ryoder 1,390 #1 March 2, 2016 Long story about how a fraud was exposed. He did have an "interesting" background, but not the one he claimed. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/06/magazine/the-plot-to-take-down-a-fox-news-analyst.html"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #2 March 2, 2016 ryoderLong story about how a fraud was exposed. He did have an "interesting" background, but not the one he claimed. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/06/magazine/the-plot-to-take-down-a-fox-news-analyst.html Wow.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #3 March 2, 2016 ryoderLong story about how a fraud was exposed. He did have an "interesting" background, but not the one he claimed. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/06/magazine/the-plot-to-take-down-a-fox-news-analyst.html Fascinating article. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #4 March 2, 2016 ryoderLong story about how a fraud was exposed. He did have an "interesting" background, but not the one he claimed. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/06/magazine/the-plot-to-take-down-a-fox-news-analyst.html Whenever someone claims to be a CIA employee, I take it as a given that they are bullshitting. The number of people who work directly for the CIA is vanishingly small, mostly administrative types; honest to god spooks always have a very legitimate cover. Ninja are routinely depicted as black-clad types that lurk in the shadows, but are actually very innocuous looking. When the Master of the household is killed and the gardener is trembling in fear, giving an account of ghostly assassins who came and left without a trace, that furthers the myth - and takes the heat off the gardener, who is the real ninja. Similarly, the only people I would guess were spooks always had a very legitimate job, one that put them where they could pick up on key details of what is going on. They had a perfectly normal existence for all intents and purposes, and would vociferously deny being an intelligence operative if asked. As a matter of survival, even hinting at having been a spook would be out of the question. In any event, I doubt the credentials of anyone touted by media as being 'ex-CIA,' and expect that the people in Langley are quite happy to have as much disinformation out there as possible, which takes the pressure off their own 'ninja/gardener' types. The fact that an 'expert' of any stripe was revealed to be a charlatan is hardly surprising. BSBD, Winsor P.S.: "Travels With My Aunt" nails it. Greene was a spook. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #5 March 2, 2016 Quote P.S.: "Travels With My Aunt" nails it. Greene was a spook. I read an interview with Le Carre recently about adaptations of his books. The first one to be made into a film was 'The Spy Who Came In From The Cold' and he was worried that the screenplay would lose his gritty, low key spycraft and introduce lots of unrealistic cliches... Turned out the screenwriter had trained SOE operatives during WW2 and knew more about genuine undercover work than he did!Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #6 March 2, 2016 jakee Quote P.S.: "Travels With My Aunt" nails it. Greene was a spook. I read an interview with Le Carre recently about adaptations of his books. The first one to be made into a film was 'The Spy Who Came In From The Cold' and he was worried that the screenplay would lose his gritty, low key spycraft and introduce lots of unrealistic cliches... Turned out the screenwriter had trained SOE operatives during WW2 and knew more about genuine undercover work than he did! David Cornwell didn't become a spook until the Cold War. I concluded that he was on the job when a number of scenarios turned up in his stories that turned out to have been classified at the time. Given the Official Secrets Act (a rather unforgiving bit of legislation), the only way he could have published the work without being 'disappeared' is with official approval, which is only afforded to employees. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #7 March 2, 2016 Quote In any event, I doubt the credentials of anyone touted by media as being 'ex-CIA,' and expect that the people in Langley are quite happy to have as much disinformation out there as possible, which takes the pressure off their own 'ninja/gardener' types. Why are planting seeds of doubt? Just what are you digging at?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #8 March 2, 2016 turtlespeedQuote In any event, I doubt the credentials of anyone touted by media as being 'ex-CIA,' and expect that the people in Langley are quite happy to have as much disinformation out there as possible, which takes the pressure off their own 'ninja/gardener' types. Why are planting seeds of doubt? Just what are you digging at? "I'm not a spy, but I played one on TV." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TriGirl 268 #9 March 2, 2016 winsor *** Quote In any event, I doubt the credentials of anyone touted by media as being 'ex-CIA,' and expect that the people in Langley are quite happy to have as much disinformation out there as possible, which takes the pressure off their own 'ninja/gardener' types. Why are planting seeds of doubt? Just what are you digging at? "I'm not a spy, but I played one on TV." Yeah, and I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night. See the upside, and always wear your parachute! -- Christopher Titus Shut Up & Jump! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #10 March 2, 2016 I just blame it on the booze. . .Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #12 March 3, 2016 winsor***Quote In any event, I doubt the credentials of anyone touted by media as being 'ex-CIA,' and expect that the people in Langley are quite happy to have as much disinformation out there as possible, which takes the pressure off their own 'ninja/gardener' types. Why are planting seeds of doubt? Just what are you digging at? "I'm not a spy, but I played one on TV." The irony is: That is a very true statement.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #13 March 3, 2016 turtlespeed*** "I'm not a spy, but I played one on TV." The irony is: That is a very true statement. Yeah, I kind of liked it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites