ryoder 1,397 #1 May 20, 2015 http://www.vice.com/read/rand-paul-is-filibustering-the-patriot-act-right-now-vgtrn Kudos to Paul!!! Live updates: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2015/may/20/rand-paul-senate-filibuster-nsa-spying-patriot-act-live"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #2 May 21, 2015 ryoderhttp://www.vice.com/read/rand-paul-is-filibustering-the-patriot-act-right-now-vgtrn Kudos to Paul!!! Live updates: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2015/may/20/rand-paul-senate-filibuster-nsa-spying-patriot-act-live Atta Boy! . . . . Still not voting for you for prez, but WTG.VI'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,426 #3 May 21, 2015 Good for him! Probably won't do much, but I am glad someone is trying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,397 #4 May 21, 2015 Ron Wyden is working with him. Excellent! http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sen-paul-filibusters-patriot-act-renewal-sort-n362121"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 291 #5 May 21, 2015 turtlespeed Atta Boy! . . . . Still not voting for you for prez, but WTG.V Yes, what you said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,397 #6 May 21, 2015 Live video: http://digg.com/video/rand-paul-filibustering-live"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,397 #7 May 21, 2015 Ted Cruz even participated near the end. Paul yielded the floor about 10m before midnight."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #8 May 21, 2015 ryoderTed Cruz even participated near the end. LOL. "Uh.... Me, too!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #9 May 21, 2015 Didn't they need to go till 12:01? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #10 May 21, 2015 cvfd1399Didn't they need to go till 12:01? To do what? The "filibuster" wasn't practical, simply symbolic. It never had a chance of actually stopping anything.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #11 May 21, 2015 I read that if he was able to go to 12:01 it would allow another day of discussion, which is what he wanted. Technically he could have the floor until 1 or 2 am iirc, but all that was needed to allow it was for him to talk till 12:01 for the second day of talks to automatically kick in. Do you want this to be renewed? With your attitude it seems like it. I'm don't care who stands up for this from any party its a good thing to not let this renew. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,397 #12 May 21, 2015 cvfd1399 Didn't they need to go till 12:01? That was what I read soon after it started. All I can figure is he was anxious to not miss any more of Lettermans last show."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #13 May 21, 2015 quade***Didn't they need to go till 12:01? To do what? The "filibuster" wasn't practical, simply symbolic. It never had a chance of actually stopping anything. Correct. It's from the Bernie Sanders school of political theater. Do a "filibuster" that isn't a filibuster. Make everyone go "Yeah yeah" as you fill it with populist sentiment. And cash in on the political capital. Time to end the dual track rules. Make a filibuster mean something and have a political risk. Note: I wholly support the e D of the Patriot Act. But I would prefer that it not just be a reason for political theater My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,141 #14 May 21, 2015 lawrocket******Didn't they need to go till 12:01? To do what? The "filibuster" wasn't practical, simply symbolic. It never had a chance of actually stopping anything. Correct. It's from the Bernie Sanders school of political theater. Do a "filibuster" that isn't a filibuster. Make everyone go "Yeah yeah" as you fill it with populist sentiment. And cash in on the political capital. Time to end the dual track rules. Make a filibuster mean something and have a political risk. Note: I wholly support the e D of the Patriot Act. But I would prefer that it not just be a reason for political theater +1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #15 May 21, 2015 cvfd1399Do you want this to be renewed? With your attitude it seems like it. I'm don't care who stands up for this from any party its a good thing to not let this renew. If you have any notion that I want the "Patriot" act renewed, you truly know nothing about me nor my politics.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #16 May 21, 2015 quade ***Do you want this to be renewed? With your attitude it seems like it. I'm don't care who stands up for this from any party its a good thing to not let this renew. If you have any notion that I want the "Patriot" act renewed, you truly know nothing about me nor my politics. It's a lot closer to I hate whatever the republicans do even if it is good for everyone.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #17 May 21, 2015 turtlespeed ******Do you want this to be renewed? With your attitude it seems like it. I'm don't care who stands up for this from any party its a good thing to not let this renew. If you have any notion that I want the "Patriot" act renewed, you truly know nothing about me nor my politics. It's a lot closer to I hate whatever the republicans do even if it is good for everyone.And again, if anyone believes that, they are simply wrong. I believe a good idea is a good idea regardless of where it comes from. I believe bad actions are bad actions regardless of where they come from. I will admit, my notion of a good idea and a good action might be in disagreement with some others, but it it has zero to do with whether the person has an R or D associated with their name.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #18 May 21, 2015 quade *********Do you want this to be renewed? With your attitude it seems like it. I'm don't care who stands up for this from any party its a good thing to not let this renew. If you have any notion that I want the "Patriot" act renewed, you truly know nothing about me nor my politics. It's a lot closer to I hate whatever the republicans do even if it is good for everyone.And again, if anyone believes that, they are simply wrong. I believe a good idea is a good idea regardless of where it comes from. I believe bad actions are bad action regardless of where it comes from. I will admit, my notion of a good idea and a good action might be in disagreement with some others, but it it has zero to do with whether the person has an R or D associated with their name. I wish I could bold the smiley.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #19 May 21, 2015 QuoteNote: I wholly support the e D of the Patriot Act. But I would prefer that it not just be a reason for political theater The Patriot Act was a vile power grab given life via political theater. So I have no real problem with it dying by the same sword. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #20 May 21, 2015 Andy9o8QuoteNote: I wholly support the e D of the Patriot Act. But I would prefer that it not just be a reason for political theater The Patriot Act was a vile power grab given life via political theater. So I have no real problem with it dying by the same sword. I have no problem with it dying. Or being killed. But it isn't killed by wielding a Nerf sword. Rand Paul just did a campaign speech. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #21 May 21, 2015 lawrocket***QuoteNote: I wholly support the e D of the Patriot Act. But I would prefer that it not just be a reason for political theater The Patriot Act was a vile power grab given life via political theater. So I have no real problem with it dying by the same sword. I have no problem with it dying. Or being killed. But it isn't killed by wielding a Nerf sword. Rand Paul just did a campaign speech. Oh, no doubt. He uses the filibuster well, as he has before, to get himself every politician's life-blood: lots of publicity. And it costs him nothing. Smart tactic. He's still an aspergery little weirdo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,397 #22 May 21, 2015 Anyone catch Ted Cruz citing "The Blues Brothers"?I saw it live last night, but don't find a video, however here is an article mentioning it: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/05/21/meet-the-blues-brothers-of-the-senate/ "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #23 May 21, 2015 Andy9o8******QuoteNote: I wholly support the e D of the Patriot Act. But I would prefer that it not just be a reason for political theater The Patriot Act was a vile power grab given life via political theater. So I have no real problem with it dying by the same sword. I have no problem with it dying. Or being killed. But it isn't killed by wielding a Nerf sword. Rand Paul just did a campaign speech. Oh, no doubt. He uses the filibuster well, as he has before, to get himself every politician's life-blood: lots of publicity. And it costs him nothing. Smart tactic. He's still an aspergery little weirdo. As I said, it worked to perfection for Bernie Sanders. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #24 May 21, 2015 Quote As I said, it worked to perfection for Bernie Sanders. Yeah, but Paul is an aspergery little weird guy, while Sanders is.... Oh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #25 May 21, 2015 quade ***Do you want this to be renewed? With your attitude it seems like it. I'm don't care who stands up for this from any party its a good thing to not let this renew. If you have any notion that I want the "Patriot" act renewed, you truly know nothing about me nor my politics. Ok I took it as you were pissed at him for even trying a "silly fillibuster". Even if it was just publicity for himself, or just a silly stall tactic it still made TONS of news and brought MILLIONS of people to read about whats going on, which is a good thing in my book to try to end this thing. Look at how successful a simple heads up link is on a place like reddit.com over things like net neutrality, cooperate monopolies, shitty companies like comcast, etc. A link about whats going on behind the curtain is seen by millions of users, and the word spreads, emails, phone calls, and letters are written, and it generally has a favorable measurable impact on the topic that was brought to everyone's attention. If even something like that was the only thing accomplished by this filibuster, or any of them its a win in my opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
