rapper4mpi 0 #1 April 2, 2002 Check out the April 2002 USPA Calendar photo: There are a bunch of people in a headdown formation and the guy closest to the camera on the left has his main closing flap OPEN! Plus he's jumping a Mirage! Boy I would not like it if I was Mirage and had this on all those walls! What do you all think?-Rap Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
axe96bam 0 #2 April 2, 2002 I see your point, but it also could have been knocked out on exit or just improperly tucked in.Alex Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rapper4mpi 0 #3 April 2, 2002 Oh yeah, you are most definately right. It could have come out under a number of circumstances, and also could be the first and only time this has ever happened to this guy. BUT, you would think the pictures would be screened and with todays computers, stuff like that can be taken out. If you look at last years calendar there are at least 5 open containers.-Rap Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
axe96bam 0 #4 April 2, 2002 You are right about that - there are a few open container photos. USPA has taken a lot of heat over the last couple of years about the calendars so I though they would screen the pictures more.Alex Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rapper4mpi 0 #5 April 2, 2002 The open container photos are not good public relations for a container manufacter. Basically it is solid proof that their containers open and even worse is the fact that it is a public picture! Anyway, was wondering if anyone else noticed it...-Rap Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChromeBoy 0 #6 April 2, 2002 Somebody scan it and post it here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooked 0 #7 April 2, 2002 I hope this is the right person in the calendar photo you wanted!J Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rapper4mpi 0 #8 April 2, 2002 That's it! See the flap? Thanks.-Rap Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TEB6363 0 #9 April 2, 2002 Before we all get too excited. Please remember that the picture is NOT showing an open container. The pin is still in and the container is still closed. The Dress up flap is no longer tucked in, but that in no way makes it an open container. I agree that is not the best condition, but stuff happens.:::OK, Canopy is Open, No Traffic Around, .. Why are these "Extra" Lines Draping Down??, Damn! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMarshMan1 0 #10 April 2, 2002 QuotePlease remember that the picture is NOT showing an open container.Depends on your definition of "open container", doesnt it?"If I could be like that, I would give anything, just to live one day, in those shoes..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sebazz1 2 #11 April 2, 2002 QuoteDepends on your definition of "open container", doesnt it?An open container is an open container and a falp is either secured or not. It is the job of the flap to protect the pin and the bridle but the container is not open. Not life ending. Geez.........I got your back Tom...........SEBAZZ....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TEB6363 0 #12 April 2, 2002 Thanks Seb, You hold him while I go get the SIM and hit him with it:::OK, Canopy is Open, No Traffic Around, .. Why are these "Extra" Lines Draping Down??, Damn! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #13 April 2, 2002 Telephone books do work better.But it does raise some interesting questions. I'd always figured that main flap style was better then the flaps on javelins, etc. I wonder if that's going to become a common problem?I also wonder what series of events led to the flap opening. Presumably it was stowed properly before exit. Surely it's not a major failure, but it is something we should think about._AmICQ: 5578907MSN Messenger: andrewdmetcalfe at hotmail dot com AIM: andrewdmetcalfeYahoo IM: ametcalf_1999 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #14 April 2, 2002 Just another opinion,Even thou it may not be showing a container in the best possible light, I personally would rather see the REAL deal (pin flap open) instead of wondering if a photo has been retouched....Smells smack dab like honesty to mebaby's hungry and the money's all gone. the folks back home don't want to talk on the phone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #15 April 2, 2002 You would think that if the USPA was paying attention, they would have dropped that photo into photoshop and squared that away real quick just to keep discussions like this from happening...but then again, that's just me."Homer Simpson, smiling politely." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TEB6363 0 #16 April 2, 2002 I found this info and figured I might as well post it before I forgot. From the SIM: PREMATURE MAIN CONTAINER OPENING; With a throw-out main pilot chute deployment system (pilot chute deployment prior to closing pin extraction), the container can open before the pilot chute is deployed, causing one type of horseshoe malfunction.Too bad they do not have a specific definition for "open" container.:::OK, Canopy is Open, No Traffic Around, .. Why are these "Extra" Lines Draping Down??, Damn! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #17 April 2, 2002 i'm unclear on why USPA should have to watch for things like this period. Does USPA represent container manufacturers? In any case, wouldn't retouching a photo be the responsibility of the photographer who submitted it? Would you be pissed off if they retouched one of YOUR photos??pull & flare,lisa"But our reality is in fact entire illusion!"-Gregory Benford Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unisyn 0 #18 April 2, 2002 That is a little embarrassing I have never seen a photo in print of a Mirage open. I know the guy in the photo and he takes care of his gear. I will exchange one bad photo on the USPA calendar for the hundreds of bad photos that the other manufacturers have had to endure. Maybe we should give him a new rig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #19 April 2, 2002 QuoteMaybe we should give him a new rigMe too!!!!! "I'm a danger to myself and everyone around me!"-Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #20 April 2, 2002 If I was that jumper and didn't notice a flap open, but they did I would have been appreciative for them doing it, just to save me some embaressment.No, they don't represent container manufactures, but something like that in a picture leaves only one side of the story. That a flap is open, which isn't an end all, but its not good. We don't know if there was a collision on exit that did it, or in the plane, or something odd and since they (the USPA) published it, it *can* make that manufactor look bad, since it is their rig and there is a flap open.See what I'm saying? *shrug* "Homer Simpson, smiling politely." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sebazz1 2 #21 April 2, 2002 Farken good job DaveNow lets reprint how many calendars?SEBAZZ....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #22 April 2, 2002 Dave!!!!!!!! Put down the Photoshop and slowly back away!!! "I'm a danger to myself and everyone around me!"-Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #23 April 2, 2002 I can't help myself anymore...photoshopping is addicting, atleast I didn't put any cliches in there. "Homer Simpson, smiling politely." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 0 #24 April 2, 2002 QuoteMaybe we should give him a new rig.If you do I'm going to open my main pin flap myself and see if I can get a few pics published. I could always use a new rig. OpieIf your not on the edge, you can't enjoy the view! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TEB6363 0 #25 April 2, 2002 The UFO was a great touch!:::OK, Canopy is Open, No Traffic Around, .. Why are these "Extra" Lines Draping Down??, Damn! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
