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Did you see in the news where McCain and others are already writing laws to bring to the floor that would stop the automatic spending cuts?
I imagine McCain would only seek to block the DoD cuts.
How did the whole thing shrink to 1.2T anyway? I thought the song and dance was for 4T in deficit (not debt) reduction over 10 years. And now we can't even get 1.2?
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Did you see in the news where McCain and others are already writing laws to bring to the floor that would stop the automatic spending cuts?
I imagine McCain would only seek to block the DoD cuts.
How did the whole thing shrink to 1.2T anyway? I thought the song and dance was for 4T in deficit (not debt) reduction over 10 years. And now we can't even get 1.2?
Ya
the whole thing was only a show to start with
Never was a chance
I think anybody who paid attention knew this from the git go
On another note
I thought I saw a news story where we hit the debt limit again
Did you see that?
(15 triilion?) Or is the limit higher than that now?
They have raised it some many times now I forget
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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rushmc 18
QuoteIt's official- super committee fails to reach a deal.
I think they need to go back, start over, and baby step the whole thing. Here's what I want to see:
'supercommittee agrees on folgers v maxwell house for morning coffee.'
'Super committee agrees an subway v quiznos for lunch.'
' super committe agrees no black olives or mushrooms on their pizza.'
'supercommittee agrees on where to go for margharitas for happy hour.'
Baby steps, baby steps.
Now Obama is on TV blaming the Republicans
surprise surprise
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
QuoteFrom CNN:
"I'll veto any Effort to get rid of automatic spending cuts if congress fail to reach a deficit deal."
Well good. He's staring to act like a president. slam your fist down and say - "the buck stops here." net's sequester them like A jury- no turkey until you agree on what type of stuffing and gravy With the turkey.
....so long as he doesn't follow that up with a proposal for a trillion dollar jobs or infrastructure bill.
I'm all for another CCC, though I think the focus would be on larger infrastructure, rather than the smaller stuff like the great trails in Yosemite (which are still quite functional).
But spending is spending and he just said he was committing to reductions, so any such proposal needs to be balanced with funding in the form of taxes or other cuts.
But spending is spending and he just said he was committing to reductions, so any such proposal needs to be balanced with funding in the form of taxes or other cuts.
lummy 4
QuoteNow Obama is on TV blaming the Republicans
Why not? The Republicans don't have to compromise on anything.
They're going to get their cuts and no new taxes and all they had to do was sit back in their chairs and cross their arms.
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As if anybody is at all surprised that they couldn't make a deal.
As if anybody is surprised that they point fingers at each other.
As if anybody is amazed that the mandatoryt cuts won't come until 2013 - after the 2012 elections.
And will anybody be surprised when, prior to the start of fiscal year 2013-2014 that the Congress will block the cuts and the President will sign the legislation? Because "now is not the time to make these cuts."
My wife is hotter than your wife.
As if anybody is surprised that they point fingers at each other.
As if anybody is amazed that the mandatoryt cuts won't come until 2013 - after the 2012 elections.
And will anybody be surprised when, prior to the start of fiscal year 2013-2014 that the Congress will block the cuts and the President will sign the legislation? Because "now is not the time to make these cuts."
My wife is hotter than your wife.
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I think the biggest mistake here was leaving this in the hands of Congress. Is it possible to go outside of Congress to a third party institution and have them submit multiple proposals for Congressional approval?
I'm not up on my Constitutional law, but removing the politicians from the process may be a last ditch option. Of course, a 2012 house cleaning would probably do the same thing. Fresh blood and fresh ideas.
I don't know of anything that would prevent anyone from writing a proposal and having a congressman sponsor it through the process.
House cleaning? In this country?
My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239
House cleaning in this country would take an act of Congress......oh...wait.....
My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239
mnealtx 0
QuoteQuoteNow Obama is on TV blaming the Republicans
Why not? The Republicans don't have to compromise on anything.
They're going to get their cuts and no new taxes and all they had to do was sit back in their chairs and cross their arms.
It was the DEMS that rejected a plan that would have increased revenue by roughly 500 billion and cut spending by roughly 700 billion.
Of course, the MSM and Obama are calling it 'Republican obstructionism'....quelle surprise.
Mike
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I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706
QuoteQuoteQuoteNow Obama is on TV blaming the Republicans
Why not? The Republicans don't have to compromise on anything.
They're going to get their cuts and no new taxes and all they had to do was sit back in their chairs and cross their arms.
It was the DEMS that rejected a plan that would have increased revenue by roughly 500 billion and cut spending by roughly 700 billion.
Of course, the MSM and Obama are calling it 'Republican obstructionism'....quelle surprise.
They're politicians, do we expect any different?
I'd sooner be a used car salesman at a buy-here-pay-here joint than run for mayor...
rushmc 18
QuoteQuoteNow Obama is on TV blaming the Republicans
Why not? The Republicans don't have to compromise on anything.
They're going to get their cuts and no new taxes and all they had to do was sit back in their chairs and cross their arms.
Not what happened
The Republicans offered a starting point
The Dems offered NO real spending cuts
One better than the other?
Not really
But blaming the R's is dishonest, but that, in the end, is what politics is today
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
tkhayes 126
QuoteThe Dems offered NO real spending cuts
sure they did - they are all kicking in automatically starting in 2013, and the politicians are already lobbying on the TV this a.m. early to stop the cuts before they even go into effect. especially the DoD
Obama said "No" and he will veto any chance to do that.
get yer story straight. I fail to see why the automatic spending cuts are not being implemented TODAY......across the board, EVERY department, ALL at once
Then we would feel some pain, then we would see some change.
Both sides are assholes. Glad I voted for neither one.
When 2012 comes, the Republicans win a majority, the deficit goes up, spending stays out of control and the taxes get lowered and we are COMPLETELY in the shitter deeper than ever, - my prediction.
Anyone who votes Rep or Dem and expects things to get better is fucking kidding themselves.....
rushmc 18
QuoteQuoteThe Dems offered NO real spending cuts
sure they did - they are all kicking in automatically starting in 2013, and the politicians are already lobbying on the TV this a.m. early to stop the cuts before they even go into effect. especially the DoD
Obama said "No" and he will veto any chance to do that.
get yer story straight. I fail to see why the automatic spending cuts are not being implemented TODAY......across the board, EVERY department, ALL at once
Then we would feel some pain, then we would see some change.
Both sides are assholes. Glad I voted for neither one.
When 2012 comes, the Republicans win a majority, the deficit goes up, spending stays out of control and the taxes get lowered and we are COMPLETELY in the shitter deeper than ever, - my prediction.
Anyone who votes Rep or Dem and expects things to get better is fucking kidding themselves.....
MY story is straight
What you are talking about is the automatic cuts should the committee reach no decision
which it did not
Now get YOUR story straight
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
tkhayes 126
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-puts-medicare-social-security-cuts-table-031442907.html
Obama has had social security and medicare cuts on the table since last summer.
which part of 'your story' is that in? 'cause I cannot find it.
and the automatic cuts are still cuts, so to say there are none, is a wash.
Are you writing your congress reps to tell them that DoD cuts are necessary? I bet not. And I bet 'your' elected representatives do everything they can to block the cuts of any kind.
so again, they are ALL assholes, on both sides and the people that support them, thinking that things will improve, are delusional at best.
Obama has had social security and medicare cuts on the table since last summer.
which part of 'your story' is that in? 'cause I cannot find it.
and the automatic cuts are still cuts, so to say there are none, is a wash.
Are you writing your congress reps to tell them that DoD cuts are necessary? I bet not. And I bet 'your' elected representatives do everything they can to block the cuts of any kind.
so again, they are ALL assholes, on both sides and the people that support them, thinking that things will improve, are delusional at best.
mnealtx 0
Got a bill number for that?
Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706
rushmc 18
QuoteGot a bill number for that?
Na
It is just a talking point
He will figure it out someday....
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
Yup. Everyone says they want to buy low and sell high. Most people don't.
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