brenthutch 388 #1 February 19, 2016 Fighting global warming will require “profound lifestyle changes” for millions of people, according to leaked European Union documents obtained by The Guardian. “It will require exploring possibilities for realising ‘negative’ emissions as well as profound lifestyle changes of current generations,” read the document laying out the European Commission’s agenda. It was presented to foreign ministers in Belgium For years, U.N. officials have been pushing rich countries to cut red meat out of their diets because of methane emissions from cows and the amount of water it takes to sustain livestock. “Keeping meat consumption to levels recommended by health authorities would lower emissions and reduce heart disease, cancer, and other diseases,” former U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan told The Guardian last year. “And of course there are alternative sources of protein. For example, raising insects as an animal protein source,” Annan said. “Insects have a very good conversion rate from feed to meat. They make up part of the diet of two billion people and are commonly eaten in many parts of the world.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,417 #2 February 19, 2016 Quote“And of course there are alternative sources of protein. For example, raising insects as an animal protein source,” Annan said. “Insects have a very good conversion rate from feed to meat. They make up part of the diet of two billion people and are commonly eaten in many parts of the world.” A lot of people on World Team 2006 tried fried bugs for the first time in Thailand. They are popular there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,635 #3 February 19, 2016 Ever eat food died red with carmine dye? Kissed a woman with red lipstick (or worn it yourself)? Taken a red colored pill? Or a red candy (Skittles...) If you have, you have certainly ingested the product of the cochineal bug.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 388 #4 February 19, 2016 I have actually eaten bugs (grubs&grasshoppers) I would rather eat a ribeye. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
434 2 #5 February 19, 2016 brenthutchI have actually eaten bugs (grubs&grasshoppers) Im sure half of worlds population already do on daily basis almost. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #6 February 20, 2016 kallend Ever eat food died red with carmine dye? Kissed a woman with red lipstick (or worn it yourself)? Taken a red colored pill? Or a red candy (Skittles...) If you have, you have certainly ingested the product of the cochineal bug. That right there is funny. Next thing you're gonna say is that women slather whale poop all over themselves so they can smell better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 262 #7 February 20, 2016 The simpler alternative is to take heed of another UN recommendation. 2016 has been declared by the UN as the International Year of Pulses. So if you don't want to go as far as the bug thing, you can just have a helping of lentils for now.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,635 #8 February 20, 2016 muff528 *** Ever eat food died red with carmine dye? Kissed a woman with red lipstick (or worn it yourself)? Taken a red colored pill? Or a red candy (Skittles...) If you have, you have certainly ingested the product of the cochineal bug. That right there is funny. Next thing you're gonna say is that women slather whale poop all over themselves so they can smell better. Seems to be some dispute about which end of the whale it emerges from. Anyhow, it's way too expensive now, a synthetic form, ambroxide, is used instead.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #9 February 20, 2016 kallend Seems to be some dispute about which end of the whale it emerges from. AFAIC, if it's made in the intestine and eventually ejected, it's poop. Doesn't matter which way it goes from there. Quote Anyhow, it's way too expensive now, a synthetic form, ambroxide, is used instead. Well, there goes one of the last few reasons I go to the beach. I guess all that's left now are fishing and ogling sightseeing. ETA - also, to stay on topic, I don't mind eating the occasional bug. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,393 #10 February 20, 2016 We all eat bugs. Some people just don't realize it: http://www.fda.gov/Food/GuidanceRegulation/GuidanceDocumentsRegulatoryInformation/SanitationTransportation/ucm056174.htm"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,393 #11 February 20, 2016 Good news for our Jewish members: The Torah forbids creeping things that crawl the earth (Hebrew: sheqets).[6] and "flying creeping things",[7][8] with four exceptions: two types of locust, the beetle/cricket, and the grasshopper. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosher_foods "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #12 February 20, 2016 Always been interested in how various (specific) food prohibitions originated and became encoded in some cultural, ethnic, or religious doctrines and not others. I imagine trial and error over millennia. "Don't eat that! Og tried one of those and you know what happened to him! That's what happened to Oop, too! Better write that down somewhere!" "What you mean 'write' ??" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anachronist 2 #13 February 23, 2016 Just so everyone is a little less stupid... What they are referring to are trophic levels, in retard terms, "who eats who." There is some variation but the rule of thumb for each ecosystem is an order of magnitude (thats times 10) of consumption from a lower trophic level to create the same amount of biomass at a higher one. Some animals interact with few trophic levels (e.g. cows go straight to grass/corn whatever), others like apex predators go through several (e.g. game fish and sharks). Anyway, using the rule of thumb (I'm sure it has actually been experimentally quantified somewhere) for a cow that weighs 1,000lbs, it would need to consume 10,000lbs of grass/corn or whatever. You only get about 600lbs from it so 600lbs of steak costs 10,000 lbs of corn. Take a tuna for example, say it eats anchovies, that eats some smaller fish, that eats plankton. Thats 10 times 10 times 10 lbs of food consumed per lb of tuna produced. So a 1,000lb tuna "costs" 1,000,000 lbs of plankton. So you can see where eating critters or plants at the bottom trophic levels is more efficient. i.e. less energy consumed. *Did a little bit of reading about cows, it depends on how you define "beef" but the x10 rule is roughly correct from birth to slaughter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 388 #14 February 23, 2016 That would explain why tuna tastes 1000 times better than plankton. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,635 #15 February 23, 2016 brenthutchThat would explain why tuna tastes 1000 times better than plankton. How do you know that?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,918 #16 February 23, 2016 kallend***That would explain why tuna tastes 1000 times better than plankton. How do you know that? He did the math in the "new style". And I agree with his math. Also beef is 1000 times tastier than tuna. I can prove it with science. (sort of) Trust me.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 388 #17 February 23, 2016 kallend***That would explain why tuna tastes 1000 times better than plankton. How do you know that? That is what the models predict. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 256 #18 February 23, 2016 gowlerk******That would explain why tuna tastes 1000 times better than plankton. How do you know that? He did the math in the "new style". And I agree with his math. Also beef is 1000 times tastier than tuna. I can prove it with science. (sort of) Trust me. But how do you explain bacon?Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,918 #19 February 23, 2016 QuoteBut how do you explain bacon? Bacon is not explainable by math. It is of a level technically not possible. Einstein was working on the problem, but his Rabbi advised him to stop as his soul could be in danger. (Before I get slammed for this, yes, I know he was an Athiest)Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 388 #20 February 23, 2016 gowlerkQuoteBut how do you explain bacon? Bacon is not explainable by math. It is of a level technically not possible. Mike dropped! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites