Dr StrangeHarpper or: How I Learned to Stopped Worrying (About Global Warming) and Love CO2

[billvon 2,400]

>CO2 cannot be a very effective GHG then.

CO2 is responsible for 10-30% of the total greenhouse effect we see here on Earth, depending on its concentration in relation to other gases. Methane is a far more effective greenhouse gas, as is water vapor. CO2 is also far more persistent than either one of those gases, which is one reason it's a problem.

We are very fortunate that it's not more effective than that; we have increased the concentration by 50% and seen only a 1.7F rise in temperature.

[airdvr 197]

Oklahoma to end tax credit that propelled wind production
http://www.sacbee.com/news/business/article144995669.html

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"The growth of the wind industry in Oklahoma has been exponential," Mosier said. "It was pretty clear to us that we couldn't afford it. It was going to be a drain on the state treasury."

And so it begins.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[DanG 1]

FYI, the quoted individual is:

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Richard Mosier, an attorney in Claremore and a member of WindWaste, a nonprofit organization critical of the wind energy industry.

and from the article:

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Wind producers have invested more than $12 billion in Oklahoma, creating up to 9,000 jobs and paying almost $134 million in property taxes since 2004.

Yeah. The wind industry is clearly killing the OK economy.

- Dan G

[rehmwa 2]

DanG

FYI, the quoted individual is:

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Richard Mosier, an attorney in Claremore and a member of WindWaste, a nonprofit organization critical of the wind energy industry.

and from the article:

***Wind producers have invested more than $12 billion in Oklahoma, creating up to 9,000 jobs and paying almost $134 million in property taxes since 2004.

Yeah. The wind industry is clearly killing the OK economy.

oh no! an industry is doing just fine and doesn't need a government program to prop it up?

What will the poor Okies do?

(the fact that there was a tax credit program in the land of wind just indicates a hugely irresponsible policy fail in the first place)

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[rehmwa 2]

airdvr

Oklahoma to end tax credit that propelled wind production
http://www.sacbee.com/news/business/article144995669.html

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"The growth of the wind industry in Oklahoma has been exponential," Mosier said. "It was pretty clear to us that we couldn't afford it. It was going to be a drain on the state treasury."

And so it begins.

The idiot sounds like ending the program is to financially save the people of the state. OUR HERO!! (sarcasm)

Or he could just admit that the program isn't necessary and it's silly to send money after something that doesn't need it.

Or if he's a enviro-freak, he could just say that the program met its goal successfully and they are now putting it down.

either of the last two would at least be a bit less self serving

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[billvon 2,400]

One of those unexpected results of climate change. Not too much impact on people this time.
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Climate change causes glacial river in Yukon to change direction

Glacier retreated so much that its meltwater switched course, in an event not documented in modern times

By Brandie Weikle, CBC News
Posted: Apr 17, 2017 11:00 AM ET Last Updated: Apr 17, 2017 2:01 PM ET

Climate change has caused the massive Kaskawulsh Glacier in the Yukon to retreat so much that its meltwater abruptly switched direction, in the first documented case of "river piracy" in modern times.

Instead of flowing into the Slims River and then north to the Bering Sea, the water has changed course and now flows south toward the Kaskawulsh River, the Gulf of Alaska and the Pacific Ocean, scientists have found.

Also known as stream capture, river piracy is a term used to describe a geologic phenomenon where a stream or river is diverted toward another body of water. It's usually caused by a dramatic tectonic event, such as a landslide or glacial dam collapse.

"This was the first event we could find where river piracy occurred right under our noses and due to contemporary climate change," said Dan Shugar, a geoscientist at the University of Washington Tacoma and lead author of a study published Monday in the journal Nature Geoscience.
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[rushmc 18]

billvon

One of those unexpected results of climate change. Not too much impact on people this time.
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Climate change causes glacial river in Yukon to change direction

Glacier retreated so much that its meltwater switched course, in an event not documented in modern times

By Brandie Weikle, CBC News
Posted: Apr 17, 2017 11:00 AM ET Last Updated: Apr 17, 2017 2:01 PM ET

Climate change has caused the massive Kaskawulsh Glacier in the Yukon to retreat so much that its meltwater abruptly switched direction, in the first documented case of "river piracy" in modern times.

Instead of flowing into the Slims River and then north to the Bering Sea, the water has changed course and now flows south toward the Kaskawulsh River, the Gulf of Alaska and the Pacific Ocean, scientists have found.

Also known as stream capture, river piracy is a term used to describe a geologic phenomenon where a stream or river is diverted toward another body of water. It's usually caused by a dramatic tectonic event, such as a landslide or glacial dam collapse.

"This was the first event we could find where river piracy occurred right under our noses and due to contemporary climate change," said Dan Shugar, a geoscientist at the University of Washington Tacoma and lead author of a study published Monday in the journal Nature Geoscience.
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Yep

the climate changes

what a hell of a shock


and guess what!
It will continue to change regardless of what mankind does.
Cause that is what climate does......... it changes

Next.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[brenthutch 383]

rushmc

***One of those unexpected results of climate change. Not too much impact on people this time.
=============================
Climate change causes glacial river in Yukon to change direction

Glacier retreated so much that its meltwater switched course, in an event not documented in modern times

By Brandie Weikle, CBC News
Posted: Apr 17, 2017 11:00 AM ET Last Updated: Apr 17, 2017 2:01 PM ET

Climate change has caused the massive Kaskawulsh Glacier in the Yukon to retreat so much that its meltwater abruptly switched direction, in the first documented case of "river piracy" in modern times.

Instead of flowing into the Slims River and then north to the Bering Sea, the water has changed course and now flows south toward the Kaskawulsh River, the Gulf of Alaska and the Pacific Ocean, scientists have found.

Also known as stream capture, river piracy is a term used to describe a geologic phenomenon where a stream or river is diverted toward another body of water. It's usually caused by a dramatic tectonic event, such as a landslide or glacial dam collapse.

"This was the first event we could find where river piracy occurred right under our noses and due to contemporary climate change," said Dan Shugar, a geoscientist at the University of Washington Tacoma and lead author of a study published Monday in the journal Nature Geoscience.
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Yep

the climate changes

what a hell of a shock


and guess what!
It will continue to change regardless of what mankind does.
Cause that is what climate does......... it changes

Next.

If we only had a carbon tax

[kallend 1,625]

For 28 months in a row, record high temperatures in the USA have outnumbered record lows. No previous streak has been this long (the next longest streak, of 19 months, occurred March 2011 to September 2012.

In several instances, such as November 2016 and February of this year, record highs outnumbered records lows by multiples of 15 to 40 or more.

Nothing to see here, move along please.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[DJL 232]

kallend

For 28 months in a row, record high temperatures in the USA have outnumbered record lows. No previous streak has been this long (the next longest streak, of 19 months, occurred March 2011 to September 2012.

In several instances, such as November 2016 and February of this year, record highs outnumbered records lows by multiples of 15 to 40 or more.

Nothing to see here, move along please.

You missed Rush's new stance. He finally agrees that Global Warming exists but doesn't think we can or should to anything to stop the man-made aspects of it.

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[brenthutch 383]

billvon

One of those unexpected results of climate change. Not too much impact on people this time.
=============================
Climate change causes glacial river in Yukon to change direction

Glacier retreated so much that its meltwater switched course, in an event not documented in modern times

By Brandie Weikle, CBC News
Posted: Apr 17, 2017 11:00 AM ET Last Updated: Apr 17, 2017 2:01 PM ET

Climate change has caused the massive Kaskawulsh Glacier in the Yukon to retreat so much that its meltwater abruptly switched direction, in the first documented case of "river piracy" in modern times.

Instead of flowing into the Slims River and then north to the Bering Sea, the water has changed course and now flows south toward the Kaskawulsh River, the Gulf of Alaska and the Pacific Ocean, scientists have found.

Also known as stream capture, river piracy is a term used to describe a geologic phenomenon where a stream or river is diverted toward another body of water. It's usually caused by a dramatic tectonic event, such as a landslide or glacial dam collapse.

"This was the first event we could find where river piracy occurred right under our noses and due to contemporary climate change," said Dan Shugar, a geoscientist at the University of Washington Tacoma and lead author of a study published Monday in the journal Nature Geoscience.
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The climate changed from winter to spring, and snow melted. Ooo scary.

[billvon 2,400]

>The climate changed from winter to spring, and snow melted. Ooo scary.

No, that would be the "season."

The climate changed from 1800 to 2016, and a glacier melted, and a river changed direction. Not too scary to me - but you can be scared if you like.

[rushmc 18]

DJL

***For 28 months in a row, record high temperatures in the USA have outnumbered record lows. No previous streak has been this long (the next longest streak, of 19 months, occurred March 2011 to September 2012.

In several instances, such as November 2016 and February of this year, record highs outnumbered records lows by multiples of 15 to 40 or more.

Nothing to see here, move along please.

You missed Rush's new stance. He finally agrees that Global Warming exists but doesn't think we can or should to anything to stop the man-made aspects of it.

Now you are spinning

I have always said climate changes. I do not think man has much if anything to do with it.

No finally about it.

But do expose a point I have made before that the naming of this so called man made interference is done purposely to confuse the issue.

So please, march on in your happy world. Someone needs to live there I suppose.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 2,400]

>I have always said climate changes.

"There's only one problem with climate change - it ended in 1998!"

[rushmc 18]

billvon

>I have always said climate changes.

"There's only one problem with climate change - it ended in 1998!"

Ah yes, back to the name change to cause confusion tactic.

You might recall that back then you alarmists called it "man made global warming". You were making temp change predictions that have still not came true.

Actually I should have stated that man made warming never existed. Which is more correct.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 2,400]

>Actually I should have stated that man made warming never existed. Which is more
>correct.

Hmm. Usually you are type 2 denier on Tuesdays.

[SkyDekker 1,123]

"I have always said climate changes."

"There's only one problem with climate change - it ended in 1998!"

"back to the name change to cause confusion tactic."

[DJL 232]

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The climate changed from winter to spring, and snow melted. Ooo scary.

When I lived up North I wouldn't have called that much of a change, just a short period that went from mud to sun and then back to snow again.

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[brenthutch 383]

https://www.thenation.com/article/the-other-poison-gas-killing-syrians-carbon-dioxide-emissions/


"The gas attack in Syria on April 4 consumed the world’s attention and galvanized the Trump White House, leading to the launch of 59 cruise missiles on a small airport from which the regime of Bashar al-Assad has been bombing the fundamentalist rebels in Idlib province. The pictures of suffering children, Trump said, had touched him. Yet the president and most of his party are committed to increasing the daily release of hundreds of thousands of tons of a far more deadly gas—carbon dioxide. Climate scientist James Hansen has described our current emissions as like setting off 400,000 Hiroshima atomic bombs each day, every day of the year. "

There you have it CO2 is "far more deadly" then sarin nerve agent or nuclear holocaust.

[billvon 2,400]

>There you have it CO2 is "far more deadly" then sarin nerve agent or nuclear holocaust.

If you say so.

[brenthutch 383]

billvon

>There you have it CO2 is "far more deadly" then sarin nerve agent or nuclear holocaust.

If you say so.

Not me, leading climate scientists James Hansen and Michael Mann.

[DJL 232]

brenthutch

https://www.thenation.com/article/the-other-poison-gas-killing-syrians-carbon-dioxide-emissions/


"The gas attack in Syria on April 4 consumed the world’s attention and galvanized the Trump White House, leading to the launch of 59 cruise missiles on a small airport from which the regime of Bashar al-Assad has been bombing the fundamentalist rebels in Idlib province. The pictures of suffering children, Trump said, had touched him. Yet the president and most of his party are committed to increasing the daily release of hundreds of thousands of tons of a far more deadly gas—carbon dioxide. Climate scientist James Hansen has described our current emissions as like setting off 400,000 Hiroshima atomic bombs each day, every day of the year. "

There you have it CO2 is "far more deadly" then sarin nerve agent or nuclear holocaust.

Oh boy, I get the point they're trying to make but that may be a little bit hyperbolic.

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[billvon 2,400]

>Not me, leading climate scientists James Hansen and Michael Mann.

No, they did not say that. Juan Cole, the author, did; he is a history professor with degrees in religious and Middle Eastern studies. That's where you got the words you quoted.

You resort to "alternate facts" pretty often; sometimes you get away with it. Probably a mistake to link to the material that proves you wrong, though. Even in the age of Trump, people sometimes check.

[kallend 1,625]

billvon

>Not me, leading climate scientists James Hansen and Michael Mann.

No, they did not say that. Juan Cole, the author, did; he is a history professor with degrees in religious and Middle Eastern studies. That's where you got the words you quoted.

You resort to "alternate facts" pretty often; sometimes you get away with it. Probably a mistake to link to the material that proves you wrong, though. Even in the age of Trump, people sometimes check.

It's a trick he learned from Marc Rush.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[brenthutch 383]

"Climate scientist James Hansen has described our current emissions as like setting off 400,000 Hiroshima atomic bombs each day, every day of the year. "