Who won the 2nd presidential debate? 10/07/2008

[SkyChimp 0]

Who won the 2nd presidential debate?

Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?!

[quade 3]

This forum isn't exactly a representative sample.

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[SkyChimp 0]

Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?!

[ianmdrennan 2]

Well, across the board (even FOX) are calling it a win for Obama. I just about fell off my chair when FOX declared Obama the winner (which I disagree with btw).

Personally I think it was a tie. I thought McCain did great, as did Obama. It was a far better watch (for me) than the Palin debate debakle.

A good, strong showing, by both candidates IMO.

Ian

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[kallend 1,648]

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Well, across the board (even FOX) are calling it a win for Obama. I just about fell off my chair when FOX declared Obama the winner (which I disagree with btw).

Personally I think it was a tie. I thought McCain did great, as did Obama. It was a far better watch (for me) than the Palin debate debakle.

A good, strong showing, by both candidates IMO.

Ian

Obama won by not losing.

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We'll see how close this poll is (and just how far off to the right this forum is) when we compare it to the other, more representative polls, tomorrow. The ones up tonight are a little wild. If FoxNews is calling it a win for Obama, then just how far right IS this forum?

Right now this poll has McCain 56% and Obama at 25%. Uh . . . yeah . . . that's close to everyone else!

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[alw 0]

In the first debate Obama won by not losing?
In this debate McCain lost by not winning?

Who won? The television sponsors.

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OBTW buying mortgages is not new. McCain was talking about that in April.

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[Rstanley0312 0]

Kall.... unfortunatly I believe you are right. When McCain said he was going to socialize the bad mortgages I then realized I am voting Libertarian. He just lost my vote.... both of these candidates have no clue what is best for us nor are they proposing solutions that will help. If we get out of this it will have nothing to do with whom is in office.

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[drdive 0]

As usual, whoever "wins", we all lose

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Who won? The television sponsors.

Uh . . . I'm guessing that you're not aware that for the most part the networks don't make a lot of money on the election coverage. I'm 100% dead serious here.

CSpan? No sponsors.
PBS? No sponsors.
ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox, FoxNews, NBC, MSNBC? Hours of coverage without a commercial break.

Election coverage is, for the most part, a loss leader for the benefit of a network's "image."

How much money did you think they made by running no commercials in prime time?

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[riddler 0]

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When McCain said he was going to socialize the bad mortgages I then realized I am voting Libertarian.

I was thinking the same thing! After months of the right talking about how we have become a socialist nation, for McCain to say he was going to spend another $300 billion buying the bad loans seemed incredibly socialist. Of course, I assumed he would let the families in those houses stay there, but then again, he never said he wouldn't kick them out.

Anyway, McCain did a better job tonight than he did in the first debate. But he started off with a severe handicap, since the Dow took another big hit on Wall Street today. The election will be won or lost on the economy, not on foreign relations, energy, or anything else.

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[alw 0]

Yes I am aware, it was a metaphor.

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[Rstanley0312 0]

and guess what.... the DOW will be going up and down for a bit.... it is not changing anytime soon. Almost all of my clients are pulling out or in a holding pattern. If that keeps up then nothing will change and nothing the Fed does will really change that. Another cut in rates might get some people back in but then the dollar will just get devalued more.

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Well, across the board (even FOX) are calling it a win for Obama. I just about fell off my chair when FOX declared Obama the winner (which I disagree with btw).

Personally I think it was a tie. I thought McCain did great, as did Obama. It was a far better watch (for me) than the Palin debate debakle.

A good, strong showing, by both candidates IMO.

Ian

Fox had Biden the winner the other night too: 57/43.

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http://news.aol.com/elections/debates/article/mccain-obama-clash-in-second-debate/188495


Fair sample size

[Elisha 1]

I prefer "They both sucked" instead of "It was a tie"

[quade 3]

Okies. It's 11pm pacific and the forum has come to it's senses about this.

Wanna see something fun? Go over to The Drudge Report and see how the people there are responding to tonight's debate. As of this moment they're putting it 64-32 in favor of McCain! Wow. Talk about out of touch.

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[Coreece 190]

After watching the Debate a second time, its clear Obama wins in general....

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[rhys 0]

considering the majority of the people that post in this forum are right wing (even if they think they are centre), it is obvious that obama must have won hands down.

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[Coreece 190]

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considering the majority of the people that post in this forum are right wing (even if they think they are centre), it is obvious that obama must have won hands down.

Ya man...that's cool with me too...

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[airdvr 200]

McCain needed to hit a home run...he dribbled a bunt down the first base line.

I think his hands are a bit tied right now. If he jumps on Barry hard he comes off as a bitter old man.

Please don't dent the planet.

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[kallend 1,648]

(CNN) -- A national poll of debate watchers suggests that Sen. Barack Obama won the second presidential debate.

Fifty-four percent of those questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey conducted after the debate ended said that Obama did the best job in the debate, with 30 percent saying Sen. John McCain performed better.

According to the poll, 64 percent had a favorable opinion of Obama after the debate, up four points from before the event. Fifty-one percent of those polled had a favorable opinion of McCain after the debate unchanged from before its start.

A majority said Obama seemed to be the stronger leader during the debate, 54 percent to 43 percent, and by a more than two to one margin -- 65 percent to 28 percent -- viewers thought Obama was more likable during the debate.

CNN polling director Keating Holland said Obama made some gains on the leadership issue even before the debate.

"McCain's advantage on leadership shrunk from 19 points in September to just five points this weekend," Holland said. "If Obama can use this debate to convince Americans that he is a stronger leader than McCain, he may be difficult to defeat."

A majority of debate watchers polled thought Obama was more intelligent, by a 57 percent to 25 percent margin over McCain. Debate watchers also thought Obama more clearly expressed his views by a two to one margin, 60 percent to 30 percent.

Debate watchers questioned thought McCain, rather than Obama, spent more time attacking his opponent, with 63 percent saying McCain went more on the attack, as opposed to just 17 percent saying Obama.

Half of those polled said Obama answered questions more directly, 13 points ahead of McCain, and by a 14-point margin, debate watchers thought Obama seemed to care more about the problems of audience members who asked questions. Read entire transcript of debate

McCain did come out on top in one category that neither candidate wants to win. By a 16-point margin, debate watchers thought the Arizona senator seemed more like a typical politician during the debate.

"For McCain, the key finding may be that his favorable rating did not change at all," Holland said. "It's unclear whether Obama will gain any momentum from Tuesday night's debate, but it looks like McCain will not do so. For a candidate who has consistently been a few points behind in national polls, that's not a good sign."

The poll suggests that independent voters thought Obama won the debate. Fifty-four percent of those identifying themselves as independents said the Illinois senator performed best, with 28 percent saying that McCain did the better job.

Among Democrats, 85 percent said Obama won with just 5 percent saying McCain did better. Among Republicans, 64 percent said McCain won, with 16 percent saying Obama did better.

Most debate watchers thought Obama won the first presidential debate on September 26. According to a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll taken after that debate, 51 percent of those polled thought Obama did the better job, while 38 percent said John McCain did better.

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