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That has nothing to do with your anecdote. What doesn't? Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Again those jobs are few and far between - but of my friends and family that are doctors and engineers, they're all conservative - tho they are certainly not Trump supporters. I had like one "friend" that could be considered a scientist - a chemist and liberal atheist. I met him through his wife who was a mutual friend of ours before they got married. She's a conservative christian Medical Doctor. She ended up divorcing his sorry fat ass for whatever reason. His energy drink product that he was developing failed miserably and he fell off the face of the earth. I'm sorry, I just see failures like that coming from my conservative friends despite having more of them. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Ya, I might have been wrong about - just like I was wrong about him becoming more "presidential" once he got the nomination. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

You didn't post any links to any data from any study until after I had already replied to your meaningless anecdote and you had replied to me defending your use of it. Dude, that's kind of lame. I gave the data in my reply to you in post #1640 which you ignored. Your response to my anecdote was in post #1643. A very limited amount of data. Seemingly suggesting that Trump supporters are less successful than republicans as a whole? Yes, but more successful than Hillary supporters despite Jerry and Billvon's implication that they are less educated than them. I can't help that the data of the study is also reflected among those with whom I associate. I can't help that my uneducated Trump supporter friends make more money than my educated liberal friends. I would take Billvon's advice and try to find some responsible, successful, educated liberals with a consistent lifestyle, but they seem a few and far between, which might explain why democrat voters tend to make less money - there just aren't enough successful liberals to offset the whole insufferable, unsuccessful lot of them. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Cher, Whoopi, Miley Cyrus and Al Sarpton have all vowed to leave the country if Trump becomes president. But who believes those people's vows? Then maybe Trump will kick them out. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Ok, but how big is it? How big did you expect it to be? Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Cher, Whoopi, Miley Cyrus and Al Sarpton have all vowed to leave the country if Trump becomes president. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

You didn't post any links to any data from any study until after I had already replied to your meaningless anecdote and you had replied to me defending your use of it. Dude, that's kind of lame. I gave the data in my reply to you in post #1640 which you ignored. Your response to my anecdote was in post #1643. Surely you're not of the Normiss mentality to think that I would instinctively pull those numbers out of my ass - Maybe I should play the lotto. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

He'll just say that "weasel" is a verb. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

I agree - just ignore that elephant in the room shouting "racism!" Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

I got all of it right. I addressed precisely what you said and your only answer was to say it wasn't what you were really talking about. Well, it was exactly what you were talking about, because it was exactly what you said, and you said it for a reason because you thought it proved a point. No - the meaningless, but amusing anecdotal evidence was just icing on the cake. It wasn't needed to prove the point because the data from the study already did that for me. All you're doing is nit-picking the anecdote to draw attention away from the facts of the study. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

It's very simple. Jerry said that Trump supporters tend to have a low intellect, and Billvon showed exit polls among other data that suggests they are less educated and have the worst grammar skills among supporters of all other candidates. Now tho they may be less educated, I showed exit polling data that suggests they still tend to be more successful financially than supporters of any democrat. ...but I know - you object to the part about me saying "educated Clinton supporter" - Ok, shame on me. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Oh, I guess you are that thick. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Hence Smart Ass Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

He just looks for stupid reasons to start shit with me - especially over comments made in jest - he hardly ever engages me with real discussion. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

No he changed the first wife once, and the second wife once - that's two changes for a total of 3 wives, unless of course you count the initial change from bachelor to husband. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

you can't be that thick. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

A very well written article. Yes. "Regrettably, his essential character appears to be fixed, and he seems incapable of change or growth. " At 70 years old there is no reset or change of personality for him. Recognition of mistake is not within his personality. I don't see that his age has much to do with it. He was an asshole and didn't change in his 20s, his 30s, his 40s, his 50s, or his 60s. He is just and has always been an asshole. He represents the unmasked reality of the corporate/political world behind closed doors - unfortunately however, in a volatile world based on conniving deception and bold face lies, world leaders must maintain the facade less all hell break loose. Scripture talks about a time when all restraint against evil will be removed - perhaps the nomination of these two shit sacks is the beginning of that. I'm ashamed that these are the two nominees - and it sucks because there are no do-overs, there is no recourse. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

A very well written article. Yes. "Regrettably, his essential character appears to be fixed, and he seems incapable of change or growth. " At 70 years old there is no reset or change of personality for him. Recognition of mistake is not within his personality. I don't see that his age has much to do with it. He was an asshole and didn't change in his 20s, his 30s, his 40s, his 50s, or his 60s. He is just and has always been an asshole. He can not change. Not even his hair can change. Nonsense, he has changed wives 2 times already. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Nope, in posts 1622 & 1631 Jerry brought up the "low intellect" of Trump supporters and Bill posted articles about how they are less educated/uneducated - how their grammar is the worst of all candidates. ...but you're right, I should have put quote marks around "educated" when I said "educated Clinton supporters." Thanks! Stop projecting. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Then why were you talking about it? I already told you what I was talking about, and why. Yeah, you were talking about how your best republican friend was better than your average liberal friends. And I told you why that was A) obviously the case and B) meaningless in the wider context. Well, at least you got half of it right. . . Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Then why were you talking about it? I already told you what I was talking about, and why. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Ya and we discussed how there is a difference between education and intellect. We could probably go off on a rabbit trail and discuss the differences between intellect and intelligence or even the difference between Intelligence vs IQ, but it really wouldn't matter - this whole thing is just an exercise in futility. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Jerry and billvon said that the majority of Trump supporters were uneducated. I posted a study that showed that they are finacially more sucessful. Why is that so hard for you to accept? Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

The point was to illustrate how uneducated Trump supporters can still be responsible decision makers that are more sucessful than educated liberals. Sorry if thats too much for you to handle. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour