billvon 2,476 #1 June 1, 2016 Can't make this stuff up: ========= New York June 1, 2016 House Republicans Hope to Pass This Bill Before Donald Trump Takes Office By Eric Levitz Congressman Blake Farenthold of Texas once lamented the House’s failure to impeach Barack Obama. As of 2013, Farenthold was still questioning the authenticity of the president’s long-form birth certificate and, thus, his qualifications for the presidency. But now the right-wing representative is trying to pass a bill promoting free speech online before the illegitimate tyrant leaves office — because he doesn’t trust the great patriot he’ll be voting for in November to support his conception of the First Amendment. . . . “Obama will sign this. I don’t think Trump will,” the Texas Republican told Politico Wednesday. But why wouldn’t the GOP nominee support legislation that prevents the powerful from using their financial resources to suppress free speech online? After a New York Times business editor published a book that called his stated net worth into question, Trump boasted, “I spent a couple of bucks on legal fees, and they spent a whole lot more … I did it to make his life miserable, which I’m happy about.” Trump lost that case. . . . Regardless, Farenthold believes his bill protects Americans’ constitutional rights. And he trusts Obama — but not Trump — to sign it. This fact may have some bearing on the partisan squabble over which of these men is, in fact, a power-mad tyrant who threatens our democracy. ======== Let's see if Obama has more integrity than the GOP, who have refused to do their jobs until a new president is elected. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #2 June 1, 2016 Opinion piece from the LA Times today. Yes, it’s an opinion piece. It’s also an opinion I happen to share. I guarantee you if Trump had won the Democratic party primary I would fight him tooth and nail. This should cross all boundaries. Quoteby The Times Editorial Board It’s customary, once a candidate has secured a party’s presidential nomination, for former rivals and party elders to line up behind the victor. Of course, some of their endorsements are more enthusiastic than others, but generally it isn’t just about promoting party unity; typically, leaders of a party will sincerely regard their own nominee as a superior alternative to the other party’s candidate. But there is nothing typical about the impending nomination by the Republican Party of Donald J. Trump. Trump’s willful ignorance, hair-trigger temperament and bigoted comments about women and minorities absolve prominent Republicans of any obligation to fall into line even if they agree with him on the issues. (In fact, on several points he seems to depart from the party’s core positions.) Party loyalty is no excuse for supporting a manifestly unqualified and possibly dangerous candidate. Full piece here; http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-trump-gop-20160531-snap-story.htmlquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #3 June 1, 2016 A single Republican is not the GOP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,476 #4 June 2, 2016 >A single Republican is not the GOP. Correct - but he certainly represents their cause. From Politico: ============= The fight to curb litigation is a traditional cause for Republicans in Congress, who have long condemned Democrats and trial lawyers for engaging in what they see as a dangerous symbiosis. According to this GOP critique, the Democrats generate nit-picky and easily broken regulations that ensure a plethora of tort cases, which the lawyers reward by acting as one of Democrats' most reliable sources of political money — and, the Republicans argue, driving up the costs of doing business for the entire U.S. economy. Farenthold's bill faces tough odds of gaining traction in a presidential campaign year that will see Congress out of town for long stretches of the calendar. But Yelp's Crenshaw said Trump inadvertently gave the bill a boost of support on the Hill when he proclaimed a desire to “open up our libel laws” to make it easier to sue the news media. ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,412 #5 June 2, 2016 And you know who loves litigation? http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/01/donald-trump-lawsuits-legal-battles/84995854/"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 644 #6 June 2, 2016 I hear he has a new book out...first book ever printed with four chapter elevens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,412 #7 June 2, 2016 "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #8 June 3, 2016 ryoderAnd you know who loves litigation? http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/01/donald-trump-lawsuits-legal-battles/84995854/ Yeah - Lawyers - Like Clinton and Obama.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,412 #9 June 3, 2016 turtlespeed***And you know who loves litigation? http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/01/donald-trump-lawsuits-legal-battles/84995854/ Yeah - Lawyers - Like Clinton and Obama. Who is the problem? The litigants who initiate frivolous suits, or the attorneys they hire? e.g. is Kim Gibbs the problem, or is it her attorneys we blame?"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,280 #10 June 3, 2016 turtlespeed***And you know who loves litigation? http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/01/donald-trump-lawsuits-legal-battles/84995854/ Yeah - Lawyers - Like Clinton and Obama. Yes, that's true. The work Obama did as a civil rights attorney, such as leading successful class action suits over discriinatory banking practices, show him to be a far more frivolous abuser of civil litigation than Donald "Am so building a skyscraper!" Trump. Right.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,476 #11 June 3, 2016 >Yeah - Lawyers - Like Clinton and Obama. Would be interesting to compare the number of frivolous lawsuits filed by Obama vs Trump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #12 June 3, 2016 billvon>Yeah - Lawyers - Like Clinton and Obama. Would be interesting to compare the number of frivolous lawsuits filed by Obama vs Trump. Are you meaning Deemed frivolous? Perhaps Opined as frivolous? Who gets to define frivolous?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,280 #13 June 3, 2016 turtlespeed***>Yeah - Lawyers - Like Clinton and Obama. Would be interesting to compare the number of frivolous lawsuits filed by Obama vs Trump. Are you meaning Deemed frivolous? Perhaps Opined as frivolous? Who gets to define frivolous? Try all of them or none of them, I doubt it matters. How many lawsuits has Trump personally filed vs how many did Obama work on during his entire law career (not just a community organiser, then)? Who really, really likes lawsuits? It really, really is the guy in the toupe.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,476 #14 June 3, 2016 >Are you meaning Deemed frivolous? That meet the definition for frivolous. For example, someone suing a comedian for making fun of him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,412 #15 June 4, 2016 billvon>Are you meaning Deemed frivolous? That meet the definition for frivolous. For example, someone suing a comedian for making fun of him. Perfect example: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/donald-trump-withdraws-bill-maher-432675 Come on, Turtle; Let's hear your defense of it."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,476 #16 June 4, 2016 >Come on, Turtle; Let's hear your defense of it. "But . . . but . . . Benghazi!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,683 #17 June 4, 2016 jakee******>Yeah - Lawyers - Like Clinton and Obama. Would be interesting to compare the number of frivolous lawsuits filed by Obama vs Trump. Are you meaning Deemed frivolous? Perhaps Opined as frivolous? Who gets to define frivolous? Try all of them or none of them, I doubt it matters. How many lawsuits has Trump personally filed vs how many did Obama work on during his entire law career (not just a community organiser, then)? Who really, really likes lawsuits? It really, really is the guy in the toupe. But they're great, really great lawsuits.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #18 June 4, 2016 quadeOpinion piece from the LA Times today. Yes, it’s an opinion piece. It’s also an opinion I happen to share. I guarantee you if Trump had won the Democratic party primary I would fight him tooth and nail. This should cross all boundaries. Quoteby The Times Editorial Board It’s customary, once a candidate has secured a party’s presidential nomination, for former rivals and party elders to line up behind the victor. Of course, some of their endorsements are more enthusiastic than others, but generally it isn’t just about promoting party unity; typically, leaders of a party will sincerely regard their own nominee as a superior alternative to the other party’s candidate. But there is nothing typical about the impending nomination by the Republican Party of Donald J. Trump. Trump’s willful ignorance, hair-trigger temperament and bigoted comments about women and minorities absolve prominent Republicans of any obligation to fall into line even if they agree with him on the issues. (In fact, on several points he seems to depart from the party’s core positions.) Party loyalty is no excuse for supporting a manifestly unqualified and possibly dangerous candidate. Full piece here; http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-trump-gop-20160531-snap-story.html