lazerq3 0 #1 April 24, 2002 I've always kinda wondered this (and even tried it with NO success) but what if you could think, speak, or perform an action faster than your brain could aknowledge it?? What would be controlling that action or thought process? Would you even need your body at that point........any Ideas or theories......(I know Quade could come up with something good!!) ....jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #2 April 24, 2002 I thought I heard that you actually do that from things like burns and sharp objects. Seems that the pain goes through your arm and then something tells it to get away from the pain/heat before your brain even tells it to do that.Seems that I learned that back in HS health class. But hey, what can you believe in a class they showed you slides of every STD under the sun. JumpinDuo.com...come and sign the guestbook. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #3 April 24, 2002 Well, actually you can perform an action faster than you can think it....if it's a learned behavior. Learned behaviors are nicely programmed into your cerebellum, and the pathway from your cerebellum to your frontal cortex (motor part of your brain) is faster than the pathways that modify those behaviors. That's why it's hard to unlearn bad habits.....like bad tennis strokes or something like that, or why we sign our names the same every time....or why you play licks unconsciously on the guitar and why you have to really slow down to get it right if you find out you've been playing it wrong.... Lindseysome days it's just not worth gnawing through the strapshttp://home.earthlink.net/~linzwalley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #4 April 24, 2002 Those reflexes don't make it to the brain at all before you move.....and they're really cool reflex pathways too, that allow you to withdraw a, say foot from a nail, while extending the opposite foot.....all happens without any brain input....some days it's just not worth gnawing through the strapshttp://home.earthlink.net/~linzwalley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazerq3 0 #5 April 24, 2002 DAMN Lindsey!!!!! Thats some good stuff!!! Never "thought about it like that!!!! Ok so waht about a thought process? Do you think its possible to actually "think" or "speak" faster than your brain can proccess....or is that also a form of reflex from a dramatic stimulant!!???jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #6 April 24, 2002 I would think that speaking would be in the form of yelling to warn someone or something. you notice how you yell something real fast and no words come out....just weird alien sounds. JumpinDuo.com...come and sign the guestbook. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazerq3 0 #7 April 24, 2002 Quotejust weird alien sounds. AH-HA!!! so what your implying is that the "alien sounds " you are talking about may be a form of communication that we could use if we all mastered this feat of speaking with out the use of our brain!!! I thinbk we may be on to something!!jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #8 April 24, 2002 Well, you can't think faster than your brain can process, because thinking involves brain processing....but you can speak faster than your brain can process.....very similar pathway to the one I described involving the cerebellum.....some days it's just not worth gnawing through the strapshttp://home.earthlink.net/~linzwalley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #9 April 24, 2002 I don't think that there's a reflex pathway than involves vocalizations.....but I may be wrong about that....some days it's just not worth gnawing through the strapshttp://home.earthlink.net/~linzwalley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #10 April 24, 2002 Quotebut you can speak faster than your brain can process.....Hmmm... I believe I've proven that one repeatedly in the past! pull & flare,lisa[subliminal msg]My website Go Now[/subliminal msg] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #11 April 24, 2002 I think Lindsey has a cerebrum thing that makes her post before her brain can register that she is done talking. She always has two post in a row.This and this and this and this.........*click*.........oh yeah.....and this and this.......*click* .....just kidding. JumpinDuo.com...come and sign the guestbook. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Milo 0 #12 April 24, 2002 I was driving to work last winter when I went to pass somebody who was turning right (He had the right blinker on.)I was halfway past him when these thoughts collided in my brain: "I just slammed on the brakes" and "Holy S$#@ This guy is turning in front of me!!!"The first thing I realized was that I was decelerating rapidly and then I realized the guy was turning in front of me. I didn't hit him and have puzzled over the reaction before thought since then.milo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #13 April 24, 2002 Milo.....that's moved outside my fund of instant knowledge.....I'll think on it after I get through with this next biochem exam that I'm in the middle of preparing for right now.... And I'll let you know l what I come up with. That piques my interest too....Lindseysome days it's just not worth gnawing through the strapshttp://home.earthlink.net/~linzwalley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #14 April 24, 2002 Quotebut you can speak faster than your brain can process.....--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Hmmm... I believe I've proven that one repeatedly in the past! Unfortunately, i think i've proven that too. "Do whatever you like, just untie me when you're done" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumperpaula 0 #15 April 24, 2002 Quote I didn't hit him and have puzzled over the reaction before thought since then... commonly refered to at my drop zone by a load organizer as the "rubber stopper theory". It's that instant before a BAD THING happens, when your brain says, "hey, somethings not right about this" and hopefully reacts for you before a bad outcome. It happens to you in skydiving all the time.Have you ever just had "That Feeling"...? Fly Your Slot ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyhawk 2 #16 April 24, 2002 you cant do anything without your brain making it happen for eg the car thing standing on a nail etc the brain is still recieving all the signals and proccesing them, it is extremely fast the thing that slows our actions down is thought i.e we decide to turn to go around a car we think about it is it safe, are there cars coming what is happening ahead behind etc, however if the car ahead slams on its breaks your body does what it was designed for and reactes instantanly for selfpreservationpoint your brain controls everything :)Opinions are like a-holes everyone has one, the only one that does you any good is yours and all that comes out is shit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scratch 0 #17 April 24, 2002 Quoteif you could think, speak, or perform an action faster than your brain could aknowledge it??Ooooooooooh yes, that you can.Quote?? What would be controlling that action or thought process? Personally I blame it on the devil.......or the demon rumEvery day above ground is a good day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottbre 0 #18 April 24, 2002 Quotewe all mastered this feat of speaking with out the use of our brainSeems to me that there are people who already do this... 200 feet of Saran Wrap and noone to play with. . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #19 April 24, 2002 QuoteI've always kinda wondered this (and even tried it with NO success) but what if you could think, speak, or perform an action faster than your brain could aknowledge it?? What would be controlling that action or thought process? Would you even need your body at that point........any Ideas or theories......(I know Quade could come up with something good!!) ....I'm not sure, but I think a hardon would be a good example of this theory.Such an interesting monster with such an interesting hairdo.Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #20 April 24, 2002 Quote I'm not sure, but I think a hardon would be a good example of this theory I can explain that one .... it's all the boobies on the forums !!! Danger could be my middle name. But it's Paul. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #21 April 24, 2002 Skyhawk: nope...the brain does not control everything. Most of our reflex actions never go to the brain....and our brains only process the sensory stuff after the acting has happened. This semester is neuroscience.....I promise you, this info is pretty durn fresh.... For instance in a shortened version, the nail thing....small pain afferent fibers make direct connection with motor efferents in the spinal cord, which cause the motor reactions...some days it's just not worth gnawing through the strapshttp://home.earthlink.net/~linzwalley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites