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Forget the 9mm... I want a .40

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Actually, the .357 Sig round is being used by quite a number of law enforcement agencies in this country...including at least one federal agency.





I did not know that. My friend was begging the city to buy the police the .357 Sig. They ended up buying the .40. Still a nice round. It just seems the .357 Sig round just isnt that popular for some reason. A lot of people dont know about, or never heard of it. If you look at the numbers side by side it beats a .357 mag.
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My wife, carried (still does) a .40 Glock as an investigator for years and loves it. I recently watched her qualify at the range and she out-shot the men!:D I used it to qualify for my concealed carry permit and found it to be a nice pistol. She has the smaller frame model. I read a recent study in regard to pistols carried by law enforcement throughout this country and the .40 was found to be 'the best all-around for both men and women.' I like it because there is very little recoil to it. Just a good choice IMO.


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That gun is a wonderful piece of engineering! I've crossed the 9mm off my "to buy after vet bills are paid" list and replaced it with the .40. It's a little more expensive to practice with, but the extra firepower is probably worth it. Opinions?
I have a .40 and a 9x19.....I realy want a 10mm!
They are also expensive to practice with but if your willing to handload.... you can load them to act like a .40 or you can load them to out perform a .45, and way more accurate! It is a totaly flat flying round and has the knock downpower to boot at 100 yards!

Comparison would be like having a .41 magnum in an Auto at full power loads.
Know how you can shoot .38 out of a .357 mag.?
Well you can load this round to your special desire.
Good Luck:)

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For overall concealability, power, ergonomics, the Springfield XD is my personal favorite, hands down and will be now my primary carry pistol. I guess I will have to start reloading 9mm now. <<<

Dotto.. I just got one also, love that little SOB. Did you get Black or Olive Drab?
I love the look and feel of the subcompact xd, I also chose the 9mm, cause of ammo avability, magazine capacity.
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There is an excellent way to achieve .44mag performance out of a .45acp and still have the recoil of less than a .45acp

It is a gas system developed for the 1911, not cheap but when you need a damned cannon, it is there for you.

somehow I think that the casing is pretty full when loaded like that.

http://www.ncggasgun.com/

I know someone who was able to load the casing a bit hotter than the published data, as if the published was not hot enough for a 200grain round.

Gene03 turned me onto this, and I in turn let a few guys on the east coast know about it.

They were very enthusiastic.

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so you have to "qualify" to obtain a concealed carry in TX?
In FL, just a 4 hour "safety" course or a DD-214.

and a clean record of course...;)



Yessir! It's an 8-hr. course. Laws and regulations in regard to carrying a concealed pistol are covered as well as qualifying at the range and a true-false multiple guess test. Also, a background check and fingerprintsare checked also prior to taking the class. See! You guys thought it was 'so easy' to get a concealed carry permit in Texas.:D Actually, it was quite informative and interesting. We had a little guy in the class I had who qualified with a Desert Eagle!!!:D:D


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Everyone has been talking about the Sig and Glock. Now these both are without a doubt great guns. One gun that I have and absolutely love is the Smith and Wesson M&P 9mm. It is also available in a .40 and .357sig. It also comes with three changeable grips for just the right fit! I chose the 9mm due to the cheapest ammo to use. As for knock down power? Too many people put too much emphasis on this. Unless you are law enforcement, I wouldn't worry about that but that's up to the individual. Let's just say that I wouldn't want to be hit by any of them!! Plus my S&W holds 17 rounds in one mag! The .40 however is a compromise between the 9mm and the .45ACP. But check out the M&P in any caliber. It's a sweet firing gun for around 500.00.;)

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E As for knock down power? Too many people put too much emphasis on this. Unless you are law enforcement, I wouldn't worry about that but that's up to the individual.



IPSC gun games give guns which cross the "major power" momentum threshold a scoring advantage.

If you are going through the trouble of getting a gun for the rare social situation which requires one, why not get one that makes your chances of success highest?

This probably means a shotgun for home defense (9-12 9mm bullets sure beat one!) and something small and concealable for other cases (the gun doesn't work when its at home).

Then comes stopping power...

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IPSC gun games give guns which cross the "major power" momentum threshold a scoring advantage.

If you are going through the trouble of getting a gun for the rare social situation which requires one, why not get one that makes your chances of success highest?

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True I agree, That wasn't part of my decision though. To each his own:)

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IMO, there's no better _stopping power_ than the sound of an 870 chambering a round. ;)

I've often considered inventing a house alarm that made that sound, rather than a regular house alarm. :D



Screen doors make that sound too. Kicked over toys. Stuff falling off shelves. You would be surprised how many aren't afraid of that sound. I sure woudn't want to tip off to someone crazy enough to rob an occupied house that I just now chambered a round. He might shoot me.
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I went to the range today, because after the week I've had I really needed to blow off some stress. I felt like shooting something that would make bigger holes in the target than the 9mm Glock 17 I usually rent when I want to practice with something with more power than my .22 ruger, so I asked for an HK USP .40. That gun is a wonderful piece of engineering! I've crossed the 9mm off my "to buy after vet bills are paid" list and replaced it with the .40. It's a little more expensive to practice with, but the extra firepower is probably worth it. Opinions?



Yep, I like the .40 as well!:)

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others mean and rueful of the western dream"

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