orribolollie

Politics, racism, guns, womens rights.....ill tackle any of those. But a view on a particular religion, sorry not even im that masochistic.

Most people appear to fall in one of two categories here: 1 - ZERO guns forever (unless you are a major actor/actress and lean left) 2 - It's none of my business what other people own Quote Where do you fall?

But if Im not faking my identity and IM not a criminal which im not .... Then why do I have to be fingerprinted? What?? Your simply not answering my question!! Oh well, off topic entirely but I will answer your questions. ID is asked for when you buy tobacco and alcohol becasue there is a minimum age requirement. ID is required when you buy firearms so they can keep a record of gun ownership. Not that that stops getting guns into the wrong hands so its kind of pointless. Right..now can you tell me why 'I' a tourist, a law abiding non identity faking tourist needs to be finger printed. Dont go off topic, answer the question.

Because if the FBI or CIA is doing there job (like you mentioned) they should have a picture and possibly a fingerprint of the people they should be watching. By taking your photo and fingerprint they can compare it to their database (we have the technology to do facial and fingerprint recognition Quote But if Im not faking my identity and IM not a criminal which im not .... Then why do I have to be fingerprinted?

But you can create a fake passport with your photo in it Quote Oh so now your assuming that I might be a criminal again!! And..if the passport is fake how on earth is fingerprinting me going to validate my identity? Why do I need to be fingerprinted?

It is harder to forge a fingerprint and photo then a passport so they are better forms of validation. Do you believe you should even have to present a passport? Quote You crack me up!! Yeah of course you should carry a passport, you know why, becasue you cant forge your face!!! Remember theres a picture of me in my passport. Hence I do not need to have my fingerprints taken (or have a photo taken) cos its exactly the one in my passport. Right so now I have established my identity..by the picture in my passport...why do I need to be fingerprinted?

It doesn't assume you will break the law. If it assumed you will break the law you wouldn't even be let in. Quote Fine. So you tell me exactly why id need to be fingerprinted?

No drugs, no need to be on streets. Simple Quote Agreed! So simple how come the police just cant manage that simple thing?

I'm not sure why it is appalling so long as it is done in a courteous manner and to everyone Quote No!! You shouldnt be so bloody paranoid is what you should be! You see other countries doing this? If your going to have tourists come to your country, let them in as tourists. DO NOT assume them all as having potential to turn rogue. You have the FBI and the intelligence services to work out whoose a significant threat, let them do their job as they have always done. This is typical of the fearmongering nonsense of the bush administration

I'm not sure why it is appalling so long as it is done in a courteous manner and to everyone Quote Its appaling because it assumes youll break the law. Welome to the United States of America..the greatest free(est) society on the planet. Please queue here for your fingerprints. I dont suppose you get fingerprinted to enter Iraq!

Ok...so why are criminals fingerprinted? Becasue they can be recognised in the future as criminals. So, why fingerprint a tourist? So they can be recognised when they commit crime. Appaling.

Hahaha..still appaling really, what a way to be welcomed having saved up for your long awaited holiday to San fran / New York..whereever....

Quote Odd that you dont need a visa but need your fingerprints and photo?? So, uncle sam thinks: A brit is more likely to come to the states to commit acts of terrorism and crime rather than look for black market work?? haha

I have learnt from a previous thread that British nationals (and others Id guess), have to be fingerprinted and photographed to enter the US? Just wondered what everyone, well especially those of you from the US thought of this?

Nahh..im actually just really sick (like physically)..have had flu and now tonsilitus the last twelve god damn bored and pissed off days..hence the forum assaults. Everynow and then I just crash....but woe be tied when i return to full strength.

well..anyhow lets not forget they werent so much criminals as murder victims!

You do not have to understand to disapprove. I don't understand why some people do some things (and sometimes they don't either) and yet I can and still disapprove of them sometimes Quote Then for you ignorance is truely bliss!

but you can determine more long lasting corrections if you understand. As long as we, first, always make sure the individual is responsible for their personal actions (no matter what excuses they have, no matter how heartbreaking their story). Quote Ok, so what about the case of a street walking heroin addict? She got herself there until she sorts her act out, tough?

Sure, you can still dissaprove IF you understand.

Im not talking about a poor upbringing or stress. Did you read the list? I mean read it not scan through going boy oh boy another whinger

The other pertinent statistic is that not all drug addicts are prostitutes, and of course nobody is forcing young women to do drugs, that starts with a choice in a society with no shortage of warnings on the topic. Quote I see!!! So britain (americas greatest ally, 'gee thanks'!) is on the terrorist suspect list, but not the canadians!!! This gets weirder and weirder. Maybe its because they have you guys all bugged and traced already

The other pertinent statistic is that not all drug addicts are prostitutes, and of course nobody is forcing young women to do drugs, that starts with a choice in a society with no shortage of warnings on the topic. Quote I can only imagine you have been lucky enough to be brought up in a motivated, informed home. Im not knocking that, I was to. The reason I have empathy for these girls is that my Dad has worked in Child Care most of his adult life. As a result I have been privy to the desperate and tragic circumstances that lead these girls to work on the street. Some of the reasons include and are not limited to; little or zero parenting, exposure to and sexual /physical abuse from shockingly young ages, exposure to drugs from shockingly young ages, constant displacement (care homes, foster placements, shelters, incarceration), total lack of education because of the later. This combination of events in a young persons life has terrible repercusions. They dont trust, they are simply unable to help themselves, they have no life skills; the kind of life skills you and I take for granted every day. By the time they start work on the streets pretty much that cycle is impossible to break. How could they get a job for example? They may have no fixed abode, they have no references, no qualifications, they have poor health a history of sheltered housing and likely criminal records. The same goes for getting housing. No references, DHS income (if that), no money. These are truely desperate people; if you have no empathy at least be thankful that your life was so very different. Fucked daily by freaks then strangled. Awful.

the next day soy on the COCK Quote YUCK!!!!! GAG...surely thats a good enough arguement for SOY making gay guys straight!!!!

No sorry, RTA, road traffic accident. Do you know the 'assumption' acronym hahah..sorry

the chute colour wasn't what they showed in the course Quote Shouldn't laugh, but, you know.