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[RonD1120 58]

Truth creates guilt and guilt is denied. Therefore, attack the sensory stimulus that brings the feeling of guilt.

I believe it is the Holy Spirit urging surrender of the ego that is the root of the attack and the expression of offense.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[airdvr 198]

True with the exception of needing to describe the activity. Di you think, had she been in the bathroom she would have felt the need to tell us she was evacuating her bowels?

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[billvon 2,426]

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Airdvr said the topic of conversation at the Tuesday networking lunch concerned racoons and the damage they can cause. The female attorney, obviously just participating in the discussion, describes her own experience. Apparently she was in her home, in a room, and praying, as Christians do, when she heard the noise. Should she have lied, making up some other story so as not to offend anyone with Jesus?

Nope. No reason to lie.

Yesterday I had to change my 3 year old's diaper because it was leaking. If someone at work had discussed how their kids were doing, and asked me how things were going with mine, I would not have described the process of changing the poopy diaper. I could even have figured out how to do that without lying.

This isn't because defecation is evil or anything. It's just that most people at work don't want to hear about it. Same goes for religion, personal hygeine problems, sexual conquests and any recent experiences with cadavers.

[jaybird18c 4]

Would you feel offense if someone likened something or someone you held near and dear to your heart to taking a shit airdvr? Why would you do that to others, whatever they believe?

[jaybird18c 4]

RonD1120

Truth creates guilt and guilt is denied. Therefore, attack the sensory stimulus that brings the feeling of guilt.

I believe it is the Holy Spirit urging surrender of the ego that is the root of the attack and the expression of offense.

This is true.

[DanG 1]

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Truth creates guilt and guilt is denied. Therefore, attack the sensory stimulus that brings the feeling of guilt.

Is that why you react like you do when anyone brings up negative things about Trump?

- Dan G

[DanG 1]

Maybe it'll be easier for you to understand if instead of the bathroom comparison airdvr postulated, the attorney had been making love to her husband? Would you be uncomfortable if she threw that fact into the conversation about racoons?

How about a Muslim who said he was praying to "Allah, the one true God" when he heard a racoon outside? Would that make you uncomfortable?

- Dan G

[kallend 1,644]

RonD1120

.....we are becoming a nation of victims where every Tom, Ricardo, and Hasid is a special group with special rights to a point where we don't even recognize the country we were born and raised in; "AND WE JUST WANT IT FI XED" and Trump is the only guy who seems to understand what the people want.

Were you raised in a country where the President had bragged of grabbing women by the genitals, of entering womens' changing rooms uninvited, had admitted adultery, mocked a disabled man, made racist remarks about a judge and refused to condemn neo-Nazis? I don't recall '50s America being like that.

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[RonD1120 58]

DanG

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Truth creates guilt and guilt is denied. Therefore, attack the sensory stimulus that brings the feeling of guilt.

Is that why you react like you do when anyone brings up negative things about Trump?

How do you perceive my reaction? You may have me confused with someone else. I believe I have been clear in my position as withholding evaluation until 2020.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[jaybird18c 4]

As compared to whom? Hillary Clinton? Are you serious. The Enabler-in-Chief? I don't think you can point to an example of sexual misconduct which Bill Clinton also did not do and which Hillary Clinton either did not turn a blind eye towards or even defend.

[billvon 2,426]

>I don't think you can point to an example of sexual misconduct which Bill Clinton also did not do
>and which Hillary Clinton either did not turn a blind eye towards or even defend.

Raping a 13 year old
Grabbing women by the pussy without their consent because he's famous
Having sex with a porn star while his wife stayed home with their newborn

to start off.

[jaybird18c 4]

Except that, in our American culture, expression of religion has always been a part. It used to be discussed in the town squares as commonplace. To the point that it is even expressly protected in our Constitution. Your comparison with discussion of sexual intercourse in casual conversation would depend on the company. In my old team room where vulgarity was the norm, that was common. However, in a business gathering, it would most likely be inappropriate. I mean, you can do it. However, you probably shouldn't. I still think your comparison with simply mentioning a religious subject in a conversation (he didn't say if it was even discussed or not; not that even that should cause anger) with something as private as sex with your husband/wife or whatever isn't a good one. And no. I would not and should not take offense to a Muslim praising Allah or saying Muhammed is the one true prophet or whatever. Why would I? I disagree with him/her. So what?

[jaybird18c 4]

You can prove that he raped a 13 year old?
And should we also list the allegations against Bill Clinton?
Some of which aren't merely allegations.

[jaybird18c 4]

I was in Afghanistan in 2002. We were traveling a long distance and stopped in a small village. A local invited us to stay overnight at his home. We were having a discussion while sitting on the floor over a meal which he and his friends had prepared in bowls on a blanket. An elder walked up to the group, placed his prayer blanket on the floor facing us, stared me straight in the eyes the whole time, kneeling, bowing, and praying to Allah. It seemed as if he was trying to make a point. He looked angry. I watched him closely. However, I didn't take offense. Why should I have. It should be expected. I believe what I believe and he believes what he believes. Live and let live.

[billvon 2,426]

>You can prove that he raped a 13 year old?

Nope. Nor can you prove all the allegations against Clinton.

If you want to go with just allegations - Trump has more hands down. 20 women have gone public with detailed accounts of Trump's sexual assaults against them.

If you want to go with legal settlements and actual statements by the person himself - again, Trump has more hands down.

If you want to go with divorces and affairs, Trump is by far the leader there as well.

Once again Trump supporters follow the same sad progression.

1) He didn't do it
2) OK maybe he did it but it's not so bad
3) Clinton did it first

[billvon 2,426]

>I was in Afghanistan in 2002. We were traveling a long distance and stopped in a small village.
>A local invited us to stay overnight at his home. We were having a discussion while sitting on the
> floor over a meal which he and his friends had prepared in bowls on a blanket. An elder walked
> up to the group, placed his prayer blanket on the floor facing us, stared me straight in the eyes
> the whole time, kneeling, bowing, and praying to Allah. It seemed as if he was trying to make a
>point. He looked angry. I watched him closely. However, I didn't take offense.

And if you invited someone to your home for dinner who was Muslim, and said grace before eating, and stared at him straight in the eyes the whole time trying to make a point, he probably wouldn't take offense either - because it's your home.

Things work a little differently in the workplace.

[jakee 1,257]

RonD1120

***Is that why you react like you do when anyone brings up negative things about Trump?

How do you perceive my reaction? You may have me confused with someone else. I believe I have been clear in my position as withholding evaluation until 2020.
So you don't believe or agree with any of the things said about Trump in the Raccoon anecdote?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[jakee 1,257]

jaybird18c

An elder walked up to the group, placed his prayer blanket on the floor facing us, stared me straight in the eyes the whole time, kneeling, bowing, and praying to Allah. It seemed as if he was trying to make a point.

I'm sure he was.

But the whole conquered citizen vs foreign invader dynamic doesn't really come into play with any of the other scenarios being discussed here does it?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[RonD1120 58]

jakee

******Is that why you react like you do when anyone brings up negative things about Trump?

How do you perceive my reaction? You may have me confused with someone else. I believe I have been clear in my position as withholding evaluation until 2020.
So you don't believe or agree with any of the things said about Trump in the Raccoon anecdote?

I began that post with the qualifier that it was an amusing anecdote. The idea is that we want the problem in Washington fixed, regardless.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[DanG 1]

No, it was never discussed in town squares as commonplace, and it was certainly never discussed at work. That is, unless everyone was of the same religion and they were all agreeing that everyone else's religion sucked.

I honestly don't know where you got the idea that America used to be the wonderful land of thoughtful religious tolerance and open discussion. I have never experienced that in my life.

- Dan G

[wolfriverjoe 1,351]

kallend

***.....we are becoming a nation of victims where every Tom, Ricardo, and Hasid is a special group with special rights to a point where we don't even recognize the country we were born and raised in; "AND WE JUST WANT IT FI XED" and Trump is the only guy who seems to understand what the people want.

Were you raised in a country where the President had bragged of grabbing women by the genitals, of entering womens' changing rooms uninvited, had admitted adultery, mocked a disabled man, made racist remarks about a judge and refused to condemn neo-Nazis? I don't recall '50s America being like that.

Well, in the 50s, Jim Crow and segregation were still in full effect, women had virtually no rights (most rapes went unreported due to shame), the disabled were hidden away out of shame and fear, rich and powerful men had affairs (but were usually discreet enough not to brag about them publicly) and the KKK was very popular.

Nazi's weren't tolerated so much, mainly because a the memories of them in Europe were still pretty fresh.
But racism and bigotry towards anyone who wasn't white and Christian was still pretty popular.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[kallend 1,644]

jaybird18c

As compared to whom? Hillary Clinton? Are you serious. The Enabler-in-Chief? I don't think you can point to an example of sexual misconduct which Bill Clinton also did not do and which Hillary Clinton either did not turn a blind eye towards or even defend.

I think you replied to the wrong post. Either that or you are trying a major diversion since it has NOTHING to do with what I wrote.

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[kallend 1,644]

wolfriverjoe

******.....we are becoming a nation of victims where every Tom, Ricardo, and Hasid is a special group with special rights to a point where we don't even recognize the country we were born and raised in; "AND WE JUST WANT IT FI XED" and Trump is the only guy who seems to understand what the people want.

Were you raised in a country where the President had bragged of grabbing women by the genitals, of entering womens' changing rooms uninvited, had admitted adultery, mocked a disabled man, made racist remarks about a judge and refused to condemn neo-Nazis? I don't recall '50s America being like that.

Well, in the 50s, Jim Crow and segregation were still in full effect, women had virtually no rights (most rapes went unreported due to shame), the disabled were hidden away out of shame and fear, rich and powerful men had affairs (but were usually discreet enough not to brag about them publicly) and the KKK was very popular.

Nazi's weren't tolerated so much, mainly because a the memories of them in Europe were still pretty fresh.
But racism and bigotry towards anyone who wasn't white and Christian was still pretty popular.

Ron has made it very clear and unambiguous that he DOES want a return to the time of Jim Crow and segregation and the KKK, and where women knew their place. He also made it clear that he thinks a president who brags of grabbing women by the genitals, of entering womens' changing rooms uninvited, admits to adultery, mocks the disabled, makes racist remarks about a judge and refuses to condemn neo-Nazis is the right person to lead him there.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[jakee 1,257]

RonD1120

I began that post with the qualifier that it was an amusing anecdote. The idea is that we want the problem in Washington fixed, regardless.

But you have no reason to believe that Trump is more likely to do it than any other presidential candidate?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[jakee 1,257]

kallend

He also made it clear that he thinks a president who brags of grabbing women by the genitals, of entering womens' girls' changing rooms uninvited, admits to adultery, mocks the disabled, makes racist remarks about a judge and refuses to condemn neo-Nazis is the right person to lead him there.

Fixed it for you. If that could possibly be the appropriate term

Do you want to have an ideagasm?