The HELL you would Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #19 June 4, 2016 ryoder***>Are you meaning Deemed frivolous? That meet the definition for frivolous. For example, someone suing a comedian for making fun of him. Perfect example: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/donald-trump-withdraws-bill-maher-432675 Come on, Turtle; Let's hear your defense of it. Why would I defend him? Why would I offer any defense? I want to know who gets to define what a frivolous lawsuit is - that way I can track the information and give an answer closer to reality than what is offered by climate scientists. I have no doubt that Trump has filed more lawsuits - he's a much busier guy than Obama. He multitasks an order of magnitude more than Obama is capable of. The question was a quantifiable one. Or was it just another typical bullshit rhetorical question meant to belittle someone?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,280 #20 June 4, 2016 QuoteI have no doubt that Trump has filed more lawsuits - he's a much busier guy than Obama. He multitasks an order of magnitude more than Obama is capable of. Speaking of bullshit rhetoric... QuoteThe question was a quantifiable one. Or was it just another typical bullshit rhetorical question meant to belittle someone? Trump sued a guy who said his net worth was a lot lower than he claimed it was. Even though it is. He sued a guy who said a tower he was planning to build might not get built. And it didn't. Obama ever done anything like that?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #21 June 5, 2016 jakeeQuoteI have no doubt that Trump has filed more lawsuits - he's a much busier guy than Obama. He multitasks an order of magnitude more than Obama is capable of. Speaking of bullshit rhetoric... QuoteThe question was a quantifiable one. Or was it just another typical bullshit rhetorical question meant to belittle someone? Trump sued a guy who said his net worth was a lot lower than he claimed it was. Even though it is. He sued a guy who said a tower he was planning to build might not get built. And it didn't. Obama ever done anything like that? Sure. Let's compare the number of law suits filed vs the number of ears in business. Shall we? QuoteSenior attorneys at the small firm where he worked say he was a strong writer and researcher, but was involved in relatively few cases -- about 30 -- and spent only four years as a full-time lawyer before entering politics. So he works on 30 in 4 years.. . Just to equal that The Donald would have to have been involved with about 412 or so lawsuits. How many of the 30 were dismissed and deemed frivolous?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #22 June 5, 2016 http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/01/donald-trump-lawsuits-legal-battles/84995854/ 1900 lawsuits as the plaintiff, 1450 as the defendant and 150 Bankruptcy/otherYesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #23 June 5, 2016 PhreeZonehttp://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/01/donald-trump-lawsuits-legal-battles/84995854/ 1900 lawsuits as the plaintiff, 1450 as the defendant and 150 Bankruptcy/other How an were deemed as frivolous? How an of Obama's were?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,280 #24 June 5, 2016 Quote Just to equal that The Donald would have to have been involved with about 412 or so lawsuits. Haaaaaahahahahahahahah!That didn't turn out the way you expected, did it?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,683 #25 June 6, 2016 turtlespeed***QuoteI have no doubt that Trump has filed more lawsuits - he's a much busier guy than Obama. He multitasks an order of magnitude more than Obama is capable of. Speaking of bullshit rhetoric... QuoteThe question was a quantifiable one. Or was it just another typical bullshit rhetorical question meant to belittle someone? Trump sued a guy who said his net worth was a lot lower than he claimed it was. Even though it is. He sued a guy who said a tower he was planning to build might not get built. And it didn't. Obama ever done anything like that? Sure. Let's compare the number of law suits filed vs the number of ears in business. Shall we? QuoteSenior attorneys at the small firm where he worked say he was a strong writer and researcher, but was involved in relatively few cases -- about 30 -- and spent only four years as a full-time lawyer before entering politics. So he works on 30 in 4 years.. . Just to equal that The Donald would have to have been involved with about 412 or so lawsuits. How many of the 30 were dismissed and deemed frivolous? Lawyers don't sue people, their clients do. You are comparing apples to oranges, and have clearly lost the argument.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites