alexey 6 #1 September 30, 2002 Cobalt Competition VS Crossfire2, wingload 2.0. Any consideration...Lexa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #2 September 30, 2002 Your looking at canopies that seem to be targeted towards different markets. A better comparison would probally be a FX vs. a Comp Cobalt. Neither of these canopies are designed to turn in like 50 vertical feet like what I've heard the Crossfire2 does.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #3 September 30, 2002 QuoteNeither of these canopies are designed to turn in like 50 vertical feet like what I've heard the Crossfire2 does. Huh???? IT turns fast but not that fast. The Crossfire2 is a VERY high performance canopy. Not only does it dive long but it turns very fast. It has enough of a range that you can dive long or dive short either way the response is immediate. What class would you put the Xf2 in Phree? Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #4 September 30, 2002 >What class would you put the Xf2 in Phree? Honestly, something above a Cobalt/Stiletto, but different from X-braced class from all the reviews of it. Proformance is gauged different ways by different people. A HP canopy for me does not have to turn fast, but it has to be easy to maintain in the surf. There is a reason I don't fly certian canopies, I don't like how twitctchy they are, or they turn too fast for my likes or dozens of different reasons. Other people are looking for the super high g-force turns and are willing to give up something else in a canopies design to get it. You don't read about FX's having a super fast turn rate, but they are super easy to swoop long due to their design. Proformance is in the eye of the jumper...Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #5 September 30, 2002 QuoteWhat class would you put the Xf2 in Phree? I jumped the Crossfire yesterday, and found the performance very similar to my Stileto, only the riser preasure was surprisingly higher. I found it even more sensitive to body position during opening then my Stileto, but had a much more powerful flare in slow flight. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygod7777 0 #6 September 30, 2002 well, i have jumped the fx, crossfire 2, and comp cobalt, at wing loadings from 2.0 and up(all of them) i would say the crossfire 2 is up close to the fx in performance. the swoop is a little shorter, but it has better openings and lighter front riser pressure. the crossfire 2 turns quickly, and so does the comp coblalt. the main difference is the recovery arc. the crossfire 2 have a much larger recovery arc than the comp coblat. and i don't think the comp coblalt isn't close to the performace of the crossfire 2 of fx. the openings were ok, but not that great. the riser pressure is very light, a plus if you like really light riser presser, i prefere a little more. so in my opinion, i would get the crossfire 2, it's a much better canopy. later blue sky's and long swoops kelly "hook low, flare late.......dirt, tumble, dirt.........ouch" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #7 September 30, 2002 Quotei don't think the comp coblalt isn't close to the performace of the crossfire 2 of fx I dunno. I've seen Eric Butts do some amazing shit with his. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygod7777 0 #8 October 1, 2002 what i said was just my opinion. i have seen some really good swoops with people under cobalts. i just don't really care for the canopy. later blue sky's and long swoops kelly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #9 October 1, 2002 Andy? Crossfire or Crossfire2? What loading? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #10 October 1, 2002 Crossfire 2 at about 1.7. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #11 October 1, 2002 High front riser pressure? Interesting? Mine is fairly light.. I wonder if an additional .2 loading makes that much difference? Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TALONSKY 0 #12 October 1, 2002 I agree with Rhino on this one. High riser pressure on a Crossfire 2 ?. I have a Crossfire 2 loaded at 1.73 and the riser pressure is fairly light. Kirk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #13 October 1, 2002 if you notice he is comparing to a stiletto, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJohnson 0 #14 October 3, 2002 I didn't see anyone actually responding to his questions: Comp Cobalt vs. CF2. Anyone jumped both at same wingloading?? JJJJ "Call me Darth Balls" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperconway 0 #15 October 8, 2002 QuoteQuoteWhat class would you put the Xf2 in Phree? I jumped the Crossfire yesterday, and found the performance very similar to my Stileto, only the riser preasure was surprisingly higher. I found it even more sensitive to body position during opening then my Stileto, but had a much more powerful flare in slow flight. _Am I jump a XF1 loaded 1.87/1. The riser pressure on mine is heavy compared to Stileto, but has a much longer recovery arc. The XF2 I demo'd (@2.0/1) had less than 1/3 the riser pressure and a very long recovery arc and deeper flare. I also find the Stileto much more harness happy. I have had some hairy openings on both the Cobalt and the H-mod but have not jumped the the full Comp. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
