rehmwa

I think that's narrow sighted - if it can be proved they are also a danger with knives, power tools, lighters/matches, or even a credit card......why have an inconsistent standard? however, by establishing cars and guns have a similar standard in your mind - you have at least admitted that guns are property and not some mysterious tube of danger so there's hope you can close the rest of the logic eventually Me? If I had legal proof that an old codger has a vicious habit of taking his hammers and pounding on the paper boy - I'd think an appropriate initial response would be to take the hammer away and give it to the kids for safe keeping. But then, that's crazy - 'hammers' don't win votes or increase taxes I guess. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

wells, a DZ's statused to successfulnesses bein's do too advershin' from buster or booms'ing as well as' experienced leaderstuff - ya know? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

that depends on the government in question since the US government is founded on individualism and private property rights (including the ownership one's own labor) - then yes, that concept (of government default ownership) is wrong. If one keeps that forefront in any political discussion, then right vs wrong is usually VERY clear. other governments and their agreement with their citizens - well that mileage may vary. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

well, most cops have to maintain some level of fitness and training... ........ If you're suggesting that all gun owners should be required to maintain the same standards as police officers............ I guess you weren't getting the gag at that point. have a nice summer...... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

I agree. However, sex and racial discussions should not be part of pleasantries. It is just too easy to offend or have a misunderstanding. In a fortune 500 company or small business, sure If I run a tandem and AFF DZ, sure If I own and operate a biker bar - maybe not so clear cut If I'm an undercover cop in a tough part of town - maybe not so clear cut If I'm a gangster - maybe not so clear cut Vice President of the USA - maybe not so clear cut ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

well, most cops have to maintain some level of fitness and training - so likely any cop prior to retirement age is fine with me......as long as they get to taze someone, I'm good whooops, my bad, I read that wrong. pretty much any newer gun. The older ones are collectibles and might be in ownership for sentimental reasons rather than for shaky handed shooting. whoops again the old guy has rights to own property, unless he's demonstrated, through HIS OWN actions, that ownership of the property is a DIRECT THREAT to others, the government should keep their filthy hands off of any of his property - regardless of age, physical health, or type of property. If his judgment is impaired, and a car or gun or hammer or WHATEVER inanimate piece of property, is a threat to public safety, then that fact needs to be PROVED, and the property should stay with his FAMILY, not be defaulted to the public bins. If he doesn't have family or a guardian, the gov't would have the responsibility to dispose of the property in HIS BEST INTERESTS. That means arrange for sale or gifting per the owner's wishes if possible and the proceeds to go to the owner. The property should NOT transfer to the gov't in any case. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

well, most cops have to maintain some level of fitness and training - so likely any cop prior to retirement age is fine with me......as long as they get to taze someone, I'm good whooops, my bad, I read that wrong. pretty much any newer gun. The older ones are collectibles and might be in ownership for sentimental reasons rather than for shaky handed shooting. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

well, most cops have to maintain some level of fitness and training - so likely any cop prior to retirement age is fine with me......as long as they get to taze someone, I'm good ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

Is that "ever even" or "every evening"? Jus' askin'. ok - let's parse it out for the simple minded in the crowd - you know who you are (or maybe you don't).,,,, Every Even Open Open Every = "ever" but not really = hardly ever Even = smooth and level = Even Open Open = multiple open = opens thusly "hardly ever even opens" up links.......yada yada sigh - it's not really my fault you don't do the thinking up front ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

can you make that clicky - it doesn't work (what were the rest of you posting about?) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

I'm in agreement - professional is meeting the contract. But I do think pleasantries are necessary to establish functional working relationships and respect. This makes the goal of getting the job done more effective. I agree with the gamesmanship comment. Unfortunately, if you ask most people about what defines professionalism, you'll get dress code about as much as any other item. You ask a technical person, and you'll get the cert doc comment. The rest is all Miss Manners stuff.... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

Some define 'professionalism' as: -getting that certification document -dressing in similar suits -talking to each other in prim old fashioned manners -playing the politics -telling people what they want to hear, rather than the truth -following the rules, even bad ones -putting in 12 hour days even if you only have 9 hours of work that day what if you define 'professionalism' as -does what it takes to get the job done -no games -direct and honest and open communication I personally don't appreciate vulgar discussions at my engineering company. I will temper or elevate my language to match the comfort zone of those around me. But I'm not sure if it's more or less professional to force others to do the same. I don't much care, but I do care about results. So if someone is 'over the top' or 'out of line' that it affects the overall productivity of the work? Then that's a good place to draw the line. That includes bad behavior, but it also include hypersensitivity, includes playing games too much also. Edit: clarification - note was "no reason for it nor is it constructive in any way" I'd say that is more dependent on the crowd you are in with rather than a blanket statement. Despite that I'd wish it would be an absolute. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

with our voting trends, we'll likely get one, and then the other, and they'll also just keep spending and screwing up the economy - GWB#1 sucked, GWB#2 sucks worse now, so what the hell #3 and #4 have a shot to do their damage soon enough.... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

including allowing drilling in shallower coastal waters and on the surface - despite the PR of emotionally driven enviro groups that don't understand the consequences of their rants???? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

By getting the PRE-requisites done prior to the ratings course. As they are supposed to do. cripes - teaching is about preparation. I'd love to find out from course directors (any kind) what percentage of people show up without even having started on their proficiency cards. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

Maybe you should ask Amy what she means. I don't know her or the DZ.... I read it as possibly - She wasn't available to work one day with the coaches because she had to teach the FJC. Later, she finds out the FJC is canceled and therefore she now has time for the Coach wannabees to work with them on their rating. So there's a version that has a positive spin to it. careful you don't inadvertantly slander someone you might meet someday as for candidates "missing" the FJC during the course - frankly, if a candidate doesn't ALREADY have that requirement done BEFORE any rating course, then they need to decide if they are really that serious about their intent. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

I wonder how one would define the difference between a "right wing racist" and a "left wing racist" If you still can't tell right from left I suggest you get someone to mark your hands "R" and "L". I suspect if you did it, then from my viewpoint, they would then be on the wrong hands and written upside down and it would be mike or rush's fault..... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

so be it and the games begin {random link to the bunny/pancake photo - because only 2 posters every even open open up links that don't have 'boobies' somewhere in the text} ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

(posting for others) ah Ha!! rehmwa has no real answer other than pap and noise - VICTORY IS not his, it's MINE!! (just getting ahead of the standard post pattern) {{insert extensive cut and pastes on non-related material from fringe websites}} ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

QED - I'll also be adding you to the Obama = "GWB+" list {then running off to the other room to chortle and claim victory due to contrivance and misinterpretation of SC comments - everbody's doing it} and if you argue, I'll just point you at the misuse of the apostrophe - don't make me play that card...don't do it ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

I think Palin genes appear to drive opposite to extinction....much like welfare ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

Marketing won the election and the honeymoon. If that's not doing well, he has NOTHING else left - the rest is an empty shell. PR is his only club in the bag. We elected a poster and a series of sound bites - now we're surprised we got thin air for leadership? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

I thought it was funny - after 10 years of the same crap just getting worse, I'd consider going back to the oceans too.... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

I would claim both have it in their hearts and there is no diff. It's only based on which HACKs are willing to defend it on their behalf based solely of whether they CLAIM to have an R on a D next to their name. Reprehensible behavior is reprehensible behavior - the rest is just crappy rationalization ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

I wonder how one would define the difference between a "right wing racist" and a "left wing racist" It typically depends on whether or not they get away with it by addicts to partisanship the rest of us just see a 'racist' with out the qualifiers I'd assume ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants