ibx 2 #1 June 23, 2013 http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/23/us-usa-security-flight-idUSBRE95M02H20130623 I'm looking forward to the ensuing drama... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #2 June 23, 2013 After much thought on the matter I believe that Snowden is a hypocrite and should stand trial. He apparently valued the law so much that he felt that he had to go public but now he has done so he is also doing everything to evade the law.On top of which he runs to HK and China to evade the law a nation which is known for doing exactly what the NSA did with TOM SKYPE. Now he is off to Russia where SCORM-2 is in operation. As for Prism and other similar programmes, is it right that Google knows more than the Government? No and if they withheld information that could stop criminals from taking the lives of countless people then that is a good thing. if people are stupid enough to write things on the internet and believe that its private then bigger fool them. Bring Snowden back and supermax his arse.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FastRodriguez 0 #3 June 23, 2013 Well, Luckily for him there are people and countries that dont agree with you. He is gonna live the rest of his life happy on ecuador eating ceviche and drinking cold ones. Let America diplomacy and government cry. They have ZERO right to police the world and act the way they do."I don´t stop when I am tired. I stop when I am done" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #4 June 23, 2013 QuoteLuckily for him there are people and countries that dont agree with you. China and Russia are now the Last bastion of human freedom? That's priceless. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ayevee8toryear 0 #5 June 23, 2013 Quote China and Russia are now the Last bastion of human freedom? That's priceless. Tweak your interpretation, why don't you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FastRodriguez 0 #6 June 23, 2013 I never said that. You may interpret my message as you please. Good day to you sir."I don´t stop when I am tired. I stop when I am done" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,384 #7 June 23, 2013 jclalor QuoteLuckily for him there are people and countries that dont agree with you. China and Russia are now the Last bastion of human freedom? That's priceless. No, it is the principle of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. He knows they don't support the principles of civil liberties, but is taking advantage of their desire to thumb their noses at the US govt."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #8 June 23, 2013 ryoder *** Quote Luckily for him there are people and countries that dont agree with you. China and Russia are now the Last bastion of human freedom? That's priceless. No, it is the principle of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. He knows they don't support the principles of civil liberties, but is taking advantage of their desire to thumb their noses at the US govt. According to a couple of Chinese news outlets (via Google News), Snowden, having been released by HK probably with the acquiescence (and possibly at the behest) of - China, plans to transit to - Moscow; thence to - Cuba; thence to - Venezuela. You don't suppose any of them wish to say "Fuck you" to the US, do you? Word is, the Iranians wanted him to stop over in Tehran, too, but the team said "Nah, too obvious". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,384 #9 June 23, 2013 Andy9o8 Word is, the Iranians wanted him to stop over in Tehran, too, but the team said "Nah, too obvious". Oh, that would have been great!Seems like North Korea would have wanted in on this as well."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FastRodriguez 0 #10 June 23, 2013 With all due respect. You dont know what I know or what I think. I dont have any special interest in anyone showing their thumb to the Us government. I do believe its extremely hypocritical to accuse him of being a spy. When he was working for NSA, or CIA or whichever super-spy-freedom-letssavetheworld-agency he was working for, violating people´s right to privacy was not a problem. Americans have the right to intercept and file everyone´s privacy but the rest of the world dont have the right to know what you guys do? Im sorry, It is not fair. I dislike terrorism as much as you do, but I dont think your government has the right to disrupt my privacy, or anybodies else. Remember, The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins. Good day to you"I don´t stop when I am tired. I stop when I am done" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,384 #11 June 23, 2013 Where the hell did you get the idea I support the US govt on this issue??? "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FastRodriguez 0 #12 June 23, 2013 Probably in the same place you got the idea that I enjoy ANY governmet thumbing their noses at the US "I don´t stop when I am tired. I stop when I am done" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ayevee8toryear 0 #13 June 23, 2013 http://rt.com/news/snowden-fly-moscow-aeroflot-125/ Hear it from the horses mouth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FastRodriguez 0 #14 June 23, 2013 Good for him. If I was on his position I would do anything to avoid being sent back to the States. Or he could end up like Pvt. Bradley Manning. Good day"I don´t stop when I am tired. I stop when I am done" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,384 #15 June 23, 2013 Apparently, heading to Ecuador: http://news.yahoo.com/wikileaks-snowden-going-ecuador-seek-asylum-170935684.html"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #16 June 23, 2013 ryoderApparently, heading to Ecuador: http://news.yahoo.com/wikileaks-snowden-going-ecuador-seek-asylum-170935684.html I'm surprised by several things in today's events. Why not leave days ago and why announce destinations now? It's just stupid. He should have left Hong Kong seconds after doing his last interview.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #17 June 23, 2013 He's pretty young, and basically just a professional nerd. I don't think there was a lot of deeper thought on his part put into the planning, prior to engaging capable counsel in HK. And should be interesting to see if he lands where "announced"; feint and diversion are the oldest tricks in the book. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #18 June 23, 2013 Agreed. It's entirely possible today is a complete ruse.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #19 June 23, 2013 Toilet paper. The one thing he will miss the most. I hope he enjoys the rest of his life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FastRodriguez 0 #20 June 23, 2013 Dont think so. He will be a friend of the great leader. In those countries, if you have connections, you get to wipe with gold leaf."I don´t stop when I am tired. I stop when I am done" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #21 June 23, 2013 FastRodriguezIn those countries... Anyone today who thinks he knows where Snowden is going to end up and isn't either him or Assange is just guessing.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FastRodriguez 0 #22 June 23, 2013 True."I don´t stop when I am tired. I stop when I am done" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,048 #23 June 23, 2013 Hi Fast, QuoteThey have ZERO right to police the world and act the way they do. I agree. I have always been opposed to the Patriot Act. It reminds me of the days of J. Edgar Hoover and the FBI spying on people with no right to do so. The 'right' was only in Hoover's mind. I know & accept that the CIA probably does/has done some rather nasty stuff. If the feds want to see what emails I send, let them get a warrant. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #24 June 23, 2013 quade I'm surprised by several things in today's events. Why not leave days ago and why announce destinations now? It's just stupid. He should have left Hong Kong seconds after doing his last interview. He's not a field agent, and certainly not Jason Bourne. Hell, at his age he's barely a man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #25 June 23, 2013 He's 30. He has a Masters from the University of Liverpool. He's a gamer, so he understands planning in advance and strategy. He was an IT Technician for the CIA. He's not exactly stupid.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
