cloud9 0 #1 January 7, 2002 I have been psycho paking my Hornet and decieded that if I'm going to keep packing this way I need to go ahead and have a bridle extension put on. So I asked a rigger today if he could put a bridle extension on my Hornet 150, and he said sure how much do you want? I said well, I don't know. How much can you put? He said anywhere from a few inches to a few feet. Now that confused the hell out of me. So ok you psycho packers How much bridle extension should I have put on. I was thinking in the 4-6 in. range, but I'm really not sure. What's the norm?Any Idea's? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #2 January 7, 2002 i believe precisions site has a length on it... I'd look it up but my fingers hurt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BadDog 0 #3 January 7, 2002 I've got a couple that are 6". They seem to be about right.CorporateLawyerDave aka BadDog Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skymedic 0 #4 January 7, 2002 I had an 8" bridle extension on my psychopacked hornet...seamed just about right for me..marc"...a mind stretched with new idea's will never regain its shape" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BadDog 0 #5 January 7, 2002 I looked on Precision's site and couldn't find anything.CorporateLawyerDave aka BadDog Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkymonkeyONE 3 #6 January 7, 2002 I psycho packed my VX and never used an extension. Didn't need it the way I rolled the main.My webpage HERE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cloud9 0 #7 January 7, 2002 Thanks for the replys guys. I did find at the precision site, that a 6" extension is recomended.Quote I psycho packed my VX and never used an extension. Didn't need it the way I rolled the main. This brings up another question. Why is it so important to have the bridle ring contact the bag gommet? Is it just to keep from burning the frabric on top of the canopy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kris 0 #8 January 7, 2002 I have a 6" extension on my Stiletto...Kris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Aviatrr 0 #9 January 7, 2002 The larger the canopy, the longer the extension you will probably need to pack it "easily". On a Hornet 190, I had about a 6" extension - on a 150 it was only about 4....maybe a bit less.. On the 'ole Sabre 150, I didn't use one..Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DBTECH 0 #10 January 7, 2002 As I recall, I made up a 10" bridle extension, for psycho packing of a Triathlon 160 I once owned. I kept the bridle in the center of the canopy, as I rolled it up. (highly recommenced)Dave Brownell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,448 #11 January 7, 2002 >This brings up another question. Why is it so important to have the bridle ring >contact the bag gommet? Is it just to keep from burning the frabric on top of the >canopy?It's not so much that as making sure there's no fabric pinched between the metal ring and the metal grommet, since that can cause tiny tears on opening (the ring will be loaded against the grommet initially.) That's the primary cause of the tiny tears you see on the center cell topskin of some canopies.-bill von Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kirils 1 #12 January 7, 2002 6" is a good average. You need enough to get to the middle of the bundle without pulling the attachment off center. I have a 4" on my 108 and I had a 6" on my 170. I would imagine a "Big Boy" chute takes a longer one.Skydiving is not a static excercise with discrete predictability... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kirils 1 #13 January 7, 2002 Bill, I also think it reduces lateral shear forces on the fabric near the bridal attachment.Skydiving is not a static excercise with discrete predictability... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,448 #14 January 7, 2002 >Bill, I also think it reduces lateral shear forces on the fabric near the bridal attachment.On canopies that have such a short bag-to-attach link that that point is stressed before the canopy is free of the bag, I'd agree. I've never seen a square canopy rigged that way, though. (Note that a kill line pulling on the bridle attach doesn't count, since that gives way.)-bill von Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpervali 1 #15 January 7, 2002 >This brings up another question. Why is it so important to have the bridle ring contact the bag gommet? Is it just to keep from burning the frabric on top of the canopy?<When the bag is pulled from the container, and line stretch is happening the pulling force of the pilotchute will be on the bridle. If you leave slack between the grommet and the bag stop inside the D bag it will try to pull to the stop on it's own. This is an uncontrolled action that can cause burning on the canopy. If your pack style does not allow you to pull all the slack out, add a closer inside bag stop to your bridle.jumpervali Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
BadDog 0 #3 January 7, 2002 I've got a couple that are 6". They seem to be about right.CorporateLawyerDave aka BadDog Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #4 January 7, 2002 I had an 8" bridle extension on my psychopacked hornet...seamed just about right for me..marc"...a mind stretched with new idea's will never regain its shape" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadDog 0 #5 January 7, 2002 I looked on Precision's site and couldn't find anything.CorporateLawyerDave aka BadDog Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 3 #6 January 7, 2002 I psycho packed my VX and never used an extension. Didn't need it the way I rolled the main.My webpage HERE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloud9 0 #7 January 7, 2002 Thanks for the replys guys. I did find at the precision site, that a 6" extension is recomended.Quote I psycho packed my VX and never used an extension. Didn't need it the way I rolled the main. This brings up another question. Why is it so important to have the bridle ring contact the bag gommet? Is it just to keep from burning the frabric on top of the canopy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #8 January 7, 2002 I have a 6" extension on my Stiletto...Kris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #9 January 7, 2002 The larger the canopy, the longer the extension you will probably need to pack it "easily". On a Hornet 190, I had about a 6" extension - on a 150 it was only about 4....maybe a bit less.. On the 'ole Sabre 150, I didn't use one..Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DBTECH 0 #10 January 7, 2002 As I recall, I made up a 10" bridle extension, for psycho packing of a Triathlon 160 I once owned. I kept the bridle in the center of the canopy, as I rolled it up. (highly recommenced)Dave Brownell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,448 #11 January 7, 2002 >This brings up another question. Why is it so important to have the bridle ring >contact the bag gommet? Is it just to keep from burning the frabric on top of the >canopy?It's not so much that as making sure there's no fabric pinched between the metal ring and the metal grommet, since that can cause tiny tears on opening (the ring will be loaded against the grommet initially.) That's the primary cause of the tiny tears you see on the center cell topskin of some canopies.-bill von Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirils 1 #12 January 7, 2002 6" is a good average. You need enough to get to the middle of the bundle without pulling the attachment off center. I have a 4" on my 108 and I had a 6" on my 170. I would imagine a "Big Boy" chute takes a longer one.Skydiving is not a static excercise with discrete predictability... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirils 1 #13 January 7, 2002 Bill, I also think it reduces lateral shear forces on the fabric near the bridal attachment.Skydiving is not a static excercise with discrete predictability... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,448 #14 January 7, 2002 >Bill, I also think it reduces lateral shear forces on the fabric near the bridal attachment.On canopies that have such a short bag-to-attach link that that point is stressed before the canopy is free of the bag, I'd agree. I've never seen a square canopy rigged that way, though. (Note that a kill line pulling on the bridle attach doesn't count, since that gives way.)-bill von Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpervali 1 #15 January 7, 2002 >This brings up another question. Why is it so important to have the bridle ring contact the bag gommet? Is it just to keep from burning the frabric on top of the canopy?<When the bag is pulled from the container, and line stretch is happening the pulling force of the pilotchute will be on the bridle. If you leave slack between the grommet and the bag stop inside the D bag it will try to pull to the stop on it's own. This is an uncontrolled action that can cause burning on the canopy. If your pack style does not allow you to pull all the slack out, add a closer inside bag stop to your bridle.jumpervali Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
