chuteless 1 #1 June 10, 2004 Is it USPA policy rules that a student without an "A" licence be required to jump within a certain number of days to stay "current"? or is this an individual dropzone policy??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #2 June 10, 2004 USPA states : http://www.uspa.org/publications/SIM/2004SIM/section5.htm#52 1. All students who have not jumped in 30 days or more should receive refresher training: a. Review all standard procedures which were-or should have been-previously acquired. (1) physical skills (2) theoretical knowledge b. Practice emergency procedures in a harness simulator under the guidance of a rated USPA Coach, Instructor, or Instructor Examiner. c. A student should repeat reserve deployment training once each month until obtaining a USPA A License, including the use of a harness simulator and the pull of an actual reserve ripcord while in the training harness. 2. IAD or static-line method students on freefall status but not yet cleared for freefall self-supervision who have not jumped within the preceding 30 days should make at least one satisfactory jump in their initial training method, with a successful practice deployment, under the direct supervision of an appropriately rated USPA Instructor, before returning to freefall status. 3. IAD and static-line method students cleared to self-supervise in freefall but who have not jumped in the preceding-- (1) 30 days: should make at least one jump under the direct supervision of a USPA Instructor until demonstrating the ability to start and stop turns, maintain altitude awareness, and maintain stability during deployment (2) 60 days: should make at least one satisfactory jump in their initial training method, with a successful practice deployment, under the direct supervision of an appropriately rated USPA Instructor, before returning to freefall status 4. AFF students cleared to self-supervise in freefall but who have not jumped in the preceding 30 days should make at least one jump and demonstrate the ability to start and stop turns, maintain altitude awareness, and the ability to maintain stability during deployment, with a currently rated AFF Instructor. USPA A-license holders who have not made a freefall skydive within-- 1. 60 days: should make at least one jump under the supervision of a currently rated USPA instructional rating holder until demonstrating altitude awareness, freefall control on all axes, tracking, and canopy skills sufficient for safely jumping in groups 2. 90 days: should make at least one jump beginning in Category D with a USPA AFF Instructor or in Category B with a USPA IAD Static-Line, or Tandem Instructor before proceeding to unsupervised freefall B License USPA B-license holders who have not made a freefall skydive within the preceding 90 days should make at least one jump under the supervision of a USPA instructional rating holder until demonstrating the ability to safely exercise the privileges of that license. C and D License USPA D-license holders who have not made a freefall skydive within the preceding six months should make at least one jump under the supervision of a USPA instructional rating holder until demonstrating the ability to safely exercise the privileges of that license.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ncrowe 0 #3 June 11, 2004 Do most instructors charge anything for helping someone get current? I had better get my ass back in the air damn the rainy season in south florida. "Don't Mess Around With the Guy in Shades- Oh No!!! " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #4 June 11, 2004 "should" not "must". Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monkeyb 0 #5 June 11, 2004 Hmm. This is such a big issue for me right now. I graduated off AFF and had a few solo jumps. My last one was on May 15. I'm right on the borderline right now. What's the LAST day I can go before I have to retake level 8? Is it 30 days, or 31? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #6 June 11, 2004 Quote Do most instructors charge anything for helping someone get current? Nathan, Those instructors put in lots of time, money, and energy to get their ratings. They need to be compensated for the work that they do getting a student back up to speed. QuoteWhat's the LAST day I can go before I have to retake level 8? Is it 30 days, or 31? Ara, If you show up at the DZ and it's been 31 days since your last jump, it's one day pass the 30 days. Check with the DZ you plan to jump at, as sometimes they will work out some kind of deal, depending on what your jump history is.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdD 1 #7 June 11, 2004 Ya, a deal that sounds a lot like, "One day huh, Gear UP!"Life is ez On the dz Every jumper's dream 3 rigs and an airstream Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ncrowe 0 #8 June 11, 2004 QuoteQuote Do most instructors charge anything for helping someone get current? Nathan, Those instructors put in lots of time, money, and energy to get their ratings. They need to be compensated for the work that they do getting a student back up to speed. I wasn't asking if they should or shouldnt nor was I trying to debate anyone either way, just didn't know the norm I'm sure there's people who will expect to be "compensated" and some will be fine with a few beers and a paid slot. "Don't Mess Around With the Guy in Shades- Oh No!!! " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mustard 0 #9 June 12, 2004 QuoteI'm sure there's people who will expect to be "compensated" and some will be fine with a few beers and a paid slot. If I was one of your instructors, and I pretty much know what to expect (i.e., you're solid and have been at the DZ although you couldn't jump and have been hanging around), then I am happy to make the jump for slot. But if I don't know you, and your oral review shows you haven't thought much about jumping for the last six weeks, then I'll want my slot plus my instructor fee for retraining you and possibly having to save your life out there. It all depends and there is no easy and quick solution to retraining. Skydivers just dont fit into easy boxes usually. *** DJan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Frenchy68 0 #10 June 12, 2004 I got nailed for a "refresher Jump" after being idled for 32 days (had 21 jumps then). And I have no problem with it. I have not enough jumps under my belt to really be able to judge whether I am OK to go solo safely or not. If nothing else, it prevented the mind fuck game of "should I REALLY be doing that"...etc... Didn't get it for a slot fare though. Would I have liked that? Damn right. Did I have a problem paying full instructor rate for it? Nope. I figure that if an instructor who's jumping camera/tandem/AFF all days on a week end (and I went there on a week end) has 1/2 hour free, he would probably be happier jumping with someone more challenging (or at least cuter) than I Hell, skydiving is tax deductable, right? Nick "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyangel2 2 #11 June 12, 2004 Nathan, What do you do for a living? Are you willing to give what ever you do away for a free slot and a cold beer? I stand by what I said. Instructors need to be compensated for the work they put in. Now, if you have worked it out before hand with the instructor that all they want is a beer and cover their slot, then you have compensated them.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MattyBoy 0 #12 June 14, 2004 Does anyone know what the situation is in the UK regarding currency (I have about 40 jumps and haven't jumped for nearly a year)? I may be gullible but at least I have a magic fish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydivingchad 0 #13 June 14, 2004 I went through AFF training and then switched DZ's to a smaller more convienent static line DZ.( 10 min. drive vs. 90min) I was ablbe to stay current all winter long but now that the nice weather is here I lapsed on my currency, it has now been 3 months since my last jump. I was told by an instructor that I have to go back to my AFF DZ to get current again, at 4 times the cost of what I have been paying for a coaching jump now. Oh well Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. Pelt Head #3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites a97virago 0 #14 September 1, 2004 I'm a PC tech, and you can BET that everyday I have people (friends, family, people I meet in a bar) ask to pick my brain. Now I'm not arguing with paying for a re-currency jump. I've had to do it many time (long northern winters). However, it is not uncommon for people to ask for professional favors. Just ask any doctor you know how often they get asked for medical advice at parties. Larry A-43434 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TrickyDicky 0 #15 September 2, 2004 In the UK there are no currency time limits, as long as you have your A (which at 40 jumps I assume you have). But you might be made to do some kind of currency jump with an instructor or someone, but is down to the CCI at the centre you turn up to. I know Ive seen someone with about 2 jumps after his A turn up (after a year of not jumping) at my DZ and just do an unsupervised solo. UK Skydiver for all your UK skydiving needs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites yoink 321 #16 September 2, 2004 in the UK it depends largely on your skydiving history and how well you're known at the dz. There are no general rules for licensed jumpers. Get your A in 18 jumps and were current, capable and aware before you took time out? A friendly CCI might let you do a solo, more likely if they know you. However if you got your A in 38 jumps and have comments like "Will you at least try to arch?!" or "Next time try being stable!" in your log book and you can bet on a retrain... see? I'd plan on doing at least 1 supervised jump and paying for it - if you're expecting it then it's not a shock and if they don't charge you then you've got added cash for jump tickets Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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mustard 0 #9 June 12, 2004 QuoteI'm sure there's people who will expect to be "compensated" and some will be fine with a few beers and a paid slot. If I was one of your instructors, and I pretty much know what to expect (i.e., you're solid and have been at the DZ although you couldn't jump and have been hanging around), then I am happy to make the jump for slot. But if I don't know you, and your oral review shows you haven't thought much about jumping for the last six weeks, then I'll want my slot plus my instructor fee for retraining you and possibly having to save your life out there. It all depends and there is no easy and quick solution to retraining. Skydivers just dont fit into easy boxes usually. *** DJan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #10 June 12, 2004 I got nailed for a "refresher Jump" after being idled for 32 days (had 21 jumps then). And I have no problem with it. I have not enough jumps under my belt to really be able to judge whether I am OK to go solo safely or not. If nothing else, it prevented the mind fuck game of "should I REALLY be doing that"...etc... Didn't get it for a slot fare though. Would I have liked that? Damn right. Did I have a problem paying full instructor rate for it? Nope. I figure that if an instructor who's jumping camera/tandem/AFF all days on a week end (and I went there on a week end) has 1/2 hour free, he would probably be happier jumping with someone more challenging (or at least cuter) than I Hell, skydiving is tax deductable, right? Nick "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #11 June 12, 2004 Nathan, What do you do for a living? Are you willing to give what ever you do away for a free slot and a cold beer? I stand by what I said. Instructors need to be compensated for the work they put in. Now, if you have worked it out before hand with the instructor that all they want is a beer and cover their slot, then you have compensated them.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattyBoy 0 #12 June 14, 2004 Does anyone know what the situation is in the UK regarding currency (I have about 40 jumps and haven't jumped for nearly a year)? I may be gullible but at least I have a magic fish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivingchad 0 #13 June 14, 2004 I went through AFF training and then switched DZ's to a smaller more convienent static line DZ.( 10 min. drive vs. 90min) I was ablbe to stay current all winter long but now that the nice weather is here I lapsed on my currency, it has now been 3 months since my last jump. I was told by an instructor that I have to go back to my AFF DZ to get current again, at 4 times the cost of what I have been paying for a coaching jump now. Oh well Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. Pelt Head #3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
a97virago 0 #14 September 1, 2004 I'm a PC tech, and you can BET that everyday I have people (friends, family, people I meet in a bar) ask to pick my brain. Now I'm not arguing with paying for a re-currency jump. I've had to do it many time (long northern winters). However, it is not uncommon for people to ask for professional favors. Just ask any doctor you know how often they get asked for medical advice at parties. Larry A-43434 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrickyDicky 0 #15 September 2, 2004 In the UK there are no currency time limits, as long as you have your A (which at 40 jumps I assume you have). But you might be made to do some kind of currency jump with an instructor or someone, but is down to the CCI at the centre you turn up to. I know Ive seen someone with about 2 jumps after his A turn up (after a year of not jumping) at my DZ and just do an unsupervised solo. UK Skydiver for all your UK skydiving needs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #16 September 2, 2004 in the UK it depends largely on your skydiving history and how well you're known at the dz. There are no general rules for licensed jumpers. Get your A in 18 jumps and were current, capable and aware before you took time out? A friendly CCI might let you do a solo, more likely if they know you. However if you got your A in 38 jumps and have comments like "Will you at least try to arch?!" or "Next time try being stable!" in your log book and you can bet on a retrain... see? I'd plan on doing at least 1 supervised jump and paying for it - if you're expecting it then it's not a shock and if they don't charge you then you've got added cash for jump tickets Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
