Ron 7 #1 December 30, 2002 This is not to start the great debate..... It is just to find out how DZ.commers learned. Also give time in sport, and total jumps. Ron For me it was a Tandem in TN. Then S/L in ARK. back in OCT 93. 2,500 jumps"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dex 0 #2 December 30, 2002 AFF.... the perfect way to end my first plane ride.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ernokaikkonen 0 #3 December 30, 2002 Static line. Everybody knows the best jumpers come from the S/L progression. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sonic 0 #4 December 30, 2002 Static line. No fears of low hop n pops here ----------------------------------- It's like something out of that twilighty show about that zone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #5 December 30, 2002 AFF baby...no better way to learn.__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #6 December 30, 2002 Half s/l, half AFF. I'd done 5 s/l's, a hop and pop and two 10's when an AFF I showed up on the dz for a few weeks. Did a total of 6 more jumps using a modified AFF progression (AFP), the 6th one being my "grad dive." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petur 0 #7 December 30, 2002 Hmmm... few seem to recognize IAF: 3 tandem jumps, 1st relaxed with no objectives, 2nd 90° turns and 3rd 360° turns. 6 solo jumps where one instructor accompanied me during freefall with harness hold during the first two if I remember correctly... Seems the best buy for your money too: http://www.skydivemiami.com/SITE8RES/gravitypacks.htm--- P. "It Hurts to Admit When You Make Mistakes - But When They're Big Enough, the Pain Only Lasts a Second." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 7 #8 December 30, 2002 IAF...Tandem progression....same thing"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AirMail 0 #9 December 30, 2002 3 Tandems then into AFF. No fears of low hop n pops here. Started Myy 15, 2002, currently 46 jumps. -- It's never too late to have a happy childhood. Postal Rodriguez, Muff 3342 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #10 December 30, 2002 Back in 1977-1979 I learned under the traditional static-line leading to short solo freefalls method. that was long before AFF or tandem were available. Now I encourage my student sto start with a tandem followed by a couple of IAD jumps, then a half-dozen PFF dives. After a few more coached dives, they are ready for the Solo Certificate exam. If they can afford to travel to a wind tunnel, I encourage them to try that too. No single training method is ideal. The best program uses different training methods at different levels. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dterrick 0 #11 December 30, 2002 IAD. One thing is for SURE ... IAD (and that damned paper pull) ensures you can fly in slow air close to the ground with confidence. Then, the 5, 10, 15, 20, 30 sec delays each teach you in discrete chunks how you can better manage your air the faster you go . When I go downhill skiing in the mountains I typically go straight to the top. A brief freakout later I KNOW the whole mountain is under my command since I'm as high as I can get. BUT, taking the short chairlift does not freak me the same was as AFF students seem to be freaked by hop n pops. Interesting contrast, yes? Dave Life is very short and there's no time for fussing and fighting my friend (Lennon/McCartney) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jessica 0 #12 December 30, 2002 I did straight, seven-level AFF. After observing the sport for more than two years, I think that tandem progression is by far the best way to go, along with following USPA's Integrated Student Program all the way through.Skydiving is for cool people only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaMan 0 #13 December 30, 2002 I also went straight into AFF... I spoke with the ST&A at Z-hills; they stopped doing the tandem progression because they didn't see a significant improvement of canopy skills from it... Anyone else agree with that viewpoint?Z-Flock 8 Discotec Rodriguez Too bad weapons grade stupidity doesn't lead to sterility. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #14 December 30, 2002 AFF, Skydive Oregon...took to it like a fish to water! So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #15 December 30, 2002 Quote I'd done 5 s/l's, How lucky are you? I think I hold the record for the most number of S/L jumps in the state of Colorado before I could be cleared for my hop n pop Naturally when I was learning to skydive, the only way that you could do it was S/L. I thinks it's great that there are different choices out there.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bwilling 0 #16 December 30, 2002 I'm with flyangel2... I started so long ago (1978) that S/L progression was the only way people were trained... I didn't get stuck until 15 second delay's though... I made a bunch of them, most of 'em spinning like a top! I jumped just long enough the first time (1978-1983) to actually make some AFF jumps as a jumpmaster! I think the current availability of a variety of training programs is a good thing for our sport!!! "If all you ever do is all you ever did, then all you'll ever get is all you ever got." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murrays 0 #17 December 31, 2002 Static line...the only way to go back when I started. I think today's AFF/PFF and tandem are better ways to learn. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jessd 0 #18 December 31, 2002 Well, so far I've only done tandems. I'm planning to do AFF in the spring though. "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dumpster 0 #19 December 31, 2002 Static line here- had to repeat one 15 secon delay and one 30 second- Yep- Hop-n-Pops are a piece o' cake. I remember AFF students really freaking on thiers, while I was doing them for fun! S/L was good for me, as it is front-loaded with canopy flight. Easy Does It Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mustard 0 #20 December 31, 2002 QuoteHow lucky are you? I think I hold the record for the most number of S/L jumps in the state of Colorado before I could be cleared for my hop n pop And how many *was* that? I learned by doing 3 tandems first, then AFF. I was supposed to pull on my own altitude awareness on my second tandem in order to skip AFF Level 1, but I didn't do it. So I did a third tandem, then started in AFF at Level II. I was terrified before every jump and still did pretty well. I did repeat Level IV 4 times before moving on to V. Then it was cruisin' to graduation. *** DJan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cepheus 0 #21 December 31, 2002 Quote And how many *was* that? I learned by doing 3 tandems first, then AFF. I was supposed to pull on my own altitude awareness on my second tandem in order to skip AFF Level 1, but I didn't do it. So I did a third tandem, then started in AFF at Level II. I was terrified before every jump and still did pretty well. I did repeat Level IV 4 times before moving on to V. Then it was cruisin' to graduation. Very, very close to the same routine I followed... I did 4 tandems, started at level III, repeated level IV 4 times, then went on to graduate the next week. -- Skydive -- testing gravity, one jump at a time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #22 December 31, 2002 I learned by paying attention,,, and by lots of reading....... Static line progression ( 5 ) then freefall.. 31 years ago.... 2,693 jumps,, every one of them ... logged...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AntiPinkChrissy 0 #23 December 31, 2002 I went through the S/L program. Which I think is a great way to learn. You find out right from the beginning that the only person who is going to save you is yourself. Though as I look back at the gear I use to jump....I just shudder. ~La La Gang Member #2~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scottyb 0 #24 December 31, 2002 My wife and I started in September 2002. 3 tandems and on to AFP, we are both on level III and are looking forward to getting some more jumps in the near future. The weather has been rough so we just missed our 30 day status so it looks like the refresher course for us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad47 0 #25 December 31, 2002 AFF ... and I still fly like sh!t ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites