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Probably so. I can't imagine why a detractor would bother to send a PM. Why not just have an open discussion ...SC-style? Also, I do like to make a distinction between a disagree-er and a detractor.

Suggest you avoid posting in Speakers Corner, then. The people who send me those supportive PMs there I like a lot

Suggest you avoid posting in Speakers Corner, then. The people who send me those supportive PMs there I like a lot

Sorry, not talking about you...just the combination of words... A picture just popped into my mind of a nosy old biddy calling the cops to complain about oral sex going on in the house next door. I did not call the cops! I was trying to order a pizza and the distraction must have caused me to mis-dial. (No! ...it was not a pocket-dial, either! )

Great point! ...and similarly, if Hitler had only stayed inside Germany's borders until all the Jews were incinerated "the world" wouldn't have to deal with the problems in the Middle East that we have today. No one really would have had a right to interfere there as long as they kept their internal laws and "cultural" rituals to themselves. (Well, Iran is sponsoring foreign terrorist groups and other "freedom fighters".) Oh man, unfortunately, I never met Hitler. What did he tell you about the Middle East? My post wasn't about the ME ...it was about meddling in another country's internal affairs. And just to clarify, by "No one really would have had a right to interfere there .....", I meant pre-ww2 Germany, not the ME. (In case that was causing some confusion).

Great point! ...and similarly, if Hitler had only stayed inside Germany's borders until all the Jews were incinerated "the world" wouldn't have to deal with the problems in the Middle East that we have today. No one really would have had a right to interfere there as long as they kept their internal laws and "cultural" rituals to themselves. (Well, Iran is sponsoring foreign terrorist groups and other "freedom fighters".)

That problem should eventually take care of iTself.

I haven't heard of a single complaint from a single Chinese iAssembler at a single Chinese iSweatshop. They are probably very grateful to have their Jobs.

A new beginning for Egypt. Such a lovely country ...especially this time of year! "We need unity more than any other time before," Information Minister Osama Heikal told state television.

Very few of my kids give a shit about my skydiving Some of their lives are way more extreme than mine My kid (now 14) spent just about every weekend of the first 6 years of his life hanging out at Zhills. Skydiving (and skydivers) never impressed him and he still has no opinion, good or bad. He doesn't have an aversion to it ...just not impressed at all. I've even suggested that he take some of my own equipment and videos for show-and-tell at school and it obviously wasn't cool enough for him to bother with it. (He did have some interest in the planes, though.)

You left out "PULL!"

That's not a "death panel" ...it's a "kill panel". Subtle difference there.

You need a more progressive anti-virus.

A single web forum post does not constitute an official platform. It could even be from a conservative operative looking to discredit the movement. No, this is their "official" website. What you see here is the problems of not having an actual agenda or clue. This laundry list of demands is what happens when you have a large committee and a large stash of weed. And for all these items, they missed the bit about corporate greed or reducing their influence over policy making. Though I think it's funny that they are exercising their 1st amendment rights to protest, but having a problem when others do the same. WTF! ...No Cheetos on the list!?

Actually it didn't end as bad as I expected after the loss of Brantley. I thought it would be high scoring on both sides. I expected that the Gators might sort out their offense problems over half-time but the injury shut that hope down. Bama did a great job of neutralizing Rainey and Demps. I think the primary focus on them is really what allowed the early TD to happen. And what a way for freshman Driskel to get initiated ...Alabama and LSU, back-to-back! He did have that deer-in-the-headlights look when the camera zoomed into him when Brantley was laid out on the field.

I voted "no" ...because she's 14 and I'm an asshole. I have a 14 year old son and I wouldn't let him go either. Also, I would be pissed if the parents mentioned inviting my daughter to either her or her friend before consulting me.

It doesn't matter. Large model airplanes have no legitimate use in our society, no constitutional protections, and should be banned for safety before terrorists abuse them. Think of the children! Children, too.

John, these are merely BS stories. For one thing in the Kingdom Of Saudi Arabia, if a daughter or wife or a female member of a family (Arab Muslims) The husband will be the one that's punished, that's their law. In some instances if the father isn't available to be punished one of the sons from one of the Father's families will be punished. In fact the Saudi Govt is allowing women to go around without their face masks, and are being taught to drive. Things are really lightning up over here. I know the BBC seems credible, but you'd be surprised of how many differences there are between CNN, BBC & Al Jeezera. So, daughter does the crime, daddy (or brother) does the time! I'm beginning to understand how those so-called "honor killings" became popular.

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/10/01 "...movement does not have a hierarchy. Everyone can speak up or participate in discussions, and so everyone can take responsibility – or refuse it." This looks just like the Tea Party! Well, except for the job-quitting and participation by leftist fundamentalists.

Post #20 - "Labor laws, broadly, not all, are geared to protect companies from labor organizations." I was pretty sure you weren't talking about the girls over in the typing pool who organized the halloween bash. Maybe you were ...who knows?

...and let's not even get into those obviously mentally unstable nutcases that strap model jet engines onto their bodies and jump out of planes and off of cliffs, etc. What if one of those guys went the rest of the way off the rails and decided to take out a building or something? I say stop them before they get a chance. (besides, I'm a little jealous)

Me: Corporations sometimes bad, sometimes good - we'll sort it out in court. Boogey: Corporations always bad. Unions always good. Workers screwed either way.

Wow! I suppose there are a couple of different directions I could go with a response to this. But, I'll go with this one - My "narrowly focused" post was in response to your equally narrowly focused analysis of the reasons that corporations collect this data. In post #3 you allude to the possibility that corporations that may (inadvertently or purposefully) commit a discriminatory act could/would use the collected data to build a legal defense ...and then imply that the data was collected specifically for that purpose even though you also say that "...the data is reported to the Dept of Labor ( if the co. is big enough) to comply with Equal Employment dictates from the government". You "narrowly" conclude that this is one "...of the ways corporations screw their workers". I don't believe it is unreasonable to expect that the data would likely be used as evidence in court. Then, in post #20 you just about accuse "big corporation", in cahoots with DOL and EEOC, of intentionally crafting labor laws to protect themselves from unions while disguising those laws as anti-discriminatory and pro-worker. And you imply that it is the intent of the corporations to find a way to screw their workers by circumventing agreements with unions. Here you have made your agenda clear. The feds, by creating anti-discriminatory labor regulations through EEOC, have inadvertently usurped a lot of the power that had previously been wielded only by the unions. Now the unions can not express opposition to these regulations (which, in reality, are "geared to protect companies from labor organizations") and still pretend to be pro-worker. The only way to reconcile the mumbo-jumbo in your post #20 is to declare that these labor regulations were designed to be anti-union by some vast corporate-government conspiracy and that a corporation, having committed the original sin of being a corporation, must be guilty of discrimination if an allegation has been made. No need to use federally required data for defense of that allegation because it is collected by the company for the purpose of pre-emptively providing that defense. Only in leftyland!

Which is why it's the "perfect" crime. ...which is why folks should be really careful with their online presence and what they reveal about themselves on facebook, etc. and in forums like this. For example, if I was still in my younger years and still building a career, I wouldn't be posting half the stuff I do in SC.

Do you honestly believe in this age of Facebook any employer can't tell what ethnicity a candidate is. Oh dear, that's almost charmingly innocent. ..not to mention that at some point in the process there will likely be actual interview. Oh, but in the age of Facebook, employers can and do check out candidates before the interview so now it's even easier to discriminate. No need to schedule face-to-face contact and risk a potentially illegal employment questions when FB gives up the answers for free. Well sure ...racism and other forms of discrimination do exist but in the end the company still must comply with the EEOC rules and regs or risk a complaint/lawsuit from an employee or applicant. I'm only saying that it is not "screwing" a worker to provide data that is collected in the hiring process as defensive evidence in a lawsuit. The judge will decide whether the worker was screwed or not after both sides have presented their cases. Claiming in a lawsuit that a corporation discriminated against someone based on his facebook page might be a little hard to prove in court.