WI-Fly 0 #1 April 7, 2007 I saw Luigi Cani jump it and it looked tight, if not, what is the smallest parachute you have jumped with? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #2 April 8, 2007 I did, you're right, it was tight. "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #3 April 8, 2007 67 square foot canopy at a 215lbs exit weight.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WI-Fly 0 #4 April 8, 2007 Damn, with only 153 you jumped it...are you LYING????????????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #5 April 8, 2007 Quote67 square food canopy at a 215lbs exit weight. What food was it made of? Or did you eat it after jumping it?...... Be safe Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gearless_chris 1 #6 April 8, 2007 I would jump it 6.28 wingloading, I wouldn't land it though.... Well, maybe if I was on a radio."If it wasn't easy stupid people couldn't do it", Duane. My momma said I could be anything I wanted when I grew up, so I became an a$$hole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #7 April 8, 2007 QuoteDamn, with only 153 you jumped it...are you LYING????????????? No, I read some canopy book first. "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #8 April 8, 2007 Well it started out as a Manta 288, but by the time I landed. I was pretty full though.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,454 #9 April 8, 2007 > I would jump it 6.28 wingloading, I wouldn't land it though.... History has shown that merely opening a canopy at that loading is sufficient to kill you if you have even a minor problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #10 April 8, 2007 G forces put the lights out?"The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #11 April 8, 2007 QuoteG forces put the lights out? Yes. It killed Chris Martin from TN. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #12 April 8, 2007 QuoteQuoteG forces put the lights out? Yes. It killed Chris Martin from TN. That sucks. What about a fail safe for a jump like that? You drop it and it cuts away?"The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #13 April 8, 2007 Do a search, talked about alot after the incident. Xaos 21 would be a good keyword.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #14 April 8, 2007 QuoteDamn, with only 153 you jumped it...are you LYING????????????? How can you ask that? How can a wonder like Doug( the)H(ead) lie? He might substitute the reality with his own. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #15 April 8, 2007 Gábor, I am starting to think that you have a crush on me. Get a grip."The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #16 April 8, 2007 So how was your landing with that handkerchief? How does it compare with your Hornet load over 2.0? I'd like to know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gearless_chris 1 #17 April 8, 2007 I like the idea of using a tandem cypress cutter for a Racer to cut the 3 rings on the small canopy, then your real cypress can save your body. Maybe you could get the tandem cypress custom made with an even higher firing altitude like 4,000'."If it wasn't easy stupid people couldn't do it", Duane. My momma said I could be anything I wanted when I grew up, so I became an a$$hole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #18 April 8, 2007 QuoteI like the idea of using a tandem cypress cutter for a Racer to cut the 3 rings on the small canopy, then your real cypress can save your body. Maybe you could get the tandem cypress custom made with an even higher firing altitude like 4,000'. Better yet, have a secondary harness that allows three canopies, with the handkerchief hand-deployed by someone in the aircraft, cut it away around 5k, and fly your usual main for landing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gearless_chris 1 #19 April 8, 2007 That's what Chris Martin was doing. He had a brakefire that spun him unconcious, no cutaway of the handkerchief(25 sq.ft. Xaos). I would want a back up plan for cases like that."If it wasn't easy stupid people couldn't do it", Duane. My momma said I could be anything I wanted when I grew up, so I became an a$$hole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMax 0 #20 April 8, 2007 where is Bruno? Oh ... I forgot that his VX is considerably BIGGER than 39 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 58 #21 April 8, 2007 QuoteThat's what Chris Martin was doing. He had a brakefire that spun him unconcious, no cutaway of the handkerchief(25 sq.ft. Xaos). I would want a back up plan for cases like that. First of all, it was a 21 square foot canopy, second of all, he had an option of cutting it away. He missed the handle on the first attempt, and by the second attempt he was unconsciosus. "As Perry has indicated, this jump was intended to be a "fun jump," the same as a "tube dive" or a "rubber boat" jump. It was intended neither as R&D, nor was it a stunt. The intent of the jump was to continue and refine the skill of docking a ram-air canopy in flight with a Birdman jumper in freefall. The same jump had been performed successfully the previous day on Friday, October 29. (see attached photo) The canopy is a Xaos-21 cross-braced tri-cell, coincidentally 21 square feet in area, and known familiarly as the "21-21". The wing loading was approximately 9:1. I have had an opportunity to study the incident in detail. Here are some facts: The deployment was direct bag from the tailgate of the Skyvan. Chris Martin left the aircraft facing rear with his hands on the risers at the toggles. Initial inflation was clean and instant as anticipated, while Chris was still feet-to-earth off the tailgate. The canopy inflated downrange as expected, nose-to-earth just like on previous jumps, but the risers clearly pulled from Chris' hands as he transitioned during line stretch. All of this is within the first 2 seconds off the tailgate. The right brake became dislodged on deployment, possibly as his hands were pulled from the risers. The canopy immediately went into a stable and continuous constant rapid-rate turn to the left. It was an unimaginably rapid rate of turn. There were no line twists. The center of rotation was in the mid-riser vicinity. The propeller-like spin had stabilized within 2.5 seconds (six revs) with Chris face-to-earth and arms by his side. The flight mode as I have described was very stable for the almost 2 minute duration to landing. The length of the entire assembly including jumper, from the top of the canopy to the soles of his shoes, was less than 12 feet. The rate of rotation was approximately 804 degrees per second. Exit altitude was 12,900 agl. Time from exit to landing was 01:58. Constant descent rate was approximately 110 feet per second. Observed data was confirmed by Neptune. After discussing the incident with Cliff Schmucker at SSK, had Expert Cypres been on board, the rate of descent was outside the normal operating parameters. Cypres would not have had reason to activate on this skydive, and would likely have been moot at best. This is an initial report, and is solely intended to clarify some of the facts and dispel some of the rumors that have been speculated regarding this jump. This is not intended to be a complete report or analysis of the jump, but merely a statement of some of the data observed. Best to all, George Galloway Precision Aerodynamics" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #22 April 9, 2007 Quotewhat is the smallest parachute you have jumped with When first got into this sport (jumping 220s and 230s) I never thought I'd be flying anything smaller than a 150 or 170. But my JVX 87 is the smallest I've ever jumped and in all honesty I don't need to go any smaller. A 39 or 21 is out of my league (it's out of the league of 99.99% of us). Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #23 April 10, 2007 I have jumped a 58, from HIPER, USA. It was fun! put 10 jumps on it. subterminal, and terminal openings were awesome. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0