AndyMan 7 #1 November 10, 2003 Has anybody seen these in the field yet? I'm considering one, and am curious how people have used the drilled allluminum plate for attachments. Hav you drilled your own holes, or have the holes conveniently lined up with the frames... Also, side-mount, or top mount? Anybody seen pics of one setup properly? _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
x3mcam 0 #2 November 12, 2003 Dunno, since I'm into flat tops, but they (the gun-raks) do look fu*king cool! Tomppa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ihateskydivers 0 #3 November 12, 2003 thats gotta be the ugliest hel...oh, nope, haven't seen one in the field Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #4 November 19, 2003 So, nobody's seen any of these in the field yet....? _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #5 November 19, 2003 Yep. They seem to be about as functional as the Bat-Rak is, and no drilling needed.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #6 November 19, 2003 I'm wondering about the utility of that, jp. For stroboframe mounts, and some other pre-drilled stuff (that easy stuff we should be so grateful for that you guys didn't have in the 'old days' ), if the holes aren't conveniently in the right place, the gun-rak ownder might be SOL. Do you have one in the shop? How do you like it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #7 November 19, 2003 QuoteI'm wondering about the utility of that, jp. For stroboframe mounts, and some other pre-drilled stuff (that easy stuff we should be so grateful for that you guys didn't have in the 'old days' ), if the holes aren't conveniently in the right place, the gun-rak ownder might be SOL. True, I don't know as I haven't tried. QuoteDo you have one in the shop? Yes. QuoteHow do you like it? It's a nice clean design. It looks nice, and is comfortable. I'm a snob though. Flat Top Pro, the only way to go....---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #8 November 19, 2003 I agree. I should have taken your advice. Not wanting to spend the extra moolah is kind of haunting me now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #9 November 20, 2003 No problem-o. DZ.com has these thingys called the classifieds. Perfect place for your Bat-Rak. Oh, and a FTP is only a phone call away!---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canuck 0 #10 November 20, 2003 Why are you wanting to go top mounted now Deuce? Cancuk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #11 November 20, 2003 With the flash, the 10D, and my PC 120 I have a lot of weight on my head. To keep all that stuff from moving around I REALLY have to ratchet my chin cup down, and it's uncomfortable. The FTP speads the pressure over the chin and front part of the jaw, so when it's cranked tight the pressure is spread over more area. After a day of photo-flash-video my jaw hurts with my Bat Rack cause all cranked down it is really pulling my lower jaw back into my head. I'm getting used to it, but I wish I'd have gone with the Flat top. I'll keep my Hawkeye for tandems cause I've got all those mounts angled way up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lister55 0 #12 November 20, 2003 Does anyone have a link to a picture and info on this helmet? I have not yet heard of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #13 November 20, 2003 http://www.boneheadcomposites.com/gunrak.htm Its not to my tastes, but hey...I've been wrong before....-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lister55 0 #14 November 20, 2003 I agree. That thing is ugly. Not to mention, I could go buy a piecr of sheet metal and make the same thing out of almost any helmet. Also, I would want to fill in all those gaps with spray foam and then form a nice curvature for the helmet so that anything slapping against it would slide off nicely. Seems like this helmet needs to back to the design stages. Just my opinion... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #15 November 20, 2003 QuoteI could go buy a piecr of sheet metal and make the same thing out of almost any helmet That was my thought as well. A piece of alluminum, my garage and just a little bit of time (not much, really), and I would have this made. I wonder if we'll see homemade versions of this helmet popping up before too long, instead of spending the wad of cash to buy it. Metal like this is pretty cheap, even aluminum.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #16 November 21, 2003 "I wonder if we'll see homemade versions of this helmet popping up before too long, instead of spending the wad of cash to buy it." Almost certainly Dave, it won't be too long...my biggest concern is that there might be sharp edges that are left, leading to riser damage and snagging concerns, etc. That and the suspicion that people making their own Raks may not be, umm, totally in control of their own flight. I think Bonehead are a little off the mark with this piece of ironmongery. Maybe rethink the requirement to have that amount of plate there, and if flexibility in mounting is the prime driver, maybe have a look at providing a helmet with captive nuts, or cast-in threaded bosses to take plates, strobos, D-boxes, etc.... But then again, at one time, nearly all camera helmets had this sort of arrangement, but with the plate running front to back as opposed to side to side. Modified pro-tecs were all the rage, and at least one very respected camera flier in the UK still jumps a modified pro-tec. Its not the helmet, nor the camera that captures great images, its the flier.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #17 November 21, 2003 QuoteIts not the helmet, nor the camera that captures great images, its the flier Nope, but its the helmet and the camera that captures your risers...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #18 November 21, 2003 And what about the Gun-Rak make you think it is snag prone? I've seen it and it's a nice peice of engineering. Just not what I'd replace my FTP with.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #19 November 22, 2003 Ok, back up, what makes you think I was talking about the Gun-Rak? Weren't NacMac and myself discussing homebuilt variations of the Gun-Rak. Settle down there buddy.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nickboyd 0 #20 December 8, 2003 It's freak'n heavy. For that much weight, I'd go with the Flat Top Pro. It's way more comfortable, but twice as pricy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #21 December 8, 2003 Quote Its not the helmet, nor the camera that captures great images, its the flier. That said, a stable platform will capture more stable images. I know a very well respected camera flyer that routinely uses an old beat up ProTek type modified helmet. He has no problem getting work, but if you compare his footage to someone wearing a more modern and secure helmet, you definitely will notice a difference in the image stability of the video. I've seen some people with modified ProTek type helmets that shake so badly it's just damn difficult to watch the footage. They're in the right position, just a hell of a lot of head shake. Ugly video in my opinion.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #22 December 9, 2003 QuoteI've seen some people with modified ProTek type helmets that shake so badly it's just damn difficult to watch the footage. They're in the right position, just a hell of a lot of head shake. Ugly video in my opinion. This is exactly why I'm upgrading. When I was first starting I was thrilled at the quality of my video, it's only now that I'm getting more finicky that I can't stand the camera shake... _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #23 December 9, 2003 "I've seen some people with modified ProTek type helmets that shake so badly it's just damn difficult to watch the footage." Deffo agree with you there Paul. The point I was trying to make is this.. it doesn't matter if you bought the bling bling lid, super dooper cams, and a groovy suit, it ain't worth a damn if you can't fly worth a damn. Okay, if the Gun Rak is a serious camera flier's helmet, why doesn't it come with a chin cup as standard?-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
