dragon2 0 #26 January 14, 2009 QuoteI'm not sure why you're so convinced the CX has problems for wingsuits if you've never flown one? Cause Jarno says it does. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdrake529 0 #27 January 14, 2009 QuoteIf I wanted quality video? HC1. If I wanted lightweight HD/tape? HC5. Was there a quality decrease from the HC1 to the HC5?Brian Drake Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #28 January 14, 2009 HC1 has better glass. HC5 has better encoder. Brian, am I gonna see you at Eloy in a couple weeks? I'll bring my A1 with me, which is the professional version of the HC1. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 73 #29 January 15, 2009 Quote Quote I'm not sure why you're so convinced the CX has problems for wingsuits if you've never flown one? Cause Jarno says it does. The footage Im looking at is high-speed flying shot by cameras on stands (sticking out from the body). And the people watching over my shoulder didnt notice anything wrong with it. But being an anal-retentive-pixel-pushing-nerd, I tend to look at this stuff a lot more detailed (and full-screen on a 30 Inch monitor) then 90% of the end users. Even having seen the issues, I was about 3inches removed from ordering a CX12 when the new CX105 was announced. The issues Ive had with moisture (even with a camera in a good enclosed D-box) over the years with tapes and/or the cameras itself during jumps are no match for the ease of use of digital media and the much faster processing time. No matter how much you sugarcoat it...if you spend a full day editing at a boogie/event (like the swooping vids you do often Saskia) you are spending most of your time actually capturing the footage. Just a quick copy saves soo much time. And doing a full boogie video (like Im doing now for an event I did a while ago) and having 4 hours of tape to capture...thats 4 hours spent waiting for stuff to download..which could be done within half an hour... Once you go fully digital (which everyone will have to at some point) you'll never want to go back. So far my experiences have been editing stuff for others and doing non-jumping videos. But its the future...tape suxSo does OIS...and glad to finaly see some cameras that also solve this (be it with slightly worse lenses and having to wait for them more than a few months...or so it seems..)JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #30 January 15, 2009 >Was there a quality decrease from the HC1 to the HC5? I saw a decrease. I noted that the HC1 has a better stabilizer and that colors look better to me. HC5 colors look oversaturated, but some people may like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 0 #31 January 15, 2009 I must say the CX105 sounds tempting, gimme some footage to play with when you have it? ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 73 #32 January 15, 2009 the importer here mentioned end of fabruari 'for sure', but when I asked about it maybe being later (march/april, like DSE mentioned) he didnt sound to convinced anymore.. Hoping to get some more details on that one.. Now that I know which camera I want...they throw me a new curveball...do I want a silver, black or red version... I think Ill take the RED ONE..hmm..dont know if that nickname is what influences the delivery time.. JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dumpster 0 #33 January 20, 2009 Thanks very much - Learned a good bit from all the feedback too - !!! Easy Does It Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #34 January 30, 2009 I promised you I'd show you how we do this so fast...so here is an excerpt of how we're doing this as fast as we do.... Short excerpt from Tandem Videos Made Easy" with Chris Warnock. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlevin 0 #35 February 5, 2009 A couple of you have mentioned new cameras coming out that may be worth waiting for. What new models are that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #36 February 5, 2009 The HDR-CX100/HDR-CX105 is one that looks pretty good. HD, EIS, 30mm lens threading, all solid state to memorystick, unlimited 2.3mp stills while recording video, 240 frames per second maximum record speed, very lightweight/small. Feb/Mar. The HXR-MC1 is an HD camera with a separate video head. Video section goes on your head, recorder goes in your jumpsuit or wherever. Also HD, solid state etc. I think that's Feb as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Laszloimage 0 #37 February 6, 2009 Quote unlimited 2.3mp stills while recording video it's really coming... one device for both video and stillsI'm sure the next model after this one (I guess another year) will have even higher res. unlimited still capability while records HD video. Will be a "neck saver" for sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #38 February 6, 2009 >it's really coming... one device for both video and stills Well . . . sorta. I have an HC5 that I use for RW, and it can take up to three 2.3mp still pictures while recording video. Picture quality through the video lens is pretty poor. It might be OK as a "better than nothing" option but it doesn't compare to even a point and shoot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnskydiver688 0 #39 February 6, 2009 Please excuse me if my thought is way off point. I am currently reading my way to being informed regarding camera work. My thought is with HD and high quality video capable of being Blu-Ray worthy would it get to the point where frame grabs are just as good as consumer level point and shoots for stills? I understand at the professional and expert amateur level separate cameras are needed.Sky Canyon Wingsuiters Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #40 February 6, 2009 The technology is there now to do it. It's not cost effective to put good/better glass in front of a video system. If web-pix that are slightly washed-out are OK with you, then yes...screengrabs or stills shot while recording video will be fine for you. If it's bigger than say...1000 x 500 pixels, the image will not be impressive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
980 0 #41 February 6, 2009 What lens are you using? I originally got some high-end low-profile skydiving lenses (0.5 and 0.3) to use with my HC5 for BASE, but after watching the footage on a good HD TV, I now jump bigger heavier lenses even for BASE as the picture quality is so much better. I went to a Century 0.5 for tandem vids and Century 0.3 (BabyDeath) for BASE and have been much happier with the picture quality. That said, when I want stills I use my trusty old 20D instead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #42 February 6, 2009 >What lens are you using? Raynox 5000. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nonac 0 #43 February 13, 2009 QuoteIf You Were to buy a camcorder TODAY..... To be used to video flying - What would you get? I can't say but it might be a good thing if you will also check the Camcorder Ratings of various brands. Examining the expert reviews might give you an idea which one is suited to your needs. Many who did it said it's cool. Hope this helps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
