mountainman 0 #1 November 18, 2001 I am wondering what the rules say about jumping somewhere that is not on a DZ. For instance, hypothetically speaking, one were to rent a C-182 from an airport for one hour and has a pilot fly the plane. This person would want to get out over their own private property of lots of acres and land there as well. It would not count as a demo and the pilot would not be being paid to do this.So, the question is, would one be able to do this? And if so, what would they have to do to prepare? I have read the FAA rules and regs about it (Part 105), but didn't see anything that would outlaw this. The only thing I could see that would need done would be to notify ATC at least 1 hour before.Anyone know for SURE?? I dont need anyone saying not to do it or whatever because I'm not. I am very curious for the future since my family lives in the country and has lots of land. Also, we have an airport like 5 miles away.Thanks. --------------JumpinDuo.com is here!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pdj6p 0 #2 November 18, 2001 The way I understand it, It is perfectly ok but , every jump no matter were it is made must be ok with the faa. sounds like a fun little boogie. just tell us when and were.Don Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #3 November 18, 2001 I've only heard of two rules for doing something like that. Notifying ATC is the primary rule - you do want controllers and other air traffic to know you'll be there; having the permission of the owner of the land you intend to land on is the other one. Common sense says to check out your intended landing area for hazards from the ground prior to the jump - trees, buildings, power lines, rocks, fences, ponds, tall grass, anything that could even remotely affect a safe landing. With trees and buildings you want to be sure you won't hit them; you also want to be sure that your intended landing area is far enough downwind of them so you'll avoid any rotors. Also look around for outs; don't jump that location if there's only one safe landing area.Hardest part will be finding a pilot who's willing to take you; most non-jump pilots just don't understand opening the door in flight... and most non-jump aircraft owners REALLY don't understand opening the door in flight. pull and flare,lisa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #4 November 18, 2001 Hahah....here is the thing. My parents and Laura's parents both have a pretty good size piece of land and just thought it would be cool to jump onto the property one day. It'll be awhile, but still worth finding out about.I'll let ya know. --------------JumpinDuo.com is here!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #5 November 18, 2001 Thanks LISA.....the land is about 40 acres that they own (parents) and there is nothing but farm around there. Hopefully, one of these days, the ATC will be my friend and grant it ok. Got any ideas of finding someone to fly?? hehe--------------JumpinDuo.com is here!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #6 November 18, 2001 Want to really have some fun? Get a jump plane and pilot, a bunch of friends, a few RV's and tents, and a lot of beer and have your very own boogie on the parent's property. There's a jumper in southern California, Steve Fielding, who used to organize a basically private boogie on a ranch up by Bakersfield at least once a year and from what I heard it was loads of fun. Yeah, be sure to let us all know when your first boogie will be! pull and flare,lisa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merrick 0 #7 November 19, 2001 Yeah, I think Lisa pretty much has it nailed down to what's required, but another thing to consider is, getting out of a c-182 at the DZ is a hell of a lot different than getting out of one owned by a private pilot. First, I doubt you'll find a pilot that's willing to take it off on the ground & leave it off, so you're stuck with a door that doesn't swing up, it opens forward (like a normal door) toward the prop-blast.... as if that isn't enough, there also aren't many pilots that are comfortable with cutting back the speed to a near stall, in fact it scares the hell out of them. Pam & I unfortunately had an opportunity to jump with a new "jump pilot" once (the only other load he'd flown was the one right before ours). He didn't give a cut at all, and had it been a non-jum c-182, we'd have never gotten the door open & out of the way long enough to jump out. LOL - it was definitely an experience."Pammi's Hemp/Skydiving Jewelry" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #8 November 19, 2001 Do make it all legal you must file a NOTAM! Go to any airport and they will tell you how. "Shut up Dummy!"- Fred G Sanford Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #9 November 19, 2001 Hey thanks guys.....if the day comes where we feel up to trying this, we'll see what we can do. That guy at the ranch seems to know how to do it! Can't beat a private boogie!!And you have a point Merrick, opening the door against the propblast will certainly be a lot harder and the same with holding it open. Hmm.....well, there IS a DZ about 45 min away with a 182. Do you think they would rent it for an hour and maybe the pilot would like to fly also? Hmm.....what do you think?This is starting to sound like some fun!! --------------JumpinDuo.com is here!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #10 November 19, 2001 If your gonna ask me to fly...sorry I wanna jump!!!!!!!MarcRes Firma Mitescere Nescite Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #11 November 19, 2001 shit......there goes my whole plan!!! Mike......???? maybe my grandpa will do it.....-------------http://www.JumpinDuo.com"oh no. Not another one"-Alienangel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 3 #12 November 19, 2001 This is not rocket science. File a NOTAM with the FAA, talk to whatever controler is nearby once airborne, and announce your intent to drop at two and one minute, then jumpers away. ChuckMy webpage HERE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #13 November 19, 2001 Quotedrop at two and one minuteWhat does this mean??-------------http://www.JumpinDuo.com"oh no. Not another one"-Alienangel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #14 November 19, 2001 The pilot has to anounce 2 minutes from jump then one minute till jump then Jumpers away and last jumper on the ground to ATC so that ATC can reroute traffic at the right times or call the pilot off if VFR traffic with no radio is under the pilot.I'm not sure what to put here right now..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #15 November 19, 2001 cool man.......thanks for the info. -------------http://www.JumpinDuo.com"oh no. Not another one"-Alienangel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #16 November 19, 2001 Quote shit......there goes my whole plan!!! Mike......???? Sure....I'll fly the plane....and I'll be the last diver out the door.. Unfortunately, each airplane will only be able to fly one load.. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites