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“It is clear that Rekers has baggage and certainly needs help,”:D:D



Religious people do tend to miss other meanings of what they say.
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“It is clear that Rekers has baggage and certainly needs help,”:D:D



Didn't read the article, what happen he get cause with a severed head in a bowling bag?




...again!? :ph34r:


He apparently hired an ASSistant from http://www.rentboy.com/ to travel with him because he needed help carrying his luggage.

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Clearly, he made a bad choice. That's what makes it news worthy.



Right you are, Ron. He chose to be a hypocrite. He chose to condemn others for what they are naturally, in spite of the fact that he was just like them, naturally. He chose to live his life as a lie, attempting to repress the way he was born. And he chose it all because he was brainwashed with your book. Because of that brainwashing, seems like he made a bunch of bad choices. Perhaps now that his private life is no longer private, he'll be able to live with himself the way he really is, and maybe find some real happiness. Perhaps he'll choose to accept himself just as he is.

You really believe that if he had the ability to choose who he was attracted to, he would choose men? Especially considering how many people are just like you, people who label his attraction as a "choice", so they can condemn and expel him? Tell us again, when you "chose" to be attracted to women? The date, or year, or period of your life when you made that "choice"?

Hey, at least you didn't scream out "they don't deserve special treatment". ;)



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Clearly, he made a bad choice. That's what makes it news worthy.



Right you are, Ron. He chose to be a hypocrite. He chose to condemn others for what they are naturally, in spite of the fact that he was just like them, naturally. He chose to live his life as a lie, attempting to repress the way he was born. And he chose it all because he was brainwashed with your book. Because of that brainwashing, seems like he made a bunch of bad choices. Perhaps now that his private life is no longer private, he'll be able to live with himself the way he really is, and maybe find some real happiness. Perhaps he'll choose to accept himself just as he is.

You really believe that if he had the ability to choose who he was attracted to, he would choose men? Especially considering how many people are just like you, people who label his attraction as a "choice", so they can condemn and expel him? Tell us again, when you "chose" to be attracted to women? The date, or year, or period of your life when you made that "choice"?

Hey, at least you didn't scream out "they don't deserve special treatment". ;)


No special treatment.

Sex is a privilege not a right. The act is what makes the marriage relationship of a man and a woman intimately secure.

If Rekers is married he committed the sin of adultery; if single, he engaged in the sin of fornication.

He deserves punitive retribution and apparently it has begun.

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"Rent boy" allegations

The Miami New Times reported on May 4, 2010 that three weeks previously, Rekers had been photographed at Miami International Airport with a man reported to be a twenty-year-old "rent boy" using the name "Lucien".[4][15] Rekers claimed that "Lucien" was there to help carry his luggage since he had had recent surgery and was unable to carry it himself. [4][16] Rekers admitted to hiring "Lucien" for the 10-day European vacation as a "travel assistant" and denies any impropriety. "Lucien" was reported to be available for hire through the "Rentboy.com" website. Rekers was quoted as commenting, “If you talk with my travel assistant ... you will find I spent a great deal of time sharing scientific information on the desirability of abandoning homosexual intercourse, and I shared the Gospel of Jesus Christ with him in great detail.” [17] The incident was covered by media outlets and TV shows worldwide. In a subsequent Miami New Times article, "Lucien" said the minister had paid him to provide daily nude body rubs and that he believed that Rekers was, in fact, gay. "It's a situation," Lucien said, "where he's going against homosexuality when he is a homosexual." He make it clear that he had met Rekers through Rentboy.com and denied that he had been hired to carry luggage.[18]
Following these reports the Family Research Council removed the details about Rekers' role as a founder board member from their web site;[19] they also posted up a release denying any association with Rekers for over a decade, stating that "while it's extremely disappointing when any Christian leader engages in the very activities that they "preach" against, it's not surprising. The Scriptures clearly teach the fallen nature of all people." [20]



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wow, u're even more twisted than i'd ever IMAGINED.. :S





Posted by "virgin-burner"

I find your comment very ironic.

Hmmmmmm
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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wow, u're even more twisted than i'd ever IMAGINED.. :S





Posted by "virgin-burner"

I find your comment very ironic.

Hmmmmmm


good stuff!

yet, u clearly dont know where i'm coming from; great, stay ignorant to your fellow "friends".. :|
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wow, u're even more twisted than i'd ever IMAGINED.. :S





Posted by "virgin-burner"

I find your comment very ironic.

Hmmmmmm


good stuff!

yet, u clearly dont know where i'm coming from; great, stay ignorant to your fellow "friends".. :|


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By the way
I have taken no position here nor will I
Debating generalizations are a waste of time
I was only posting to the irony point I made
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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The act is what makes the marriage relationship of a man and a woman intimately secure.



Excellent. So, if Rekers had sex with his wife, that act made their marriage "intimately secure"?

Thanks for once again avoiding direct questions. [:/]



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I have taken no position here nor will I
Debating generalizations are a waste of time



That's interesting. I though this thread was very specific, and not a generalization... Oh well...



The person was specific

Posts such as this are only posted to attack a group by using the actions of one

A generalization
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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You really believe that if he had the ability to choose who he was attracted to, he would choose men? Especially considering how many people are just like you, people who label his attraction as a "choice", so they can condemn and expel him? Tell us again, when you "chose" to be attracted to women? The date, or year, or period of your life when you made that "choice"?



Everybody living has desires and or obsessive cravings to deviate form acceptable behavior. Does the craving legitimize the behavior? Or do we just need a certain number of people all wanting the same thing to make the behavior acceptable? Or maybe we can simply it by saying, any behavior resulting from the random resequencing or mutation of genetic material will be considered acceptable.

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You really believe that if he had the ability to choose who he was attracted to, he would choose men? Especially considering how many people are just like you, people who label his attraction as a "choice", so they can condemn and expel him? Tell us again, when you "chose" to be attracted to women? The date, or year, or period of your life when you made that "choice"?



Everybody living has desires and or obsessive cravings to deviate form acceptable behavior. Does the craving legitimize the behavior? Or do we just need a certain number of people all wanting the same thing to make the behavior acceptable? Or maybe we can simply it by saying, any behavior resulting from the random resequencing or mutation of genetic material will be considered acceptable.



"Acceptable" is an objective term.

Here's a thought: Let's just let consenting adults do to each other whatever they want without trying to "change" or "fix" them by guilting them into thinking they're "broken."
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>Does the craving legitimize the behavior?

No, nor does it condemn it. If it is legal and moral (or more accurately not immoral) then that, not the craving, legitimizes the behavior.

>Or do we just need a certain number of people all wanting the same thing
>to make the behavior acceptable?

Nope. It doesn't matter if one person or 300 million want the same thing; if it is legal and moral, it's acceptable. Want to have sex in the missionary position under the covers with a consenting adult? No problem. Want to roll your girlfriend in axle grease and foam peanuts? No problem, as long as she's OK with it too.

>Or maybe we can simply it by saying, any behavior resulting from the
>random resequencing or mutation of genetic material will be considered
>acceptable.

Again, no. Random resequencing has nothing to do with it. Legal and not immoral does.

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Or do we just need a certain number of people all wanting the same thing to make the behavior acceptable?



Certainly, the church has tried long and hard to dictate what is acceptable. Who are you to say? Or the church? Or anyone other than the people directly involved? If they are not hurting others, why do christians seem to care so much? If your god is omnipotent and omniscient, why do you spend so much time on this earth bleating about something that you believe he will take care of anyway?

I can only say what is acceptable for me. Homosexual behavior is something I'm not interested in, it's just not how I'm wired. If that's how you're wired (general "you"), great. Be happy. Don't hurt others, but otherwise, enjoy life.

Ron wants to keep calling it a choice, so he can continue to see them as different from him, and then easy to marginalize. Since I have little else to do while at work, I'll take every opportunity to point out the simple failings of his logic. In this case, calling it a choice is ridiculous. He didn't choose to be straight, but contends that homosexuals are choosing their sexuality, and in that choice, choosing to sin. They aren't choosing any more than he is, he just needs an excuse to keep spewing this bile.

If you want to evolve that use of the word "choice" into "acceptable behavior", that's fine. You define what's acceptable, and I'll do my best to tell you why it's bullshit. Unless your idea of acceptable christian behavior stops with "love others", in which case, BRAVO...



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