flyaway 0 #1 March 16, 2006 fROM THE INITIAL PILOT CHUTE PULL TO ACUTAL OPENING OF THE CANOPY, HOW MUCH ALTITUDE IS LOST? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 0 #2 March 16, 2006 Depends on the canopy and how it's packed. I believe that anywhere from 400-1000ft would be fairly normal, though I am open to correction on that one. ps: typing in all capitals is the online equivalent of shouting. edit: typo correction Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyaway 0 #4 March 16, 2006 Thanks for pointing out the CAPS. I went from making signage for my business to the DZ site. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reginald 0 #5 March 16, 2006 I have an 800 foot snivel."We've been looking for the enemy for some time now. We've finally found him. We're surrounded. That simplifies things." CP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superstu 0 #6 March 16, 2006 25ftSlip Stream Air Sports Do not go softly, do not go quietly, never back down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #7 March 16, 2006 Quote400-100ft would be fairly normal, 100 ft - OUCH.... My slider is the size of Rhode Island...Mykel AFF-I10 Skydiving Priorities: 1) Open Canopy. 2) Land Safely. 3) Don’t hurt anyone. 4) Repeat… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dougiefresh 0 #8 March 16, 2006 My Stiletto opens in almost exactly 500 feet. I roll the nose 5 times.Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. --Douglas Adams Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr17Hz 1 #9 March 16, 2006 QuotefROM THE INITIAL PILOT CHUTE PULL TO ACUTAL OPENING OF THE CANOPY, HOW MUCH ALTITUDE IS LOST? This really depends on a lot of things, the canopy size, your weight, your body position and speed at opening (both vertical and horizontal speeds, in the case of a hop and pop). The type of canopy makes a large difference, as well as the size of the slider, and how the rig was packed makes a difference to (you can roll the nose to slow down openings). Opening fast isn't always best. I jump an Icaras Safire canopy as my main, and it takes about 800 feet to open every time... but i'm told that my reserve would probably open in 300.... but these are all averages and estimates. I havn't had a researve deployment yet. This doesn't mean that I would even CONSIDER cutting away at 500 ft... My hard deck is 1,800ft Your post didn't indicate if you're a skydiver or not, and your profile has not been configured, so i'm writing this as if you're not a skydiver and just interested to know, sorry if i'm pointing out things that are obvious. -MattMatt Christenson [email protected] http://www.RealDropzone.com - A new breed of dropzone manifest software. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #10 March 16, 2006 Quote100 ft - OUCH.... Yeah, damn that would be a slammer I think it was a typo and meant to be 1000ft thoughDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ntrprnr 0 #11 March 17, 2006 As my 5,000 hop and pop clear and pull on Saturday at the Ranch which went something like, "ENOUGH WITH THE SNIVEL WILL YOU PLEASE F%CKING OPEN ALREADY WITH ENOUGH FABRIC TO COVER THE SUPERDOME FOR F%CKS SAKE OH, THERE WE GO..." I'd say a lot depends on fall speed. :D_______________ "Why'd you track away at 7,000 feet?" "Even in freefall, I have commitment issues." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 0 #12 March 17, 2006 Yup. Oopsie . Now corrected. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #13 March 17, 2006 QuoteMy Stiletto opens in almost exactly 500 feet. I roll the nose 5 times. I have owned 3 Stilettos over the last 2400 skydives and don’t believe rolling the nose has anything to do with the rate at which a Stiletto or Saber for that matter inflates. The moment the canopy leaves the D-Bag the pack job is shot, the body position at deployment time and slider regulate the rate of inflation. Of course that is just what I subscribe to, I could be wrong...Mykel AFF-I10 Skydiving Priorities: 1) Open Canopy. 2) Land Safely. 3) Don’t hurt anyone. 4) Repeat… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #14 March 17, 2006 Quote The moment the canopy leaves the D-Bag the pack job is shot, the body position at deployment time and slider regulate the rate of inflation. Of course that is just what I subscribe to, I could be wrong... Agree completely. When I watch people pack I'm reminded of dogs that walk in a circle 3 times before they lie down. They don't know why they do it - but if they didn't they wouldn't sleep.. There's so much mumbo jumbo voodoo bullshit around packing... tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #15 March 17, 2006 But...doesn't rolling the nose slow the rate of inflation (at least initially), thereby slowing the the deployment?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #16 March 17, 2006 Of course that is just what I subscribe to, I could be wrong... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Agree completely. See? I may be wrong. I often wonder though, if some people with 300, or 900, or 2800, or 4000 dives just have some super deployment diagnostic sense that I don't have. They're always "too fast, too hard, off heading" etc Only thing I really don't like are canopies that don't open, or that make me think they won't open by snivelling for 1000+ feet. I pack like shit. It looks so bad it literaly scares people - but it works. (At least for the past several 1000 dives, anyway.) tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbunky 3 #17 March 17, 2006 Quote<--snip--> don’t believe rolling the nose has anything to do with the rate at which a Stiletto or Saber for that matter inflates. <--/snip> i gotta disagree, with the sabre part anyway. i have a 190, and because of all the horror stories about getting slammed, i was trying everything to slow it down, rolling the nose to the center, pulling the slider way out front, rolling the tail 5 or 6 times etc., and it was taking so long to open it was scaring me! i backed off on rolling the tail and it sped up openings quite a bit. it was close to 1000 feet before, now it's probably 600 or so. edited to add: i tired stuffing the nose in for a few jumps as opposed to rolling it, and the openings were very 'abrupt'."Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tso-d_chris 0 #18 March 17, 2006 QuoteWhen I watch people pack I'm reminded of dogs that walk in a circle 3 times before they lie down. They don't know why they do it - but if they didn't they wouldn't sleep. It is instinctual. They do this to lay the tall grass down before they lie down. Just a bit of useless trivia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KNewman 0 #19 March 17, 2006 QuoteIt is instinctual. They do this to lay the tall grass down before they lie down. Just a bit of useless trivia. I guess this means I have to mow my couch now!! Blue Skies and Stand-up Landings!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #20 March 17, 2006 QuotefROM THE INITIAL PILOT CHUTE PULL TO ACUTAL OPENING OF THE CANOPY, HOW MUCH ALTITUDE IS LOST? Less than 50 (big 7-cell with a mesh slider and fast jump run opening as soon as you clear the plane) to more than 1000 feet (snivelly modern canopy working as designed). Your vertical speed, the canopy, and your airspeed all have substantial effects. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #21 March 17, 2006 QuoteWhen I watch people pack I'm reminded of dogs that walk in a circle 3 times before they lie down. They don't know why they do it - but if they didn't they wouldn't sleep.. There's so much mumbo jumbo voodoo bullshit around packing... I often wonder though, if some people with 300, or 900, or 2800, or 4000 dives just have some super deployment diagnostic sense that I don't have. They're always "too fast, too hard, off heading" etc Only thing I really don't like are canopies that don't open, or that make me think they won't open by snivelling for 1000+ feet. I pack like shit. It looks so bad it literaly scares people - but it works. Quote After I stoped laughing till my belly hurt, I decided this was worth starting a thread concerning this issue under safety and training: "The Mumbo Jumbo Voodoo of Packing… " http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2131873#2131873Mykel AFF-I10 Skydiving Priorities: 1) Open Canopy. 2) Land Safely. 3) Don’t hurt anyone. 4) Repeat… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites packerboy 3 #22 March 17, 2006 We have a Sabre 210 at our dz that seems to open within about 3 feet or so. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 18 #23 March 18, 2006 Quote25ft OUCH"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AFFI 0 #24 March 18, 2006 Quote25ft Is that AGL? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Richards 0 #25 March 19, 2006 Quote25ft OUCH! FUCKING OUCH!!! Richards My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
packerboy 3 #22 March 17, 2006 We have a Sabre 210 at our dz that seems to open within about 3 feet or so. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #23 March 18, 2006 Quote25ft OUCH"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #24 March 18, 2006 Quote25ft Is that AGL? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #25 March 19, 2006 Quote25ft OUCH! FUCKING OUCH!!! Richards My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
