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When I hear singers from England or Australia, their vocals tend to sound like they have an American dialect to me. Do Brits and Aussies also hear an American dialect as well, or do you hear your own native "proper" english dialect/received pronunciation? (not that Aussies speak proper english - people like Steve Erwin have always sounded like retarded Englishmen to me.) Is there a science behind this phenomenon? I suppose I could look it up myself, but whats the fun in that? Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

He hasn't been in the position to fuck up like Hillary - give him a chance. Why would he put himself up to any possible and unnecessary scrutiny given the current political climate? - not that it would matter, lol. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

As we have seen in this forum on an almost daily basis, the benefit of a doubt is only given to the party with which you most align yourself. ...but again, ignorance is no excuse. We already know what we're getting with Hillary - just incompetence. . .more excuses. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Do you think the following quotes are conducive to disseminating information efficiently? Your post contradicts itself - you offer nothing of substance to the discussion, because it's all you've got - nothing. You, and people like you are the problem. No, your arrogance is. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

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You can believe whatever you want: You can believe that bees are dying because of pesticides or parasites. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/30/science/neocotinoid-pesticides-play-a-role-in-bees-decline-2-studies-find.html?_r=0 You can believe that bees aren't dying because of pesticides or parasites. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-entine/post_10802_b_8913974.html You can believe that bees are dying because of climate change. http://time.com/3951339/bees-climate-change/ You can believe that bees are increasing because of climate change. http://phys.org/news/2016-07-bees-abuzz-climate.html You can believe that the bees are at a 20 year high and that the bee-apocalypse should be called off. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/07/23/call-off-the-bee-pocalypse-u-s-honeybee-colonies-hit-a-20-year-high/ You can believe in any or all of those things - and if anyone is skeptical and dares to question those beliefs, you can ridicule them and label them as a denier - that ought to show them! Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Way to be unnecessarily rude. Like I said before, classy. That's funny coming from you - maybe even a little ironic, but definitely hypocritical. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Nah, it turns out AGW wasn't a threat - everything is fine now. Big surprise! Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

+1 There's one up here in northern Michigan off I75/23 a - Tony's Tacos - and he's starting to invade the local beach concession stands. They're alright, but nothing special - it's a bummer tho, no hard shells. I still have yet to find anything up here that's even close to Tito's Tacos back in Culver City when I was working there. ETA: ...and just to be clear - no, I didn't work at Titos Tacos - my complexion was too pale. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

What was that you were saying about hateful and vile, curse-filled posts? Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

What does that have to do with what I posted? Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

How are we to address that concern? What laws would you propose that would effectively address the concern around human trafficking? There are already laws in place against trafficking. The idea here is that the scale effect of legalized prostitution would only make the problem worse. It is the responsibility of advocates for legalization to make sure that doesn't happen since I don't support it either way. I don't see myself ever voting "yes" to legalize. At the very best, I would simply decide not to vote if those concerns were addressed - I'd vote "no" if they weren't. Also, it would be their responsibility to make sure that any protections under a new law for prostitutes were implemented properly, unlike places such as Germany where legal prostitution was sold under the idea that it would make everything better, but only a handful of prostitutes actually have legal contracts that would protect them. The majority of prostitutes are migrant workers that are unaware of their rights and human trafficking is running amok. It was a cross-sectional study comparing the numbers of over 100+ countries - those numbers don't lie. Saying that there are different studies that don't come to the same conclusion is not a justification to ignore those numbers. I'm familiar with some smaller scale studies that looked at prostitution in places like New Zealand and Australia and came to different conclusions, but you have to consider the characteristics of that region. It's much more difficult to travel to Australia/New Zealand than it is to travel throughout Europe. It's also a smaller area, with a relatively smaller population. It's much more lucrative to operate where there are more people willing to spend the money with less risk and more "hiding" places to transfer trafficking victims. Also, IMO, one of the issues with the study that I posted is that when you have places like Sweden criminalizing prostitution, all the prostitutes and traffickers just move to places like Germany where there is more business and less risk - so we have to ask how relevant is that when considering legalized prostitution in the U.S. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

No, he didn't. You are the only one who brought it up. Let me clarify. All molesters of same-sex children are homosexuals. All homosexuals are not molesters of same-sex children. Get it now? Makes sense, but I was under the impression that the sex of a child doesn't matter to a pedophile, regardless of whether they are homosexual or not. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

I already addressed that in this post: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4813082;search_string=50%25%20decline%20in%20gun%20related%20crime;#4813082 How about you respond to that before bringing it up repeatedly in other threads? Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

No, you just seemed a bit confused on how the criminal justice system worked. That's the last time I try helping you out - jeeze. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

I'm sorry, what is the 'it' that is done as a result of prostitution that people don't care bout? Are you suggesting that people who support legalisation of prostitution don't think those who rape, traffic or control prostitutes against their will should be punished? No. I'm saying that when a pastor molests a child, it's like the worst thing ever, right? Even rapists and murderers don't tolerate that type of behavior - It even brings atheists to believe in the "special places" of hell. ...but when it comes to facts that suggest sexual abuse tends to increase with the legalization of prostitution, nobody wants to hear that -they either ignore it or change the subject. You'd think that if people found sexual assault on children to be so loathsome, they'd be at least willing to forego legalization of prostitution until there were measures that would mitigate that loss - but they just ignore it all together and fight me because they think I'm using the research to shove my religious beliefs down their throat. It makes it seem like they're not as concerned about the children as they are with only pointing out the religious people that sexually abuse them. I explained my view on guns vs prostitution here. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

That's because many of us see a difference between consensual sex between two adults and sexually assaulting a child. But apparently they don't see how the decriminalization of prostitution tends to increase those sexual assaults. Perhaps those issues should be addressed before rushing to legalize. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Um no. Same sex molestation is an indicator of homosexuality. It is not the equivalent. Try making out a Venn diagram. I understand logic isn't your strong suit, but I'm sure you understand this. Ryoder's the one that implied it, yet you rip me the new asshole. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

What a load of horseshit. No one has been advocating for child prostitution. No, they just ignore it. Apparently the right of a woman to sell herself for sex is more important than addressing the concern that legalized prostitution tends to increase human trafficking - talk about horseshit. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Yes, it seems to be SOP; The more a public figure rails on about some practice that offends him, the more likely he is to be engaging in it. seems like you're equating same-sex molestation with homosexuality - be careful, the libs will tear you a new asshole for that one. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Nobody is saying due process here should be leapt over. What I'm saying is, there is a special place in hell for people who commit sexual abuse on children and that hell might be more than simply mythological and can exist in a prison and I have no problem with this particular jackass being abused. If it comes to that, then he will truly be dealt justice. Sounds like you have already convicted him. Why are you the only one who can't figure out what he's talking about? He's talking about if the the guy goes to jail - going to jail meaning he's convicted. Typically when one is arrested, they are placed in a holding cell or "drunk tank" and await processing into the general county jail population. In jail, word of your rap sheet tends to get around pretty quickly. Men in the tank that have been accused of molestation -or even kidnapping- have been known to be beaten half to death or even killed. If you're lucky enough to make it to gen pop, you'll most likely face a similar fate before you post bail or make it to your day in court. In the very least, you'll be forced to eat and sleep on the ground like a dog - unless of course they take your food away as well - along with any dignity that you may have left. You will be ridiculed night and day - they will pass gas in your face as they walk by and maybe even shit on your head - don't even bother going to the shower, brah. Many men falsely accused have been subject to this humiliation by those that share the same mindset as quade. It's interesting that when it's a pastor accused of molestation, "there's a special place in hell for those types" - but when it's done as a result of prostitution, "meh, it's a woman's right - shit happens - legalize it anyway!" Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

Of course these types of things come to light with more frequency these days - and I wouldn't be surprised if he is actually found guilty - but don't you find it a bit peculiar that the accusation comes shortly after an insult toward homosexuals on a national level? Also, I'm a bit surprised to see you rush to oppose due process. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

What part of "increased human trafficking inflows" don't you understand? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_United_States#Legal_status So human trafficking is higher in the counties in Nevada where prostitution is legal then the counties where it is illegal? Has human trafficking in Rhode Island gone down since 2009 or did it go up in the 80s? Really, you're going to challenge a cross-sectional study of 100+ countries with a little mini bolas study citing a couple of wiki quotes about the status of prostitution in 2 states? The study is talking about the scale effect and how the expansion of the market through an entire country outweighs the substitution effect. If one doesn't understand those concepts then it might be difficult to have a conversation about them. I will say however that the brothels in Nevada are dying - and not just because of the shear sleaze and repulsiveness of it all, but because people are starting to turn to the convenience and discreetness of the internet - which introduces another dynamic of the conversation. I think the internet could be used to pose a solution to the problem - but at the same time, it could be the vehicle that's been driving this unprecedented rise in human trafficking. Were those arguments founded on empirical data of actual research, or just someone's opinion? Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

One of the main arguments that we hear is that prohibition lead to more negative consequences. In the case of prostitution, places like Germany cast doubt on legal prostitution and it's ability to improve conditions as much as people think it does. There's also the data that suggest human trafficking inflows increase with legalization - not sure if I mentioned that already. Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

I'm not so sure heavy regulation of guns is as necessary as you might think. The nearly 50% decline in gun related crime had less to do with regulation. The assault weapons ban has already be shown to have been ineffective in reducing gun violence. Neither can the decline be attributed to the nearly 50% increase in the amount of guns owned. If there was just one contributing factor in that decline, I would say that is was the change in the cultural mindset of a generation and the better parenting that came along with that change. That's so vague. You have to define what those regulations are - because again - the idea here is that those incidences of misuse have a tendency to increase with legalization even if regulations are put in place. In many cases women are unfamiliar with the regulations and don't take advantage of protections under the law. Are you talking about having a system similar to Sweden? Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour