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RushMC, do you feel the playing field for non-whites has been level for the past....40 years? Not even a full generation. Has the playing field been level? Is it level now?
In a word? No. But I can tell you it is not level where I work either. And I am not the one getting the benifit.
My point more than anything else is, if you want an excuse, you can find one.
Will any field ever be level? Is life fair? (remember that one?)
Only you (self) can decide if you need to find an excuse or, over come the bs.
The video was bs. Obamas speach was bs and that is supported by what he did today.
Anyone can play the victim. The black community has a few brave souls who have pointed this out (Cosby is one of them) and they get attacked. Why, cause Faracon and Jackson make money with thier victims.
Anybody, playing a victim only suceeds in giving themselves the excuse to (fill in the blank)
And that in not just blacks....
Well heck, if a black man (Bill Cosby) points out that his people have problems, then damn! He MUST be absolutely right because HE did it, and HE is black, and HE can see the problems of black America even from his ivory tower (formerly the highest-paid entertainer in the US). Ouch, my cheek hurts.
So...We'll play basketball. Let's tilt the court in my direction so that to score the same basket, your team has to run uphill for every one of their goals. While we're at it, we'll put hobbles on your team as well. We'll leave the hobbles in place and the court tilted for all but the last 5 minutes of the game.
I'm sure that you won't mind when after the game I'm standing in front of the world saying "The court is flat, they had the same opportunity to win as I did.
Your perspective is that all people of color choose to be victims.
A-that has nothing to do with this video
B-it's incorrect
C-Even with all the incentives the government provides on the surface, does that mean they really work anyway? If so, why aren't there high numbers of non-whites running around the USA, in any percentage of high office or community representation? it sure isn't because anyone is stupid or incapable....
BTW, it's "Farrakhan." And he's a caricature. Just like Bill Cosby. Just like Bill O'Reilly, just like Jon Stewart. They're role-playing. If you buy into one of them, you have to buy into all of them, IMO. They're all equally disconnected from the people they purport to represent. You don't think Bill Cosby makes money from his color and his words?
I agree, there are lots of excuses. On BOTH sides.
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I have no idea where you got some of your conclusions from.
Imagine that.
When you want to have a discussion involving opposing ideas why dont you come back. It could be good learning for both of us.
By the way. You, yes YOU, distort terribly the point I was trying to make and that is a shame
HINT: speaking in absolutes is a tactic
Imagine that.
When you want to have a discussion involving opposing ideas why dont you come back. It could be good learning for both of us.
By the way. You, yes YOU, distort terribly the point I was trying to make and that is a shame
HINT: speaking in absolutes is a tactic
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
This guy should get over himself. He's just another apologist for Wright. There's no way to finesse "9/11 was the chickens coming home to roost". Wright's is not liberation theology, it's the philosophy of "my pain is the only pain worth respecting." And he's shown just how self-centered he is with his recent actions. He could give a shit whether he's helping or hurting Obama.
billvon 2,400
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>There's no way to finesse "9/11 was the chickens coming home to roost".
Let's take a counterexample.
Let's say that people decided that we're not doing enough for affirmative action. They decide to exclude whites from certain schools to "balance things" - and suddenly you find yourself unable to get an education, outside of a shack someone builds to teach the whites who can't get into the public schools. You find out that you're not allowed to get married to the woman you love, because the government decides to push interracial marriages in the interests of racial harmony. You are denied every job you apply for because you're not black.
What would your response be? Would you just suck it up and not bitch about it? Or would you play the victim card, and criticize the system instead of "taking responsibility for your own failures?"
Let's take a counterexample.
Let's say that people decided that we're not doing enough for affirmative action. They decide to exclude whites from certain schools to "balance things" - and suddenly you find yourself unable to get an education, outside of a shack someone builds to teach the whites who can't get into the public schools. You find out that you're not allowed to get married to the woman you love, because the government decides to push interracial marriages in the interests of racial harmony. You are denied every job you apply for because you're not black.
What would your response be? Would you just suck it up and not bitch about it? Or would you play the victim card, and criticize the system instead of "taking responsibility for your own failures?"
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Quote>There's no way to finesse "9/11 was the chickens coming home to roost".
Let's take a counterexample.
Let's say that people decided that we're not doing enough for affirmative action. They decide to exclude whites from certain schools to "balance things" - and suddenly you find yourself unable to get an education, outside of a shack someone builds to teach the whites who can't get into the public schools. You find out that you're not allowed to get married to the woman you love, because the government decides to push interracial marriages in the interests of racial harmony. You are denied every job you apply for because you're not black.
What would your response be? Would you just suck it up and not bitch about it? Or would you play the victim card, and criticize the system instead of "taking responsibility for your own failures?"
WOW, what a stretch. Do you really think this is an apples to apples comparison?
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
billvon 2,400
>WOW, what a stretch.
Your reply would seem to put you in the group of people he was talking about - people who deny history. That is the environment that Wright grew up in.
Your reply would seem to put you in the group of people he was talking about - people who deny history. That is the environment that Wright grew up in.
And I think you miss the point by the same margin.
Where does that leave us?
Yes, Obams is one of the biggest media supported racists I have ever seen. That is a fact IMO
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
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