kallend 1,625 #1 January 20, 2010 www.wibw.com/home/headlines/82151662.html Pity those poor Virginians are denied guns to defend themselves.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #2 January 20, 2010 http://www.examiner.com/x-18149-SelfDefense-Examiner~y2010m1d17-Car-wash-robbers-shot-by-armed-victim Pity those poor Chicagoins who aren't allowed to own handguns for self-defense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #3 January 20, 2010 Another crazy liberal with a teaching degree! http://rogersparkbench.blogspot.com/2009/12/liberal-professor-wants-obama-to-be.html At least this dumb liberal is finally coming around As for others..... Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,625 #4 January 20, 2010 Quote Another crazy liberal with a teaching degree! http://rogersparkbench.blogspot.com/2009/12/liberal-professor-wants-obama-to-be.html At least this dumb liberal is finally coming around As for others..... Did he shoot 8 people dead?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #5 January 20, 2010 Quote Quote Another crazy liberal with a teaching degree! http://rogersparkbench.blogspot.com/2009/12/liberal-professor-wants-obama-to-be.html At least this dumb liberal is finally coming around As for others..... Did he shoot 8 people dead? It didnt say in that report, so im not sure. But im sure he indoctrinates plenty of ignorant kids. Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #6 January 20, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Another crazy liberal with a teaching degree! http://rogersparkbench.blogspot.com/2009/12/liberal-professor-wants-obama-to-be.html At least this dumb liberal is finally coming around As for others..... Did he shoot 8 people dead? It didnt say in that report, so im not sure. But im sure he indoctrinates plenty of ignorant kids. Does he indoctrinate them to shoot 8 people dead? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #7 January 20, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Another crazy liberal with a teaching degree! http://rogersparkbench.blogspot.com/2009/12/liberal-professor-wants-obama-to-be.html At least this dumb liberal is finally coming around As for others..... Did he shoot 8 people dead? It didnt say in that report, so im not sure. But im sure he indoctrinates plenty of ignorant kids. Does he indoctrinate them to shoot 8 people dead? so it is ok to indoctrinate kids as long as they don't shoot 8 people? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #8 January 20, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Another crazy liberal with a teaching degree! http://rogersparkbench.blogspot.com/2009/12/liberal-professor-wants-obama-to-be.html At least this dumb liberal is finally coming around As for others..... Did he shoot 8 people dead? It didnt say in that report, so im not sure. But im sure he indoctrinates plenty of ignorant kids. Does he indoctrinate them to shoot 8 people dead? so it is ok to indoctrinate kids as long as they don't shoot 8 people? Actually I was wondering whether it's ok to shoot 8 people dead as long as you don't indoctrinate kids. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #9 January 20, 2010 Depend who the 8 people are....---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnay 0 #10 January 20, 2010 Remember when the same thing happened with a muslim.. it was such a great american tragedy and people ranted about muslims being terrorists for weeks. No one seems upset by this one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georgerussia 0 #11 January 21, 2010 Quote www.wibw.com/home/headlines/82151662.html Pity those poor Virginians are denied guns to defend themselves. This is all due to liberals who try to restrict those nasty assault rifles. If only every gun owner was able to walk around with AK-47 - like in Somali - such crazy crimes would never happen! Somali is so peaceful now!* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #12 January 21, 2010 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/20/AR2010012005139_3.html?hpid=moreheadlines&sid=ST2010012000922 QuoteRoland B. Parris Jr. of Appomattox wrote to support Speight's gun application that year, saying that Speight had participated in a National Rifle Association high-powered rifle clinic and competition, which he excelled in. "I can tell the character of a man after coaching him for two days on the rifle range," Parris wrote. "Chris did very well with high scores to prove his ability with the rifle." Oh really??!?!? I'm all for gun ownership.... but statements like that are just so ignorant you have to wonder about the speakers judgment about everything in life.... you can rarely tell ANYTHING about anyone's 'character' after two days....____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tsisson 0 #13 January 21, 2010 Criminals and crazy people will always have access to guns...whether gun ownership is legal or not. That is just a fact - sort of like drugs - if you want them, you will get them - legal or not. Now, in my home - I have guns too. When I'm out and about, I have my firearm. Should I encounter a situation where my life is threatened by some nut similar to the one described in the article referenced - I take some measure of peace knowing that I can properly defend myself or my wife. I am very liberal, vote democrat typically - but as far as the 2nd ammendment - complain all you want...I just don't see the sense in disarming society and leaving guns to the criminals. Sort of like leaving the bank unlocked at night with the alarm off - just an invitation to those with bad intentions to do whatever they want, whenever they want. "An armed society is a polite society" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vanair 0 #14 January 21, 2010 28 years ago in college I 22 yr old ucmc 4yr vet had a discussion in my psychology of adjustment course. I brought up hand guns, and stated that Idon't, but if I'm out in I higher crime area I would prefer to carry a hand gun. My liberal older lady prof went off on me. And sort of to get her goat I mention the archie bunker theory on how to stop hijackings. Very funny, he says that all you have to do is hand a 38 to everyone when they get on the plane. Who's gonna stand up in front of a hundred people with 38's and try to hijack a plane. funny, impracticable but a ring of truth truth to it. She went off, I just said I want to be at least as well armed as the criminal. ie if someone pulls out a knife on me I want to pull out a handgun. She had a fit, saying how stupid that concept is etc etc. I said if it is so stupid why are two super powers, us and the ussr trying do do the same thing? I ended up having to go to the dean to get my deserved A instead of the C she gave me in the course. By the way my wife and I are moving to north of White Plains NY. Either Brewster NY area or Danbury Conn area. Wondering if one state has a great advantage over the other overall and in gun laws Thanks Van Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 7 #15 January 21, 2010 QuoteNo one seems upset by this one You don't seem to be paying attention. The MEDIA may not be all over it, but that's just because they have other news they think will sell better."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #16 January 21, 2010 QuoteQuoteNo one seems upset by this one You don't seem to be paying attention. The MEDIA may not be all over it, but that's just because they have other news they think will sell better. I agree with skinnay that had the shooter been a Muslim shouting "Allahu akhbar", the news media would have been all over it, other news notwithstanding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 7 #17 January 21, 2010 QuoteI agree with skinnay that had the shooter been a Muslim shouting "Allahu akhbar", the news media would have been all over it, other news notwithstanding. And I don't disagree with that.... But he said "no one seems to be upset over this." So you agree that no one is upset over this? Or do you agree that the MEDIA is not jumping all over it? Two VERY different things."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #18 January 21, 2010 What happened inside a North Memphis convenience store doesn’t come as a surprise to most folks in the area. In fact, they say the suspected crook got what he deserved. Around eleven Sunday morning police say an armed, 17-year old boy tried to rob Ben Call market. The robbery attempt failed when the store manager pulled a gun and shot him. http://www.wreg.com/news/wreg-teen-shot-by-store-clerk,0,1499475.story About 6:30, the County Sheriff’s Department responded to the home in the 1800 block of Wareham Way. That’s where a homeowner says he shot at a man trying to get into his house. http://www.northescambia.com/?p=13991 Two or three suspects hopped over a back fence at about 8:30 p.m. and attempted to break into a home, according to authorities, and a grandfather inside heard the commotion and grabbed a firearm. He shot one of the suspects, according to police. http://cbs13.com/local/sacramento.home.shooting.2.1432585.html A man in a ski mask was shot by a resident after he forced his way into a home Saturday night, police said. http://www.mydesert.com/article/20100118/NEWS0801/1180313/Retired+couple+defend+home+against+burglary An intruder is dead and the resident who shot him is still shaken after a home invasion in the central valley early Tuesday morning. http://www.lvrj.com/news/breaking_news/Homeowner-shoots-kills-intruder-82052612.html Gunfire erupted during a robbery in a Northwestside beauty shop last night. http://www.indystar.com/article/20100114/NEWS02/1140482/Guns-fired-during-beauty-shop-robbery A Lubbock homeowner shot and seriously injured a suspected burglar who was trying to kick in his door Monday afternoon. http://lubbockonline.com/stories/011910/loc_551762211.shtml DeKalb police say a homeowner fired ‘a few shots’ at two armed men who forced their way into his home late Thursday night. http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=139744&catid=3 Police responded to the homeowner’s 911 call at 9:44 p.m. Upon arrival, they found signs of forced entry, such as damage to the front door frame and part of the door’s lock on the floor. The homeowner used a .22-caliber rifle to shoot the intruder. http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stories/2010/01/11/police-gather-more-information-saturday-night-home-shooting/ A driver whose SUV plunged into a Northern California creek escaped the sinking vehicle by blasting out the window with a handgun. http://www.startribune.com/nation/82059972.html?elr=KArks:DCiUUU7DYaGEP7vDEh7P:DiUX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #19 January 21, 2010 QuoteBut he said "no one seems to be upset over this." So he used a little hyperbole. I understood his point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,625 #20 January 21, 2010 Are they supposed to justify the 120 or so gun homicides that have taken place over the same time period?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tsisson 0 #21 January 21, 2010 Quote Are they supposed to justify the 120 or so gun homicides that have taken place over the same time period? 120 gun homicides? Wonder how many of those would have turned out differently had the victim been carrying a firearm for self defense. How many total homicides were committed during that period - not using a handgun? I can kill someone just as easily with a baseball bat as I can with a hand gun...should we outlaw baseball bats? Brown's Chicken... If just one of those employees had a firearm for self defense, I'm betting that would have turned out differently. God help me if I'm ever in a restaurant/store/etc and someone robs the place...then orders everyone into the "back room". Not going to happen to me, I can PROMISE you that. I don't intend on committing a crime with my firearm - so why does anyone have a problem with my right to own it and if necessary use it to defend myself? God bless John Moses Browning... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #22 January 21, 2010 Quote www.wibw.com/home/headlines/82151662.html Pity those poor Virginians are denied guns to defend themselves. Must have been one of those DC criminals overwhelmed by the FMCRs (Firearm Mind Control Rays).Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #23 January 21, 2010 QuoteSomali is so peaceful now Somali is an example of anarchy. If America ever get as bad as Somali, then it too would be a living hell. But you are rather far out there in left field comparing the murder of 8 people by one deranged person to what is happening to Somali these last few decades. Compare this shooting to Columbine? Yes Compare this shooting to other mass murders? Yes Compare this shooting to Somali? Apples and Oranges. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #24 January 21, 2010 QuoteAre they supposed to justify the 120 or so gun homicides that have taken place over the same time period? Would you prefer that number be 130? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georgerussia 0 #25 January 21, 2010 Quote Criminals and crazy people will always have access to guns...whether gun ownership is legal or not. Following this logic we should not restrict sales of anything - including grenades, land mines and cyanide - because criminals and crazy people might be able to get them anyway... whether grenade ownership is legal or not. Making guns much less available would restrict access to guns for criminals by cutting out the supply (no more straw purchases, no more illegal purchases from corrupted legitimate dealers, no more 300K stolen guns a year). And it will basically remove the chance for crazy people to get the gun Quote That is just a fact - sort of like drugs - if you want them, you will get them - legal or not. The ban which is not enforced is useless. But try to get some drugs in Singapore where this ban is really enforced, and you will see how easy is it. Quote I am very liberal, vote democrat typically - but as far as the 2nd ammendment - complain all you want... I just don't see the sense in disarming society and leaving guns to the criminals. Then why NYC, which basically disarmed law abiding citizens and left guns to the criminals, has a lower homicide rate than St. Louis, Houston or New Orleans which is supposed to be full of armed citizens? And I'm NOT very liberal, nor I "vote democrat typically". But as far as private gun ownership goes, I've made my position. Quote"An armed society is a polite society" 'cause we gonna shot those who are impolite!* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
