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www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=6a6f7e22-1f49-443d-812e-cbde33535e6e&k=77394

Man held in cop shooting 'feared for his family'
Suspect mistook officers with battering ram for thieves, lawyer says

SUE MONTGOMERY, The Gazette
Published: Tuesday, March 06, 2007

Basile Parasiris, his wife and two children awoke in a panic as police used a battering ram to break into their Brossard home and then started firing their guns inside during Friday's pre-dawn raid, his lawyer said yesterday.

Lawyer Frank Pappas said his client was trying to defend himself and his family when he grabbed a loaded gun and shot Laval Constable Daniel Tessier - whom Parasiris mistook for a crazed thief.

"If he would've believed it was the police, do you think he would have taken them on?" Pappas said in an interview. "They have more firepower than him."

Parasiris, 41, appeared briefly in Quebec Court in Longueuil yesterday, dressed in a white

T-shirt and dark pants, as tearful family members waved and blew him kisses from the courtroom audience.

Parasiris was arraigned on four counts: first-degree murder in the death of Tessier; attempted murder in the shooting of his partner, Constable Stephane Forbes; firing a gun with the intent to wound Forbes; and endangering Forbes's life.

Parasiris did not enter a formal plea on the charges.

The case was put off until April 16, when a date is to be set for a preliminary hearing.

Pappas is considering applying for bail, but would have to make a special request to Superior Court, which automatically deals with first-degree murder charges.

Parasiris's brother, Nick, said the family is sorry for the death of Tessier, a father of two adolescent girls - but maintained his brother had no idea it was police in his house.

The raid at the Rimouski Cres. home was one of eight that Laval police carried out Friday in Laval and Brossard, following a nine-month investigation of an alleged cocaine and crack trafficking gang based in Laval's Chomedey district.

The seven Laval raids resulted in six arrests and no injuries.

Forbes, 46, was one of at least 13 other officers involved and is recovering in a hospital from a bullet wound to his arm.

According to Pappas, police didn't find anything in the Parasiris home.

"There was no body, no drugs, no large quantities of firearms," he said. "They may have found one or two pills of Viagra that he didn't have a prescription for.

"This guy's no terrorist."

Police should have known that Parasiris kept a registered gun, Pappas said - although he admitted that it was illegal to keep it loaded.

"Absolutely, he should pay for that," Pappas said. "But my client acted responsibly and is absolutely innocent (of first-degree murder)."

While Parasiris was being arraigned, his wife, Penny Panagiota Gounis, was being questioned by police in a hospital, where she is recovering from bullet wounds.

In February, she was an organizer of a fundraising spaghetti dinner at her husband's virtual golf course in Dorval, Golf-O-Max, to raise money for more than 30 people left homeless by a five-alarm blaze at a building on nearby Lepage Ave.

Their 15-year-old son sat in the courtroom yesterday, refusing to look at his father in the prisoner's box. According to Pappas, the son called 911 after the police barged into the family home and bullets started flying.

"Do you think that if they knew they were police officers, they'd call 911?" Pappas said.

The couple's 6-year-old daughter and her brother are being cared for by relatives.

The defence lawyer said he is convinced his client didn't know he was shooting a police officer; otherwise he never would have agreed to take on the case.

"If it had been some gratuitous shooting, where some gang member or someone walked up to a cop and just shot him, I would never defend him," Pappas said, adding he gets along well with all police forces.

"I believe this guy feared for his life and his family, and that's why he did what he did."

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Can you try and explain what the title of the thread has to do with the article?

This was a raid to arrest somebody alledgedly involved in crack and cocaine trafficking and an officer got shot while executing the warrant (they were even at the right address).

So what does that have to do with a lower fear for home invasions and gun violence?

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Can you try and explain what the title of the thread has to do with the article?



You don't expect warpedskydiver to actually READ these articles he reposts, do you? It's a full day's work just to copy and paste all of 'em into the little web form on dropzone.com! Reading them would slow him down.


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1st degree murder? How do they come to that conclusion? I would think the police and prosecutors would prefer to have the story of this screwed up raid go away as quickly and quietly as possible.

Why did they start shooting right away? That doesn't make sense either. What were they shooting at?

And you thought police in the US were bad? I'd like to think there is more to this story than what we've heard so far.
People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

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So, the title of the thread is poor.

Still closer to the subject than the typical, "Check this out." :D
People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

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Kentucky man shoots home invaders

Date created: 3/8/2007 8:35:25 AM
Last updated: 3/8/2007 9:02:02 AM

One of two men who invaded a residence in Boyd County last night has died of wounds inflicted by a man who lived at the house. The dead man is identified as 50-year-old Robert Chapman of Greenup.

The Boyd County sheriff's department reports 23-year-old Jason Daniels was tied up by two men who had impersonated police officers and pounded on the door. When Daniels didn't open the door, the two smashed the door open. Sheriff Terry Keelin says they tied up Daniels in the bathroom and began ransacking the house, but Daniels was able to free himself and obtain his nine millimeter pistol.

The sheriff's report says Daniels was in a "shooting stance" and opened fire when the men headed back toward the bathroom. Chapman was shot the chest, shoulder and wrist.

Keelin says the two then fled, with the wounded Chapman crashing through a bedroom window of the single-story frame house. The other intruder, identified by Keelin as 22-year-old Adam Justice of Summitt, drove Champman three miles to to Kings Daughters Medical Center in Ashland and left him outside the emergency room.

Justice was charged with burglary and impersonating a police officer. A grand jury will be asked to decide if Daniels will be charged, but Keelin says none have been filed so far.

http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=43094&provider=gnews

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I sure hope there are more charges than just burglary and impersonating an officer.
People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

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1st degree murder? How do they come to that conclusion? I would think the police and prosecutors would prefer to have the story of this screwed up raid go away as quickly and quietly as possible.

Why did they start shooting right away? That doesn't make sense either. What were they shooting at?

And you thought police in the US were bad? I'd like to think there is more to this story than what we've heard so far.



Police in Quebec have a bad reputation. I have personally had a run-in with one yet I am law abiding to a fault.

They have had a history of intolerant attitudes and excessive force even to the point where pro-cop types find them to be too much.
My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within.

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And that was the Laval PD.... the bottom of the chum bucket.



I don't know, the Surete de Quebec (recall their handling of OKA) have some real winners, not to mention the hull police force.

A native woman in hull was hit by a car and when her freind tried to get the cops to help they looked at her unconscious freind and said "She's not hurt, she's just another drunken squaw" and they picked her up, carried her over to the curb and left her there. She died of internal injuries and as I recall, neither lost their job.

On another occasion a man was walking a great dane off the leash to prep it for a dog show and they came and gave him a hard time. When he tried to explain, things got rough and nauturally the dog started barking at them so they unloaded 13 bullets into the dog on a crowded street in the nightclub district and then finished it with a shotgun blast to the head (caught on tape). No reprimands.

I always be real carefull around quebec cops.
My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within.

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Lets put it this way: the Laval PD was so corrupt, that it was a hair away from being put under the tutellage of the Surete (yes, the Surete you mentioned... lol)



:D:D

Thats why the gangs in quebec are so violent. They need to be able to keep up with the cops.
My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within.

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Tom - I noticed Warpedskydiver has been banned for 30 days for essentially mentioning he knows whats wrong with someone,etc. Which is fair enough. The ban that is.

He replied to Narcimund's post; 'You don't expect warpedskydiver to actually READ these articles he reposts, do you? It's a full day's work just to copy and paste all of 'em into the little web form on dropzone.com! Reading them would slow him down.'

I'm just trying to understand the forum rules - it seems we have two PA's here, yet only one's banned? How does that work then?

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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How does that work then?



Far be it from me to speculate about a moderator's state of mind, but it's plausible that my snide remark that the OP's article didn't actually support the position he thought it did is slightly less inflamatory than his response that he wishes I was dead.


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Wishing somebody dead is bad news indeed - what's also bad news is winding somebody up so that he makes such a statement.

Now, you didn't make the statement, he did!

So whilst you're aware of his ban, you still deliberatley wind him up on another forum, despite his requests to leave him alone.

What can I say Nacrimund - the case is presented - you've presented yourself.

So I therefore have nothing to say about you - you've already described yourself - case closed.

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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No you haven't got it - look back - the question was posed to Tom.

Initially I don't remember asking you a thing.

You popped up to defend your case yourself.

Anyway - I couldn't give a fuck.

GUILTY!

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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