alanab 0 #1 August 24, 2004 does anyone know of any dropzones that let someone jump with a parent signature at the age of 16? please post if you know where! edit** i meant to add that she wants to do a tandem and she lives in long island! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #2 August 24, 2004 Goshen might.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFlyZ 0 #3 August 24, 2004 I know that Texas Skydiving Center allows this. Kris. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DShiznit 0 #4 August 24, 2004 There is also another one in Central Texas as well... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brains 2 #5 August 24, 2004 QuoteThere is also another one in Central Texas as well... Which one? I KNOW SSM doesn't. Never look down on someone, unless they are going down on you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alanab 0 #7 August 25, 2004 bump.... i gotta get this chick in the air! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #8 August 25, 2004 we do, but you'll have to travel to Switzerland...scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #9 August 25, 2004 Lodi in California might. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #10 August 25, 2004 oh ya sure just make sure her last name is mullins then you can have 800 jumps by the time your 13.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swooper120 0 #11 August 25, 2004 I think there may be a DZ in Maryland that does..or Delaware..someone near us in PA once called and mentioned they didnt want to drive to Maryland to skydive..Also, Canada is not to far away, I know there are DZs there that allow Under Age Tandems. -swooper120 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #12 August 25, 2004 Alana, the actual tandem master are not going to answer this. It's actually in the sims that tandem passengers MUST be the age of legal majority, which in most states is 18. Violating that could mean them losing their tandem rating. Look to the south, where a couple of states have a lower legal majority age. Besides that, the only way for it to happen is to become a serious DZ fly (for her), get well known at 1 dz, and get someone to sneak her up. But, by that time she'll probably be 18. It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BGill 0 #13 August 25, 2004 QuoteAlana, the actual tandem master are not going to answer this. It's actually in the sims that tandem passengers MUST be the age of legal majority, which in most states is 18. Violating that could mean them losing their tandem rating. taken from uspa.org Although it finished early at 1:15 Sunday afternoon, July 18, the second biannual meeting of the USPA Board of Directors, held near USPA Headquarters in Alexandria, Virginia, proved productive. Highlights include: -Former USPA National Director and world champion Al Krueger has been named for the 2003 USPA Lifetime Achievement Award. -The requirement for tandem jumpers to be at least age of legal majority was removed from the BSRs. Now all skydivers, regardless of type jump, must meet the same requirements: 18 years of age or 16 with notarized parental or guardian consent. I did my first tandem this way 3 years ago and have been confused as to how I was able to get away with this, but according to USPA's website this should no longer be an issue as long as both parents sign and notarize the waiver. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #14 August 25, 2004 Wow, didn't know that. Now dig up the makers requirements and let me know what you find. I'm betting the makers still say 18.It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #15 August 25, 2004 Relative Workshop (Vector/Sigma tandem) Quote11. Buyer agrees not to permit anyone under the age of majority for entering into contractual relationships, both in the state in which the Waiver is signed and also in the state in which the jump is to be made, to utilize the Tandem Parachute System for a parachute jump and/or a tandem parachute jump.It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BGill 0 #16 August 25, 2004 Damnit, ya beat me to it! Well with that being the case, how can the USPA say they're allowed to jump at 16 when the manufacturer specifically doesn't allow it? Also, I was looking on the Strong website and couldn't come up with anything cuz my pdf files won't open. Maybe they have a different policy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #17 August 25, 2004 The USPA is not a governing body. The manufacturers can set limits, but the USPA can actually only make suggestions. Granted many of these suggestions may make it to law eventually (FARs), but just having them in the BSRs means very little. As far as I know, every tandem maker requires the age of legal majority. Correct me if I'm wrong though.It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tspillers 0 #18 August 25, 2004 Quote Well with that being the case, how can the USPA say they're allowed to jump at 16 when the manufacturer specifically doesn't allow it? Basically, because USPA is not a legal issue agency on this matter. They regulate training. As far as trainging goes, what is the difference between 16 and 18? Most DZ's, like our's, doesn't allow 16 for any training method. You must be 18 to enter into a legal contract and the parent's can't sign away a minors rights. Also, in Texas at least, the state can take action for endangering a child if they are under 18 and they get hurt regardless of any paperwork. I have heard of some DZ's in the state that do it anyway, but we are not willing to take that risk. Basically, it is a waste of time having them fill out the paperwork. It is just like taking them without an assumption of risk agreement. Add to that, it would violate the agreement with Relative Workshop. That can carry a fine from RWS. I don't know that they have every tried to actually fine someone, but I am sure if that caused them a lawsuit, they would try to get their money back out it in every means available to them. Todd I am not totally useless, I can be used as a bad example. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #19 August 25, 2004 Jump Shack (Racer tandem) Quote7. Additionally, Buyer agrees that any jump that utilizes the parachute is considered a "tandem jump". Using the parachute outside the student tandem instructor training environment is considered a violation of federal law (FAA exemption No. 5448) Examples of violations: Demonstration jumps, stunt jumps, intentional water jumps, night jumps, canopy relative work jumps, jumping with any student less than 18 years of age and any tandem jump that takes place off of a designated drop zone. (These restrictions do not apply to military tandem applications). It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut 0 #20 August 25, 2004 idid a static line at canton air sports in aliance....... ohio isn't that fara drive ffrom new york.... ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
