druspork 0 #1 August 14, 2006 4 days left. What's everybody been up to? Who are the new teams to watch out for (teams we haven't yet seen at the GPs)? Will the weather hold? Will it be bigger than last year? Will the new A and AA categories work? Will our novice division out point all the others (again)? Can the girls a) win AAA and b) beat their 19? See you all in Hib on Friday. Dru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cguest4 0 #2 August 15, 2006 What have you guys been up to?!I think weatherwise it's going to be lots of holds, hopefully not as bad as last year. Caroline (Bodyflight Storm) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peej 0 #3 August 15, 2006 Are Spank competing this year? I met them out at Perris when they were training for UK Nationals 2004, a bunch of very cool guys. Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chez 0 #4 August 16, 2006 Hello! I'm looking for a lift to Hib preferably on Fri. I live in Watford, so a pick up anywhere in the London/Herts area would be great. So if anyone knows of anyone with space, please put them in contact with me. I'd be very grateful. Thanks! Cheryl [email protected] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
druspork 0 #5 August 16, 2006 We're looking forward to it. Someone's got to keep you guys honest Also I'm really looking forward to watching Airkix. And I think "A" is going to be intense. Dru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cguest4 0 #6 August 17, 2006 Airkix are going to be awesome. It looks like there are quite a few teams that will be competing for the other medals in A too - Rage, Army, Boogie Pimps, Havoc etc. I'm sure AA will be just as tough, what with that Damn Zebra team competing! Counting down the hours until I get out of work today so can get up there. Caroline (Bodyflight Storm) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fsjumperuk 0 #7 August 17, 2006 You Girls (Bodyflight Storm) were looking pretty awesome in the tunnel last night. I think weather permitting the nationals are going to be great fun both from a competitors' perspective and an observers' one. Let's pray to the weather gods that it doesn't come down to who can drink the most tea in 35 seconds!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxine 0 #8 August 18, 2006 Weather update from Hib - thunder and lightening through the night, lots of rainfall and a tornado in Lincolnshire yesterday. Rain eased off for now but its white skies only. Flash floods forecast, but we'res till hopeful.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #9 August 19, 2006 QuoteWeather update from Hib - thunder and lightening through the night, lots of rainfall and a tornado in Lincolnshire yesterday. Rain eased off for now but its white skies only. Flash floods forecast, but we'res till hopeful.... Thats the British spirit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxine 0 #10 August 20, 2006 Well who'd have guessed it - all the forecasts were wrong and the meet was finished by lunchtime today Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites druspork 0 #11 August 21, 2006 The results are out - not our biggest nationals but not too shabby given the dodgy conditions. The predictions that the UK may not manage 4 divisions proved nonsense. There was a really good spread of teams in each division. The "Bodyflight Squad" are certainly making impressions. The debate over our top novice teams is set to continue - the guys responded to the criticism with even greater performances. Bodyflight Frenzy look distinctly like a younger version of Hyabusa. In "AA" congrats to Bodyflight Storm. On the international scene I see a couple of teams from the Ranch sqeezed in behind them - well done guys. Wingnuts were clear gold in "A". There was a Fantastic jump-off for silver - this held the comp results up for an hour, a planned "AAA" big way was dropped in preference to the more important jump off. It got everybodies attention. 4-Fit clutched the solitary extra point (Otherwise Escondido would have had silver on a count back). Simply amazing to have it finished without needing the extra weather weekend. Congrats to Airkix by the way! Dru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites choll15 0 #12 August 22, 2006 Yeah - just to back up all that Dru said really! Great meet - and what an awesome operation Hib is once the clouds part - 96 lifts in 9 and a bit hours - that is truely a skydiving monster machine in operation. congrats to all medallists. Special shout out to Bodyflight Rage managing a great meet with a last minute alternate. Hell of a way to have to compete at Nationals following a huge commitment of nearly 10 months hard training and a collosal training bill, so well done guys! Oh - and Escondido Rock! (Nice jump off guys - shame to be pipped, but it made great TV!!)www.southparc.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyn 0 #13 August 22, 2006 Likewise... a fantastic weekend Not a shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is serious Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 7 #14 August 22, 2006 All female national Champions in the UK. Females standing with a Gold and a Bronze at the World Meet in 4way, and a Silver in 8way. Way to go chickas!"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skytash 0 #15 August 23, 2006 you aren't going to re-start the whole 'we don't need an all female category' debate again are you Ron? tashDon't ever save anything for a special occasion. Being alive is a special occasion. Avril Sloe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #16 August 23, 2006 Quoteyou aren't going to re-start the whole 'we don't need an all female category' debate again are you Ron? tash I believe the point was "women won't clear to top team averages.....) They hit 19 this year at world. give Airkix one more year. Is 20 a good enough demarkation? Or even a 20 Plus a top 3 finish? For some, it'll never count unless there's four women wearing open gold at one time.... I don't see a disjoint with saying a female category is a good thing to have, while also saying that women can be just as good, just as fast, etc. in this sport. In other words, having a women's only category is not necessarily an admission of inferior potential...... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 7 #17 August 23, 2006 Quoteyou aren't going to re-start the whole 'we don't need an all female category' debate again are you Ron? Not yet But can't a guy just be happy that some folks who normally smell better than the norm, and defiantly look better, are standing on the podium? But since you brough it up........... Never mind"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #18 August 23, 2006 I think a really in depth discussion has to happen on all female teams in the female category being required to use AADs and RSLs having player coaches in the rookie category. I mean, what can go wrong. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites druspork 0 #19 August 24, 2006 QuoteI think a really in depth discussion has to happen on all female teams in the female category being required to use AADs and RSLs having player coaches in the rookie category. I mean, what can go wrong. Hold that thought - we seem to do so well in the UK at irritating... never know your luck. I really hope that Airkix keep on kicking. Their original goals were pretty much just totally obliterated with their performance this year. If they have the energy to keep it going.... and add the Bodyflight Squadies (that project just has to gain attention outside of the UK sooner or later), and maybe interesting things are happening here in UK 4w. It's so cool to watch. Dru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skykittykat 0 #20 August 25, 2006 Airkix did awesome and kicked ass and they will be interesting to watch if they decide to take on a further 2 year committment. WITHOUT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY FROM THE WINNERS IN RW IN GERA, that meet did not give a true average for the teams as the full complement of rounds was not completed. One question is (and please do not flame me as I am only using the unique situation where an all female team are the National Champions (and very much deserved!!!!)): In the Open 4-way, Fire scored an average of 23.4 after 5 rounds and won. Airkix scored a 19.1 after 5 rounds and won. Over 10 rounds, it would be fitting to take off 1 or 2 points for a true score for all teams. If this year's UK Nationals was a qualifying year for a World Championship, would Airkix represent the UK in the Open Class for the upcoming World's or would they be asked to go into the Women's Class? I only ask this as going into the Women's Class would guarantee a podium finish (most probably gold) rather than going into the Open Class where a podium finish would be unlikely. Anyway, Congrats to Airkix and Fire for being Gold Medallists. Liz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 4wayFly 0 #21 August 25, 2006 Fire's last 2 meets had them posting a 23. And the French women did a 17.8 at the World Meet, whereas the meet they did before that had them posting an 18. So while it is obvious that the World Meet only had 5 rounds I 'm not convinced on your 'true average' theory, or the point of it. Unless you think the French women are a 15.8 average team? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #22 August 25, 2006 Quotever 10 rounds, it would be fitting to take off 1 or 2 points for a true score for all teams. look at the draw - the last 5 rounds are about equal to the first 5 in net by round 1st five (4, 1, 3, 2, 5) by round 2nd 5 (6, 10, 8, 9, 7) rounds 5/2/3 are pretty fast, so are 7 and 9 round 1 is medium, so is 8 and 10 round 4 is comparable to 6 (roughly speaking) having block 13 more than makes up for single random just guesses here, I'm better at guessing this with my own team than the pros, but knocking off a couple points just complete 5 rounds to 10 doesn't make much sense as a general comment vs just examining the draw directly ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites druspork 0 #23 August 26, 2006 It wasn't a qualifying year. But if it had been then my take is that Airkix would have (lots of hypotheticals here) qualified to represent the UK in BOTH womens And open. It would surely be their call which they went for. To do both at the same time might be seen as getting greedy! Gera produced challenges with how we read the scores, but Rehmwa is closer to it than an across the board reduction of 2 points. Dru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydiveanita 0 #24 August 28, 2006 I am new to the forum but I can't quite believe the posts regarding Airkix. I am intrigued to find out why there would be negative discussions regarding an all female team. Does anyone know of another sport where women and men compete against each other for the same Gold Medal? I can't think of one? The Olympics has never seen men and women compete in the same competition (I believe) so why should the World Meet? Airkix have worked extremely hard to achieve everything they set out for. It would be much more gracious to give them the recognition and support they so deserve. Whether or not to go into the Open category is their decision and it really shouldn't matter either way. I have no doubt if they do, they are HIGHLY LIKELY to get a podium finish, why else would they do it? I am very interested to understand the rationale behind this issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydiveanita 0 #25 August 28, 2006 For information, if skydiving was ever to become an Olympic sport, the Olympic charter dictates that there would HAVE to be a women only category. The charter has some very interesting facts regarding the promotion of women in sport. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. 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druspork 0 #11 August 21, 2006 The results are out - not our biggest nationals but not too shabby given the dodgy conditions. The predictions that the UK may not manage 4 divisions proved nonsense. There was a really good spread of teams in each division. The "Bodyflight Squad" are certainly making impressions. The debate over our top novice teams is set to continue - the guys responded to the criticism with even greater performances. Bodyflight Frenzy look distinctly like a younger version of Hyabusa. In "AA" congrats to Bodyflight Storm. On the international scene I see a couple of teams from the Ranch sqeezed in behind them - well done guys. Wingnuts were clear gold in "A". There was a Fantastic jump-off for silver - this held the comp results up for an hour, a planned "AAA" big way was dropped in preference to the more important jump off. It got everybodies attention. 4-Fit clutched the solitary extra point (Otherwise Escondido would have had silver on a count back). Simply amazing to have it finished without needing the extra weather weekend. Congrats to Airkix by the way! Dru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
choll15 0 #12 August 22, 2006 Yeah - just to back up all that Dru said really! Great meet - and what an awesome operation Hib is once the clouds part - 96 lifts in 9 and a bit hours - that is truely a skydiving monster machine in operation. congrats to all medallists. Special shout out to Bodyflight Rage managing a great meet with a last minute alternate. Hell of a way to have to compete at Nationals following a huge commitment of nearly 10 months hard training and a collosal training bill, so well done guys! Oh - and Escondido Rock! (Nice jump off guys - shame to be pipped, but it made great TV!!)www.southparc.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyn 0 #13 August 22, 2006 Likewise... a fantastic weekend Not a shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is serious Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 7 #14 August 22, 2006 All female national Champions in the UK. Females standing with a Gold and a Bronze at the World Meet in 4way, and a Silver in 8way. Way to go chickas!"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skytash 0 #15 August 23, 2006 you aren't going to re-start the whole 'we don't need an all female category' debate again are you Ron? tashDon't ever save anything for a special occasion. Being alive is a special occasion. Avril Sloe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #16 August 23, 2006 Quoteyou aren't going to re-start the whole 'we don't need an all female category' debate again are you Ron? tash I believe the point was "women won't clear to top team averages.....) They hit 19 this year at world. give Airkix one more year. Is 20 a good enough demarkation? Or even a 20 Plus a top 3 finish? For some, it'll never count unless there's four women wearing open gold at one time.... I don't see a disjoint with saying a female category is a good thing to have, while also saying that women can be just as good, just as fast, etc. in this sport. In other words, having a women's only category is not necessarily an admission of inferior potential...... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 7 #17 August 23, 2006 Quoteyou aren't going to re-start the whole 'we don't need an all female category' debate again are you Ron? Not yet But can't a guy just be happy that some folks who normally smell better than the norm, and defiantly look better, are standing on the podium? But since you brough it up........... Never mind"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #18 August 23, 2006 I think a really in depth discussion has to happen on all female teams in the female category being required to use AADs and RSLs having player coaches in the rookie category. I mean, what can go wrong. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
druspork 0 #19 August 24, 2006 QuoteI think a really in depth discussion has to happen on all female teams in the female category being required to use AADs and RSLs having player coaches in the rookie category. I mean, what can go wrong. Hold that thought - we seem to do so well in the UK at irritating... never know your luck. I really hope that Airkix keep on kicking. Their original goals were pretty much just totally obliterated with their performance this year. If they have the energy to keep it going.... and add the Bodyflight Squadies (that project just has to gain attention outside of the UK sooner or later), and maybe interesting things are happening here in UK 4w. It's so cool to watch. Dru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skykittykat 0 #20 August 25, 2006 Airkix did awesome and kicked ass and they will be interesting to watch if they decide to take on a further 2 year committment. WITHOUT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY FROM THE WINNERS IN RW IN GERA, that meet did not give a true average for the teams as the full complement of rounds was not completed. One question is (and please do not flame me as I am only using the unique situation where an all female team are the National Champions (and very much deserved!!!!)): In the Open 4-way, Fire scored an average of 23.4 after 5 rounds and won. Airkix scored a 19.1 after 5 rounds and won. Over 10 rounds, it would be fitting to take off 1 or 2 points for a true score for all teams. If this year's UK Nationals was a qualifying year for a World Championship, would Airkix represent the UK in the Open Class for the upcoming World's or would they be asked to go into the Women's Class? I only ask this as going into the Women's Class would guarantee a podium finish (most probably gold) rather than going into the Open Class where a podium finish would be unlikely. Anyway, Congrats to Airkix and Fire for being Gold Medallists. Liz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4wayFly 0 #21 August 25, 2006 Fire's last 2 meets had them posting a 23. And the French women did a 17.8 at the World Meet, whereas the meet they did before that had them posting an 18. So while it is obvious that the World Meet only had 5 rounds I 'm not convinced on your 'true average' theory, or the point of it. Unless you think the French women are a 15.8 average team? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #22 August 25, 2006 Quotever 10 rounds, it would be fitting to take off 1 or 2 points for a true score for all teams. look at the draw - the last 5 rounds are about equal to the first 5 in net by round 1st five (4, 1, 3, 2, 5) by round 2nd 5 (6, 10, 8, 9, 7) rounds 5/2/3 are pretty fast, so are 7 and 9 round 1 is medium, so is 8 and 10 round 4 is comparable to 6 (roughly speaking) having block 13 more than makes up for single random just guesses here, I'm better at guessing this with my own team than the pros, but knocking off a couple points just complete 5 rounds to 10 doesn't make much sense as a general comment vs just examining the draw directly ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
druspork 0 #23 August 26, 2006 It wasn't a qualifying year. But if it had been then my take is that Airkix would have (lots of hypotheticals here) qualified to represent the UK in BOTH womens And open. It would surely be their call which they went for. To do both at the same time might be seen as getting greedy! Gera produced challenges with how we read the scores, but Rehmwa is closer to it than an across the board reduction of 2 points. Dru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveanita 0 #24 August 28, 2006 I am new to the forum but I can't quite believe the posts regarding Airkix. I am intrigued to find out why there would be negative discussions regarding an all female team. Does anyone know of another sport where women and men compete against each other for the same Gold Medal? I can't think of one? The Olympics has never seen men and women compete in the same competition (I believe) so why should the World Meet? Airkix have worked extremely hard to achieve everything they set out for. It would be much more gracious to give them the recognition and support they so deserve. Whether or not to go into the Open category is their decision and it really shouldn't matter either way. I have no doubt if they do, they are HIGHLY LIKELY to get a podium finish, why else would they do it? I am very interested to understand the rationale behind this issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveanita 0 #25 August 28, 2006 For information, if skydiving was ever to become an Olympic sport, the Olympic charter dictates that there would HAVE to be a women only category. The charter has some very interesting facts regarding the promotion of women in sport. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
