Coreece 190 #51 November 21, 2008 Quote I don't care a whole lot of a 10-year-old calls me lazy. But I do if my boss does. So wat is you tryin to say? Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georgerussia 0 #52 November 21, 2008 QuoteIf you take "pride" in something you were born with and have no control over, isn't that kind of silly? Why is anybody "proud" of something they had no hand in whatsoever? Like "proud to be American"? :)* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #53 November 21, 2008 QuoteQuoteIf you take "pride" in something you were born with and have no control over, isn't that kind of silly? Why is anybody "proud" of something they had no hand in whatsoever? Like "proud to be American"? :) Great! Now read the rest of the thread. We've covered that.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tuna-Salad 0 #54 November 21, 2008 Some stuff there I agree with and some I don't.. The reason we cannot have white histroy month is because most 'American History' was made by white people. So in reality white history is being taught through most of the year. One thing I do not get though is that blacks / african americans .. whatever.. want equal rights and to be treated like everyone else yet they keep segregating themselves and drawing attention to their race. Just my $0.02 (But not worth spending anywhere) For those of you who know "Foamy the squirrel" he said it best. "Everybody's a racist, except me cuz I'm black"Millions of my potential children died on your daughters' face last night. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georgerussia 0 #55 November 21, 2008 QuoteQuoteLike "proud to be American"? :) Great! Now read the rest of the thread. We've covered that. Sorry, I didn't make myself clear enough. "Proud to be American" in my interpretation sounds different comparing to "proud to be black". The first one does not sound to me like someone is really proud just by the fact he was born in the USA, but more like you said it - being proud of the country accomplishments and being somehow associated with them through ancestry. Even though this is something you do not have any control over, and therefore could be considered "a little silly". "Proud to be black" definitely sounds different.* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #56 November 21, 2008 Quote Quote The following was sent to me by my mom So this is what you've been taught. obviously your mother feels a certain way and that is how you were raised. i find the email to be complete bullshit-- sorry that i'm not being as eloquent as others but that's just cutting to the point. I am not surprised but you are wrong. I am not bigoted or racisit. I have been at the recieving end of racist driven bullshit and I am white. I lived with non whites in CO and in college. So, I now understand that you think it is ok for a black to call whites bigoted racist names but the other way around is a crime or worse. Your consistancy is disgusting I guess I cut to your bullshit statements point as well huh?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #57 November 21, 2008 By the way, I think it is wrong either way. sorry that the hypocrisy of this issue does not bother you......"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #58 November 21, 2008 QuoteSome stuff there I agree with and some I don't.. The reason we cannot have white histroy month is because most 'American History' was made by white people. So in reality white history is being taught through most of the year. One thing I do not get though is that blacks / african americans .. whatever.. want equal rights and to be treated like everyone else yet they keep segregating themselves and drawing attention to their race. Just my $0.02 (But not worth spending anywhere) For those of you who know "Foamy the squirrel" he said it best. "Everybody's a racist, except me cuz I'm black" Kind of like a comment in another thread. Seperate but equal ...."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #59 November 21, 2008 Quote I guess I cut to your bullshit statements point as well huh? *** ummm no, not really. I lived with non whites in CO and in college. *** wow.. that's amazing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #60 November 21, 2008 Quote Quote I guess I cut to your bullshit statements point as well huh? *** ummm no, not really. I lived with non whites in CO and in college. *** wow.. that's amazing. See, I knew you would not get it wow .... thats amazing"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #61 November 21, 2008 QuoteSeems to be a popular thing on this site today. The following was sent to me by my mom. I dont know or care if where it came from is true or not. That fact does not take away from the point made. And it is a good one. QuoteTO BE WHITE! This is great. I have been wondering about why Whites are racists, and no other race is..... Proud to be White Michael Richards makes his point.....................Michael Richards better known as Kramer from TVs Seinfeld does make a good point. This was his defense speech in court after making racial comments in his comedy act.. He makes some very interesting points... Someone finally said it... How many are actually paying attention to this? There are African Americans, Mexican Americans, AsianAmericans, Arab Americans, etc. And then there are just Americans. You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction. You call me 'White boy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey,' 'Whitey,' 'Caveman'... and that's OK. But when I call you, Nigger, Kike, Towel head, Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink .. You call me a racist. You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you... so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live? You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day. You have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day. You have Yom Hashoah. You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi. You have the NAACP. You have BET... If we had WET (White Entertainment Television), we'd be racists. If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists. If we had White History Month, we'd be racists. If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance' OUR, lives we'd be racists. We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce. Wonder who pays for that?? A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant but any color can be in the Miss America pageant. If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships ...You know we'd be racists. There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US . Yet if there were 'White colleges' That would be a racist college. In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists. You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists. You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist. I am proud... But you call me a racist. Why is it that only whites can be racists?? There is nothing improper about this e-mail. Let's see which of you are proud enough to send it on. I sadly don't think many will. That's why we have lost most of OUR RIGHTS in this country. We won't stand up for ourselves! BE PROUD TO BE WHITE ! I t's not a crime yet ... but getting real close! Dude...rich, but then again what am I to say? You just can't argue with: 1. A box of hair...or, 2. A bag of hammers...or, 3. A pile of manure...or, 4. A heap of of bricks...or, 5. A lemur's ass...or, 6. Stack of hay...or, 7. Sarah Palin...or, 8. An elefant's burp...or any other thing thak has no ability to think. Just can't argue with that. Have to accept it's exsitence, have to acknowledge it's presence, may use it for some purpose sometimes, but can't argue with it.jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #62 November 21, 2008 QuoteSee, I knew you would not get it wow .... thats amazing I don't get it? it's you that doesn't get it-- to tear apart the email line by line would be futile. Sometimes you have to look at the sum of the parts and it just doesn't quite add up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #63 November 21, 2008 Quote Quote See, I knew you would not get it wow .... thats amazing I don't get it? it's you that doesn't get it-- to tear apart the email line by line would be futile. Sometimes you have to look at the sum of the parts and it just doesn't quite add up. Only if you dont open your eyes. I threw the same crap (like you posted ) back at you. You dont like it. Imagine that"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #64 November 21, 2008 QuoteI threw the same crap (like you posted ) back at you. You dont like it. Imagine that you did? wow.. you're a smart one, aren't you. And what you said to me directly doesn't bother me at all. The fact that you even posted the email to begin with speaks volumes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #65 November 21, 2008 And by the way my man...going in the direction you were taking it: Barack Obama is neither black nor white, Asian or Native American. He is not catholic, baptist, jewish or muslim. He is Mr. President. That is what he is - MR. PRESIDENT. Get used to it.jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #66 November 21, 2008 Both of you cut it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #67 November 21, 2008 QuoteAnd by the way my man...going in the direction you were taking it: Barack Obama is neither black nor white, Asian or Native American. He is not catholic, baptist, jewish or muslim. He is Mr. President. That is what he is - MR. PRESIDENT. Get used to it. Yes, he is. and I will show him more respect than you and yours showed President Bush"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #68 November 21, 2008 QuoteBoth of you cut it out. Bill, you are so forcefull you are making me horny, horny....shivers!jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cari 0 #69 November 21, 2008 QuoteQuoteBoth of you cut it out. Bill, you are so forcefull you are making me horny, horny....shivers! +1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 0 #70 November 21, 2008 The whole premise of the original message is bullshit and racist. QuoteYou pass me on the street and sneer in my direction. You call me 'White boy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey,' 'Whitey,' 'Caveman'... and that's OK. Who is you? The black man? I've talked to 4 black people today and none of them sneered at me. None of them called me names. And none of them said it was "OK" for anyone else to do so. So for the fuck who wrote this email to imply that is how all blacks behave, or is even a normal occurrence... that's racist. He is generalizing about a whole group of people based on what has obviously happened to him from a few individuals. That's pretty much the definition of racism. QuoteBut when I call you, Nigger, Kike, Towel head, Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink .. You call me a racist. Yes, and I'd call him a racist too. If this guy has a problem with somebody who called him a name, his proper response would be to take it up with them. Now, if they happened to be black, and he instead goes on the internet and writes a long message about how blacks are racist to him... that is going to make him look like what he is: a big fat fucking racist. Because again, he is generalizing about their whole race based on how a few of them have treated him. Yes, of course there are racist blacks out there. Does this guy honestly think this essay will make them less racist? By condemning the whole black race for the racism of a few, will it make those few wise up? Or will it just make the rest of the black race (and me, and anybody else with a brain) disgusted by him?www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #71 November 21, 2008 QuoteThe whole premise of the original message is bullshit and racist. QuoteYou pass me on the street and sneer in my direction. You call me 'White boy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey,' 'Whitey,' 'Caveman'... and that's OK. Who is you? The black man? I've talked to 4 black people today and none of them sneered at me. None of them called me names. And none of them said it was "OK" for anyone else to do so. So for the fuck who wrote this email to imply that is how all blacks behave, or is even a normal occurrence... that's racist. He is generalizing about a whole group of people based on what has obviously happened to him from a few individuals. That's pretty much the definition of racism. QuoteBut when I call you, Nigger, Kike, Towel head, Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink .. You call me a racist. Yes, and I'd call him a racist too. If this guy has a problem with somebody who called him a name, his proper response would be to take it up with them. Now, if they happened to be black, and he instead goes on the internet and writes a long message about how blacks are racist to him... that is going to make him look like what he is: a big fat fucking racist. Because again, he is generalizing about their whole race based on how a few of them have treated him. Yes, of course there are racist blacks out there. Does this guy honestly think this essay will make them less racist? By condemning the whole black race for the racism of a few, will it make those few wise up? Or will it just make the rest of the black race (and me, and anybody else with a brain) disgusted by him? The whole point I was trying to a point that was lost/ignored in the very first post I am not trying sterotype or link and groups in bunch. However, it is done to some extent the other way around. As being disgusted by the writer? Not at all. His point are very valid. It IS that way in many respects, maybe just not to the extreem written. People feel too much and not think. that is what I feel has happened with this thread."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #72 November 21, 2008 QuoteThe whole point I was trying to a point that was lost/ignored in the very first post I would suggest then that it wasnt a very effective way to make a point... whatever point it was.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #73 November 21, 2008 QuoteQuoteThe whole point I was trying to a point that was lost/ignored in the very first post I would suggest then that it wasnt a very effective way to make a point... whatever point it was. Maybe, but the viseral comments were way over the top for what this was........"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #74 November 21, 2008 Quote People feel too much and not think. that is what I feel has happened with this thread. I think you're feeling too much ... "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #75 November 21, 2008 Trust me on this.... Those who have lived a lifetime of being discriminated against because of their race or gender or sexual orientation...... can spot or hear the words of a racist or misogynist or homophobe in a heartbeat When its a waddlin and a quackin.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites