rhys 0 #26 January 17, 2010 QuoteIt's all his fault!!! I think the only asshole in this thread may be one who started it.........Shocked moderators can you please sort the PA's out, it is quite pathetic."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #27 January 17, 2010 There are enough troops now, start getting food and medical supplies to the people before they die. Quote U know this how? R u in a position to see what assets have made it there and what is still required? Didn't think so. One incident of a plane being diverted because more boots are needed on the ground does not mean that all aid is being funneled away. Go cry elsewhere, we're sick of your garbage.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites futuredivot 0 #28 January 17, 2010 Quotewhere blankets and water can be sent and arrive within hours. What natural disaster have you worked relief for? As someone who has actually been a boot on the ground (civilian response), If you don't take your organizational command and infrastructure with you-shit sits on the docks and doesn't get distributed. I'm sorry if situational realities conflict with your head up your ass worldview, but until you strap on, volunteer, and crawl onto the muck-feel free to shut the fuck up. I'm curious as to if the aircraft that were rerouted or held had a flight plan that notified of their ETA of if they just called 20 minutes out for permission to land.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #29 January 17, 2010 'm curious as to if the aircraft that were rerouted or held had a flight plan that notified of their ETA of if they just called 20 minutes out for permission to land. Quote Very good point. I don't know who else noticed, but the US military is basically running the airport operations. I would be willing to bet that the planes being told not to land are the ones who fail to coordinate prior to heading out. Of course this theory completely disallows bitching about how stupid the US is so lets just throw it out the window shall we. Lets also say that the troops that landed were carrying Al-Qaeda propaganda to be distributed around the country so we have a reason to invade the country. Who's with me?History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Belgian_Draft 0 #30 January 17, 2010 QuoteQuoteBet it plays well on AlJizzeera too. What did Qatar ever do to you to be so bitter towards them? i suppose they are all just sand niggers right? for fucks sake woman pull your fucking head in! Figured I would quote/reply so the racial slur can't be edited out before the mods catch it.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,772 #31 January 17, 2010 Skycop, Rhys, cut it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites futuredivot 0 #32 January 17, 2010 Quoteso we have a reason to invade the country. I haven't confirmed but heard earlier today that Haiti was considered the 3rd most corrupt government in the world. Can we take over or would that give us too much of a monopoly?You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skycop 0 #33 January 17, 2010 I said "may". No worries............I'll behave........ "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Hooknswoop 19 #34 January 18, 2010 QuoteThere are enough troops now, start getting food and medical supplies to the people before they die. How do you know there are enough troops? Why are the Belgian medics leaving citing lack of security if there are enough troops? You have zero idea what you are talking about. Derek V Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,379 #35 January 18, 2010 Quotebrazil has had food aid turned away now too, while air conditioning units and water supplies for US troops have been unloaded. When there are more planes coming in than runway to deal with them, something will be turned away. It's inevitable. As it is, a) water is generally more critical than food, you can go much longer without food than without water and b) I'd imagine that a lot of food aid is getting into the country, not all of it is being turned away, only the stuff that genuinely can't be dealt with under the circumstances. Quoteand 5 days later there are still people that do not have food but are able to be interview for television. Right. Question time: What is more difficult, delivering food to every one of several hundred thousand homeless people in a shattered city, or interviewing a few people? I'm not sure how you expect the troops and aid workers to be able to achieve perfect coverage of food distribution before any reporters find their way into the country. Side point: You know what? Reporters are actually important. They raise the profile of the disaster in the eyes of the public which leads to a lot more donations than you'd get if no-one outside knew what was going on. Quotei don't hate america, but i don't appreciate seeing people dying in television. Then turn off the TV and just imagine that the world is a perfect and happy place where logistical realities don't exist. QuoteThere are enough troops now, start getting food and medical supplies to the people before they die. So you think they're all just sitting around waiting at the moment? They have started, it's just going to be a heck of a lot more difficult than you seem to reliase.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TrophyHusband 0 #36 January 18, 2010 have you ever been to haiti? its the most fucked up and impoverished place i've ever been. worse that eritrea, worse that venezuala. worse that the barios around rio. without this disaster people were fucked. that place was fucked. i can't imagine how hard it is now to get aid to everybody. people there are trying to help. i'm sure they're doing the best they can, you're just trying to find another way to demonize the u.s. how about the next time there's a disaster anywhere in the world, you get in there on day one and show everyone how to run the relief effort smoothly. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Belgian_Draft 0 #37 January 18, 2010 +1 I was just watching "60 Minutes" and the reporter there said the 82nd Airborne had to circle for 5 hours before they could land at the airfield on Haiti. So much for rhys' accusation of prefferential treatment.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #38 January 18, 2010 QuoteQuoteGW just said . . . Who is GW? Anyway, if you have a problem with the way the US is coming to the rescue of another country in need, feel free to load up a plane and parachute in with supplies. Dittio. Rhys, STFU. You are seriously out there bitching about donation and generosity not being good enough. You're a true piece of work.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #39 January 18, 2010 QuoteQuoteIt's all his fault!!! I think the only asshole in this thread may be one who started it.........Shocked moderators can you please sort the PA's out, it is quite pathetic. You openly attack a group of people and want to hide behind an internet persona. Crybaby.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rynodigsmusic 0 #40 January 18, 2010 QuoteMan you realllllly hate the US dont you? I dont think he hates the US, I think he blames us for alot of the suffering in the world, like so many who are on the outside looking in."We didn't start the fire" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rynodigsmusic 0 #41 January 18, 2010 Quoteand 5 days later there are still people that do not have food but are able to be interview for television. The reporters are one of the main reasons aid is coming in at all, right? They also investigate the corrupt uses of it as well. I have no doubt that the Hatian government wouldnt mind pocketing billions of dollars at the expense of thousands of their own people dying. Money is VERY powerful. Quotei don't hate america, but i don't appreciate seeing people dying in television I dont think anyone thinks you hate us. We dont want to see people dying on TV either. Surely your seeing you may have jumped the gun on this one... which is something we all do at times."We didn't start the fire" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhys 0 #42 January 18, 2010 QuoteRhys, cut it out Cut what out Bill?"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Belgian_Draft 0 #43 January 18, 2010 Quote Quote Rhys, cut it out Cut what out Bill? rho=m/v HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,772 #44 January 18, 2010 >Cut what out Bill? "i suppose they are all just sand niggers right?" "for fucks sake woman pull your fucking head in!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riddler 0 #45 January 18, 2010 On a related note, Pat Robertson, televangelist extraordinaire, has said that Haiti deserved this earthquake, since they made a pact with the devil, 200 years ago. http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/NewsDetails.aspx?storyid=268744Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 1,853 #46 January 18, 2010 HAITI AIRPORT THE BEACHHEAD AND BOTTLENECK FOR AID (http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1551-full.html#201851) January 14, United States Air Force Special Tactics personnel were on the ground controlling airport operations at Toussaint L'Ouverture International, Haiti, but the ramp area was already saturated with 44 aircraft, forcing a temporary closure. The airport operates a control tower, two fuel trucks and one 9,974-foot runway. The control tower was rendered useless by the January 12 earthquake. Initial aid flights arrived using the UNICOM frequency to organize themselves, then by a U.S. Coast Guard Cutter off the coast. But two days later, the airspace was closed, turning away 11 aircraft that had been waiting for other flights to depart so they could land. Among those turned away was a C-130 from the 15th Special Operations Squadron at Hurlburt Field, Fla.. With ground damage hindering the expedient dispersion of supplies, and physical space preventing further arrivals, departures were at the same time beginning to be challenged by a dwindling fuel supply. The American aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson had by Thursday been dispatched to the region, primarily looking at providing increased helicopter capacity in the afflicted area.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rynodigsmusic 0 #47 January 18, 2010 QuoteOn a related note, Pat Robertson, televangelist extraordinaire, has said that Haiti deserved this earthquake, since they made a pact with the devil, 200 years ago. Thats ridiculous... and it goes against the teachings of the Gospel."We didn't start the fire" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,772 #48 January 18, 2010 Cut it out, JP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhys 0 #49 January 19, 2010 Quote"i suppose they are all just sand niggers right?" That was sarcasm, you should all have understood that but it seems you did not (understanding sarcasm is not a strong point for Americans), how is that a breach of forum rules? Quote"for fucks sake woman pull your fucking head in!" Borderline, but point taken!"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 18 #50 January 19, 2010 Quote'm curious as to if the aircraft that were rerouted or held had a flight plan that notified of their ETA of if they just called 20 minutes out for permission to land. Quote Very good point. I don't know who else noticed, but the US military is basically running the airport operations. I would be willing to bet that the planes being told not to land are the ones who fail to coordinate prior to heading out. Of course this theory completely disallows bitching about how stupid the US is so lets just throw it out the window shall we. Lets also say that the troops that landed were carrying Al-Qaeda propaganda to be distributed around the country so we have a reason to invade the country. Who's with me? I guess we have invaded this country according to France http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/haiti/7020908/US-accused-of-occupying-Haiti-as-troops-flood-in.html"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 2 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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futuredivot 0 #28 January 17, 2010 Quotewhere blankets and water can be sent and arrive within hours. What natural disaster have you worked relief for? As someone who has actually been a boot on the ground (civilian response), If you don't take your organizational command and infrastructure with you-shit sits on the docks and doesn't get distributed. I'm sorry if situational realities conflict with your head up your ass worldview, but until you strap on, volunteer, and crawl onto the muck-feel free to shut the fuck up. I'm curious as to if the aircraft that were rerouted or held had a flight plan that notified of their ETA of if they just called 20 minutes out for permission to land.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #29 January 17, 2010 'm curious as to if the aircraft that were rerouted or held had a flight plan that notified of their ETA of if they just called 20 minutes out for permission to land. Quote Very good point. I don't know who else noticed, but the US military is basically running the airport operations. I would be willing to bet that the planes being told not to land are the ones who fail to coordinate prior to heading out. Of course this theory completely disallows bitching about how stupid the US is so lets just throw it out the window shall we. Lets also say that the troops that landed were carrying Al-Qaeda propaganda to be distributed around the country so we have a reason to invade the country. Who's with me?History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Belgian_Draft 0 #30 January 17, 2010 QuoteQuoteBet it plays well on AlJizzeera too. What did Qatar ever do to you to be so bitter towards them? i suppose they are all just sand niggers right? for fucks sake woman pull your fucking head in! Figured I would quote/reply so the racial slur can't be edited out before the mods catch it.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,772 #31 January 17, 2010 Skycop, Rhys, cut it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites futuredivot 0 #32 January 17, 2010 Quoteso we have a reason to invade the country. I haven't confirmed but heard earlier today that Haiti was considered the 3rd most corrupt government in the world. Can we take over or would that give us too much of a monopoly?You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skycop 0 #33 January 17, 2010 I said "may". No worries............I'll behave........ "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Hooknswoop 19 #34 January 18, 2010 QuoteThere are enough troops now, start getting food and medical supplies to the people before they die. How do you know there are enough troops? Why are the Belgian medics leaving citing lack of security if there are enough troops? You have zero idea what you are talking about. Derek V Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,379 #35 January 18, 2010 Quotebrazil has had food aid turned away now too, while air conditioning units and water supplies for US troops have been unloaded. When there are more planes coming in than runway to deal with them, something will be turned away. It's inevitable. As it is, a) water is generally more critical than food, you can go much longer without food than without water and b) I'd imagine that a lot of food aid is getting into the country, not all of it is being turned away, only the stuff that genuinely can't be dealt with under the circumstances. Quoteand 5 days later there are still people that do not have food but are able to be interview for television. Right. Question time: What is more difficult, delivering food to every one of several hundred thousand homeless people in a shattered city, or interviewing a few people? I'm not sure how you expect the troops and aid workers to be able to achieve perfect coverage of food distribution before any reporters find their way into the country. Side point: You know what? Reporters are actually important. They raise the profile of the disaster in the eyes of the public which leads to a lot more donations than you'd get if no-one outside knew what was going on. Quotei don't hate america, but i don't appreciate seeing people dying in television. Then turn off the TV and just imagine that the world is a perfect and happy place where logistical realities don't exist. QuoteThere are enough troops now, start getting food and medical supplies to the people before they die. So you think they're all just sitting around waiting at the moment? They have started, it's just going to be a heck of a lot more difficult than you seem to reliase.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TrophyHusband 0 #36 January 18, 2010 have you ever been to haiti? its the most fucked up and impoverished place i've ever been. worse that eritrea, worse that venezuala. worse that the barios around rio. without this disaster people were fucked. that place was fucked. i can't imagine how hard it is now to get aid to everybody. people there are trying to help. i'm sure they're doing the best they can, you're just trying to find another way to demonize the u.s. how about the next time there's a disaster anywhere in the world, you get in there on day one and show everyone how to run the relief effort smoothly. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Belgian_Draft 0 #37 January 18, 2010 +1 I was just watching "60 Minutes" and the reporter there said the 82nd Airborne had to circle for 5 hours before they could land at the airfield on Haiti. So much for rhys' accusation of prefferential treatment.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #38 January 18, 2010 QuoteQuoteGW just said . . . Who is GW? Anyway, if you have a problem with the way the US is coming to the rescue of another country in need, feel free to load up a plane and parachute in with supplies. Dittio. Rhys, STFU. You are seriously out there bitching about donation and generosity not being good enough. You're a true piece of work.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #39 January 18, 2010 QuoteQuoteIt's all his fault!!! I think the only asshole in this thread may be one who started it.........Shocked moderators can you please sort the PA's out, it is quite pathetic. You openly attack a group of people and want to hide behind an internet persona. Crybaby.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rynodigsmusic 0 #40 January 18, 2010 QuoteMan you realllllly hate the US dont you? I dont think he hates the US, I think he blames us for alot of the suffering in the world, like so many who are on the outside looking in."We didn't start the fire" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rynodigsmusic 0 #41 January 18, 2010 Quoteand 5 days later there are still people that do not have food but are able to be interview for television. The reporters are one of the main reasons aid is coming in at all, right? They also investigate the corrupt uses of it as well. I have no doubt that the Hatian government wouldnt mind pocketing billions of dollars at the expense of thousands of their own people dying. Money is VERY powerful. Quotei don't hate america, but i don't appreciate seeing people dying in television I dont think anyone thinks you hate us. We dont want to see people dying on TV either. Surely your seeing you may have jumped the gun on this one... which is something we all do at times."We didn't start the fire" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhys 0 #42 January 18, 2010 QuoteRhys, cut it out Cut what out Bill?"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Belgian_Draft 0 #43 January 18, 2010 Quote Quote Rhys, cut it out Cut what out Bill? rho=m/v HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,772 #44 January 18, 2010 >Cut what out Bill? "i suppose they are all just sand niggers right?" "for fucks sake woman pull your fucking head in!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riddler 0 #45 January 18, 2010 On a related note, Pat Robertson, televangelist extraordinaire, has said that Haiti deserved this earthquake, since they made a pact with the devil, 200 years ago. http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/NewsDetails.aspx?storyid=268744Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 1,853 #46 January 18, 2010 HAITI AIRPORT THE BEACHHEAD AND BOTTLENECK FOR AID (http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1551-full.html#201851) January 14, United States Air Force Special Tactics personnel were on the ground controlling airport operations at Toussaint L'Ouverture International, Haiti, but the ramp area was already saturated with 44 aircraft, forcing a temporary closure. The airport operates a control tower, two fuel trucks and one 9,974-foot runway. The control tower was rendered useless by the January 12 earthquake. Initial aid flights arrived using the UNICOM frequency to organize themselves, then by a U.S. Coast Guard Cutter off the coast. But two days later, the airspace was closed, turning away 11 aircraft that had been waiting for other flights to depart so they could land. Among those turned away was a C-130 from the 15th Special Operations Squadron at Hurlburt Field, Fla.. With ground damage hindering the expedient dispersion of supplies, and physical space preventing further arrivals, departures were at the same time beginning to be challenged by a dwindling fuel supply. The American aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson had by Thursday been dispatched to the region, primarily looking at providing increased helicopter capacity in the afflicted area.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rynodigsmusic 0 #47 January 18, 2010 QuoteOn a related note, Pat Robertson, televangelist extraordinaire, has said that Haiti deserved this earthquake, since they made a pact with the devil, 200 years ago. Thats ridiculous... and it goes against the teachings of the Gospel."We didn't start the fire" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,772 #48 January 18, 2010 Cut it out, JP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhys 0 #49 January 19, 2010 Quote"i suppose they are all just sand niggers right?" That was sarcasm, you should all have understood that but it seems you did not (understanding sarcasm is not a strong point for Americans), how is that a breach of forum rules? Quote"for fucks sake woman pull your fucking head in!" Borderline, but point taken!"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 18 #50 January 19, 2010 Quote'm curious as to if the aircraft that were rerouted or held had a flight plan that notified of their ETA of if they just called 20 minutes out for permission to land. Quote Very good point. I don't know who else noticed, but the US military is basically running the airport operations. I would be willing to bet that the planes being told not to land are the ones who fail to coordinate prior to heading out. Of course this theory completely disallows bitching about how stupid the US is so lets just throw it out the window shall we. Lets also say that the troops that landed were carrying Al-Qaeda propaganda to be distributed around the country so we have a reason to invade the country. Who's with me? I guess we have invaded this country according to France http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/haiti/7020908/US-accused-of-occupying-Haiti-as-troops-flood-in.html"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 2 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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Belgian_Draft 0 #30 January 17, 2010 QuoteQuoteBet it plays well on AlJizzeera too. What did Qatar ever do to you to be so bitter towards them? i suppose they are all just sand niggers right? for fucks sake woman pull your fucking head in! Figured I would quote/reply so the racial slur can't be edited out before the mods catch it.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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futuredivot 0 #32 January 17, 2010 Quoteso we have a reason to invade the country. I haven't confirmed but heard earlier today that Haiti was considered the 3rd most corrupt government in the world. Can we take over or would that give us too much of a monopoly?You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #33 January 17, 2010 I said "may". No worries............I'll behave........ "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #34 January 18, 2010 QuoteThere are enough troops now, start getting food and medical supplies to the people before they die. How do you know there are enough troops? Why are the Belgian medics leaving citing lack of security if there are enough troops? You have zero idea what you are talking about. Derek V Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,379 #35 January 18, 2010 Quotebrazil has had food aid turned away now too, while air conditioning units and water supplies for US troops have been unloaded. When there are more planes coming in than runway to deal with them, something will be turned away. It's inevitable. As it is, a) water is generally more critical than food, you can go much longer without food than without water and b) I'd imagine that a lot of food aid is getting into the country, not all of it is being turned away, only the stuff that genuinely can't be dealt with under the circumstances. Quoteand 5 days later there are still people that do not have food but are able to be interview for television. Right. Question time: What is more difficult, delivering food to every one of several hundred thousand homeless people in a shattered city, or interviewing a few people? I'm not sure how you expect the troops and aid workers to be able to achieve perfect coverage of food distribution before any reporters find their way into the country. Side point: You know what? Reporters are actually important. They raise the profile of the disaster in the eyes of the public which leads to a lot more donations than you'd get if no-one outside knew what was going on. Quotei don't hate america, but i don't appreciate seeing people dying in television. Then turn off the TV and just imagine that the world is a perfect and happy place where logistical realities don't exist. QuoteThere are enough troops now, start getting food and medical supplies to the people before they die. So you think they're all just sitting around waiting at the moment? They have started, it's just going to be a heck of a lot more difficult than you seem to reliase.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #36 January 18, 2010 have you ever been to haiti? its the most fucked up and impoverished place i've ever been. worse that eritrea, worse that venezuala. worse that the barios around rio. without this disaster people were fucked. that place was fucked. i can't imagine how hard it is now to get aid to everybody. people there are trying to help. i'm sure they're doing the best they can, you're just trying to find another way to demonize the u.s. how about the next time there's a disaster anywhere in the world, you get in there on day one and show everyone how to run the relief effort smoothly. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #37 January 18, 2010 +1 I was just watching "60 Minutes" and the reporter there said the 82nd Airborne had to circle for 5 hours before they could land at the airfield on Haiti. So much for rhys' accusation of prefferential treatment.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #38 January 18, 2010 QuoteQuoteGW just said . . . Who is GW? Anyway, if you have a problem with the way the US is coming to the rescue of another country in need, feel free to load up a plane and parachute in with supplies. Dittio. Rhys, STFU. You are seriously out there bitching about donation and generosity not being good enough. You're a true piece of work.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #39 January 18, 2010 QuoteQuoteIt's all his fault!!! I think the only asshole in this thread may be one who started it.........Shocked moderators can you please sort the PA's out, it is quite pathetic. You openly attack a group of people and want to hide behind an internet persona. Crybaby.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rynodigsmusic 0 #40 January 18, 2010 QuoteMan you realllllly hate the US dont you? I dont think he hates the US, I think he blames us for alot of the suffering in the world, like so many who are on the outside looking in."We didn't start the fire" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rynodigsmusic 0 #41 January 18, 2010 Quoteand 5 days later there are still people that do not have food but are able to be interview for television. The reporters are one of the main reasons aid is coming in at all, right? They also investigate the corrupt uses of it as well. I have no doubt that the Hatian government wouldnt mind pocketing billions of dollars at the expense of thousands of their own people dying. Money is VERY powerful. Quotei don't hate america, but i don't appreciate seeing people dying in television I dont think anyone thinks you hate us. We dont want to see people dying on TV either. Surely your seeing you may have jumped the gun on this one... which is something we all do at times."We didn't start the fire" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #42 January 18, 2010 QuoteRhys, cut it out Cut what out Bill?"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #43 January 18, 2010 Quote Quote Rhys, cut it out Cut what out Bill? rho=m/v HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,772 #44 January 18, 2010 >Cut what out Bill? "i suppose they are all just sand niggers right?" "for fucks sake woman pull your fucking head in!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #45 January 18, 2010 On a related note, Pat Robertson, televangelist extraordinaire, has said that Haiti deserved this earthquake, since they made a pact with the devil, 200 years ago. http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/NewsDetails.aspx?storyid=268744Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,853 #46 January 18, 2010 HAITI AIRPORT THE BEACHHEAD AND BOTTLENECK FOR AID (http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1551-full.html#201851) January 14, United States Air Force Special Tactics personnel were on the ground controlling airport operations at Toussaint L'Ouverture International, Haiti, but the ramp area was already saturated with 44 aircraft, forcing a temporary closure. The airport operates a control tower, two fuel trucks and one 9,974-foot runway. The control tower was rendered useless by the January 12 earthquake. Initial aid flights arrived using the UNICOM frequency to organize themselves, then by a U.S. Coast Guard Cutter off the coast. But two days later, the airspace was closed, turning away 11 aircraft that had been waiting for other flights to depart so they could land. Among those turned away was a C-130 from the 15th Special Operations Squadron at Hurlburt Field, Fla.. With ground damage hindering the expedient dispersion of supplies, and physical space preventing further arrivals, departures were at the same time beginning to be challenged by a dwindling fuel supply. The American aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson had by Thursday been dispatched to the region, primarily looking at providing increased helicopter capacity in the afflicted area.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rynodigsmusic 0 #47 January 18, 2010 QuoteOn a related note, Pat Robertson, televangelist extraordinaire, has said that Haiti deserved this earthquake, since they made a pact with the devil, 200 years ago. Thats ridiculous... and it goes against the teachings of the Gospel."We didn't start the fire" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,772 #48 January 18, 2010 Cut it out, JP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #49 January 19, 2010 Quote"i suppose they are all just sand niggers right?" That was sarcasm, you should all have understood that but it seems you did not (understanding sarcasm is not a strong point for Americans), how is that a breach of forum rules? Quote"for fucks sake woman pull your fucking head in!" Borderline, but point taken!"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #50 January 19, 2010 Quote'm curious as to if the aircraft that were rerouted or held had a flight plan that notified of their ETA of if they just called 20 minutes out for permission to land. Quote Very good point. I don't know who else noticed, but the US military is basically running the airport operations. I would be willing to bet that the planes being told not to land are the ones who fail to coordinate prior to heading out. Of course this theory completely disallows bitching about how stupid the US is so lets just throw it out the window shall we. Lets also say that the troops that landed were carrying Al-Qaeda propaganda to be distributed around the country so we have a reason to invade the country. Who's with me? I guess we have invaded this country according to France http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/haiti/7020908/US-accused-of-occupying-Haiti-as-troops-flood-in.html"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 2 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
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