royalskydiver 0 #1 July 6, 2004 You can also [email] me at [email protected] USPA needs to update their emblem from the round parachute and wings to the ram-air and wings. Draw it out on paper you'll see what I'm talking about. I know they're people that don't like change but this change would be for the better. Here's what I was thinking. USPA needs to change the round parachute to a Ram-Air, move the shield up into the suspension lines and have an eagle head with wings at the bottom where the old shield is now. This is 2004' not the 70's. We don't use rounds anymore. We are also "AMERICANS" that need our country bird as a symbol also!!!!!!!RoyalSkydiver Robert Hammond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #2 July 6, 2004 I kinda like the symbol the way it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #3 July 6, 2004 Who say's we don't use rounds anymore? I know a lot of people who still use round mains and reserves, me included!you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 137 #4 July 6, 2004 Quote royalskydiver... We are also "AMERICANS" and the USA are a kingdom, you should have a crown on the emblem too It is an emblem, not just a plain logo. It has history, and you need roots, even if we all aim to stay in the sky. And do a search, several people around here have recently purchased round parachutes.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BETO74 0 #5 July 6, 2004 If you been in the sport for 10 years you should know is been discussed plenty even in Parachutist magazine, conclusion : the logo stays as it is, do some forum search, maybe you can find it in all the parachute magazines you gather thru 10 years in sport.http://web.mac.com/ac057a/iWeb/AC057A/H0M3.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 4 #6 July 6, 2004 I prefer to maintain some history. I wouldn't update as you suggest, but I'd consider going to a logo that included daVinci's parachute. My real sense is to just stay with what we have though. Think of it as retro-chic. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #7 July 6, 2004 Changing a logo is a -big deal-. It is a huge risk to mess with a well established and historical logo. The current logo works, it's attractive, conveys a certain amount of strength and yes even nationalism and most importantly shows the historical origins of the organization.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #8 July 6, 2004 Is that the only concern you have about our sport? Take the energy it took to make this post and take someone to the DZ this weekend or maybe jump with a newbie for FREE.Call a friend you haven't seen at the DZ in a while. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benny 0 #9 July 7, 2004 While experienced skydivers know that ram-airs are by and far the most commonly used parachutes and most would prefer to jump them, the whuffo public still tends to associate skydiving activities with big round parachutes, their a cultural icon. So what, we know we fly something different, who cares? Never go to a DZ strip show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d604 0 #10 July 7, 2004 Changing a logo is a huge deal and expensive and time consuming. In order to change it you have to introduce it nice and slow that people don't even really notice the change. But changing a logo like USPA's is not a bad idea, I would like CSPA's logo change. Both logos are somewhat the same. Look at them what does it tell you? CSPA did a little brain storming session one day and those that were there were asked what is CSPA not. We're not: military, not using rounds (as much), not blah blah blah. And guess what that’s what our logo says; basically everything that we said CSPA is not was represented in the logo. And that’s what the non-skydiving public associates with skydiving. And if you look at USPA and USPA's logo I'm sure you might come to the same conclusion. But, anywho like I said before it's still a big pain to make the change. Sean Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chrisky 0 #11 July 7, 2004 Mexicans, Canadians, Brasilians, Argentinos are all "AMERICANS" too... Just south or middle, or further north americans... You're just a United states citizen... If you really think it makes a difference in people... Infinite diversity in infinite combinations!The mind is like a parachute - it only works once it's open. From the edge you just see more. ... Not every Swooper hooks & not every Hooker swoops ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisL 2 #12 July 7, 2004 Quote Infinite diversity in infinite combinations! Aaarrgghhh! A Trekkie! __ My mighty steed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steph2 0 #13 July 7, 2004 The British Parachute Association (BPA) changed its logo fairly recently. It used to be a guy in freefall with a bellymount reserve... Since this was considered too old fashioned, the round was removed. I much prefer the new logo Change is not always a bad thing Steph -x- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 613 #14 July 7, 2004 A CSPA employee tried to change the logo to include a ram-air canopy back in the 1980s. The Board of Directors fired his @ss! CSPA's logo is antiquated because it includes a canopy type that I last jumped 18 years ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DancingFlame 0 #15 July 8, 2004 QuoteCSPA's logo is antiquated because it includes a canopy type that I last jumped 18 years ago. Ha! Here, in Russia, for $16 only you make jump a round canopy I had some round jumps last year Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #16 July 8, 2004 QuoteChanging a logo is a -big deal-. It is a huge risk to mess with a well established and historical logo. The current logo works, it's attractive, conveys a certain amount of strength and yes even nationalism and most importantly shows the historical origins of the organization. I can't say I agree with you quade - but you might very well be very correct on this one issue. If it is so important for you (Royalskydiver) to change the emblem - Which I think would be a mistake - perhaps you could design a jumper with a ram air doing a flag jump with the USPA symbol on the flag.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #17 July 12, 2004 bah.. it is fine as is.. it also looks cool if you take an exacto and cut way all the blue.... dont like it? dont put it on your stuff...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleWill 1 #18 July 12, 2004 It seems like it's gonna take a lot of convincing to turn the USPA super tanker.There is a lot of stuff worth doing but then there is a lot of stuff worth doing instead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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