on any other canopy I would have had to go to toggles to get the necessary input to save my life (not advised under any circumstances). General: Because of the overall design of the canopy—not having stabilizers, stock HMA lines—I am able to build up more speed than on any other canopy I have flown. Altitude loss in a speed induced landing is different whether you get the regular ZP or the sail material. The sail material loses more altitude than the same size JVX in regular ZP material. The altitude loss on the sail material is very comparable to a velocity of similar size maybe even having a slightly longer recovery arc than the velocity. The ZP version has a slightly shorter recovery arc than a similar sized velocity. Having both I prefer the sail material because it has a much greater pack volume allowing me to jump a much bigger reserve and container. Overall I have been very impressed by this canopy having placed second at the world cup with my first JVX and also winning the 2005 PST Swoop festival competing against factory pilots who were flying non-production experimental prototypes not available to the public. I have also done many test jumps on various prototypes from other major manufacturers and swooped competitively for about four years. For further info or questions about this canopy please feel free to pm me