Some Vintage Canopy jump pics

[Beatnik 2]

Sorry it has taken me so long to post some of these. It has been a crazy year and hasn't left me with much free time. Here are some pics of a Strato-Star. More to follow.

[Beatnik 2]

Niagara Parachutes Cobra. It looks like a Starlite knock off.

[Beatnik 2]

5-Cell Para-Foil that is diaper deployed.

[Beatnik 2]

Irvin Skytrainer.

[Beatnik 2]

Double Keel Paradactyl.

[skydiver30960 0]

What cracks me up is that years from now we'll be posting pictures of stuff like

Sabre 2

Crossfire 2

Javelin

Mirage

and the noobs will be looking at it and thinking "man you guys were NUTS to jump that stuff."

Elvisio "sometimes I feel like that already" Rodriguez

[DavidB 0]

Yea, who wants to jump a vintage PD210?

When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

[mccurley 0]

I used to own a Cobra with a Baby Cobra reserve.
Eddie Grim based the Cobra on a PS06 canopy. At least that's what he told me.
I believe the cobra was on the market befor the Starlight. Mine was manufactured in 74 and they had been around for several years before then.

Watch my video Fat Women
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRWkEky8GoI

[377 21]

Beatnik,

Not only are these great nostalgia shots, they are REALLY good air to air canopy photographs which are not easy to shoot.

Nice going. Keep em coming.

If you really trust old gear jump a Sentinel 2000 AAD. I have one I'll give you, but they probably are not legal any more. What are the rules on old AADs?

377

2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

[377 21]

So is there a Barish Sailwing in your future?

http://parachutehistory.com/other/sailwing.html

That radical canopy will sure open some eyes at your DZ or at any DZ for that matter.!

377

2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

[Beatnik 2]

The Cobra is not a King Cobra which was based on a PS06. This is just a straight Cobra not a king or a baby. I didn't even know that this model existed but here is one. It may have been a prototype since the serial number is 1X.

Here are some ground inflation shots of the parachute and you will see what I am mean. To me, it does not look anything like a PS06 or the king Cobras I have seen either. This one even has a small OSI.

[councilman24 36]

The FAR's now require AAD's to be maintained according to the manufacture's instructions.

"(c) If installed, the automatic activation device must be maintained in accordance with manufacturer instructions for that automatic activation device."


Of course is called an automatic emergency parachute release system in the manual and of course is also referred to as an automatic OPENING device.

The manual also give 'recommended' parts replacement intervals and says the sensing unit 'should' be returned to the manufacturer for testing or done at the DZ with their test chamber.

So, if you have a chamber you might be legal to jump it. But stupid.

I'm old for my age.
Terry Urban
D-8631
FAA DPRE

[skypuppy 1]

This is my cobra, which looks quite different from yours.

If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead.
Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

[mccurley 0]

When I had my Cobra, in 74, Eddie didn't have a model that I'm aware of called a King Cobra.
Just the Cobra, which looks like the one in Skypuppy's photo.
I also haad a StratoCloud made by Eddie about 76.
I know some of my grey cells have moved on to greater pastures but all the gear I owned in the 70's was Niagara stuff. Eddie may have made a larger Cobra and called it the King Cobra.
I may e-mail his son Perry and ask him to look at these photos.

Watch my video Fat Women
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRWkEky8GoI

[Beatnik 2]

Here is a pic of the data panel. This was definitely made by Eddy. It has his info stamped all over it.

I have not seen anything similar to this canopy in any of the old CanPara's or Canadian Parachutist's I own. This parachute is smaller than a PC when inflated. It would be interesting to find out more information on this chute.

On a personal note, I would like more information on Niagara Parachutes in general. If you wouldn't mind could you PM Perry's email.

[brokenwing 1]

Beatnik:

you ever run across that Irvin Eagle that Joe Smith had around back in the 70s. From what i recall he told about it -- was the last one being jumped -- got one jump on it was amazing

[Beatnik 2]

Unfortunately, I have never been able to track down an Eagle yet. Been working hard on it but everyone I have met or talked to that jumped them pretty much says the same thing. There were very few produced and they were pretty much prototypes.

If you have any leads or places to start, I would be really interested to know. Send me a PM.

[JerryBaumchen 1,083]

Hi Beatnik,

If my memory is still working I believe this guy jumped one back in '67:

https://fusion.erau.edu/faculty/index.cfm?hrefkey=12E807EAC8FF

[email protected]

Shoot him a line/email and see what he has to say,

JerryBaumchen

PS) Tell him I said to bother him.

[pchapman 262]

Bored tonight so I'll add to the thread.

Two pics of me flying a Paradactyl earlier this month ... backwards.

I could have hooked up the risers to the rig a wee bit more carefully. Fun nonetheless. With a strong wind keeping ground speed low, the backwards no flare landing wasn't bad. (But I practiced holding a 180 twist to face the other way if needed.)

Pics by Beatnik who was laughing his ass off.

[stratostar 5]

Maybe you need to get the kind with the arrow on the bottom so you know what why you should be going....

Two years ago on a round jump as the boys were loading up the AC I looked over at one of the guys rig and noticed the riser had one of the "piggyback" type RSL laynards on it.... but it was on the right side and not the left side, I nudged him and said there is a 50/50 chance you might be facing the wrong way as he got on the AC.

Lets just say he a lost the bet and had to walk back.

you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

[pchapman 262]

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Maybe you need to get the kind with the arrow on the bottom so you know [where] you should be going....

Funny you should say that, because later the same day...

[DavidB 0]

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Pics by Beatnik who was laughing his ass off.

Opened the first pic & the very first thing that went through my head was, caption this pic: "Dammit, dammit, dammit!"

When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

[Beatnik 2]

I was laughing so hard, I was dangerously close to wetting myself. I am so glad I had my camera on because it would have been horrible to miss a jump like this.

[dks13827 3]

great pics.. pchap would you comment on the Dact vs the Delta 2...... specs, performance,, opening ? thanks

[Beatnik 2]

I don't think Peter has flown a Delta II yet but I can comment. I have more parawings than anyone I know right now. I have five Delta II's (including two never jumped ones, a single and double keel dactyl and a PZ-81).

The Delta II and single keel paradactyl are pretty close to the same size of parachute. The line lengths and trim are obviously different and makes them fly very different. As for opening, there are some on the Delta II with the OSI that are really soft but for the most part all parawings because of the low profile of the parachute the fill time is very fast.

For performance, they are completely different. The single keel dactyl seems to be a bit more unstable compared to the Delta II. The Delta II with the stall panels for turns make it very slow and flat. If it has the wing tip steering mod that a lot of people did, the Delta II continues to fly throughout the turns and tends to swing you out more and have more of a performance turn. The dactyl tends to almost collapse a side to get the other to out fly it. This makes for a very interesting turns and quick ones.

Really the parachutes look similar but they are completely different chutes. Right now I am about 1000 miles away from home so I don't have all my reference material to give all specs but if there is something else you would like to know let me know what it is.